TSP 9.5" Street/Strip converters- Lifetime warrantee!

[Jim Weise]

Due to positive feedback from my converter customers on the board here, I have had a number of calls lately, and folks talking here about our 9.5" converters.. so here's the story..

I have been working on this program with these converters for about 5 years now, and have come up with some great combos for our Buicks.




These 9.5" converters were developed in customer and shop cars.. fit TH350 and TH 400 transmissions, and I get some very good prices on them, below wholesale, for these very high quality units.. they are built as well, or in some cases better than the "big name" companies. For a whole lot less money.. Of course everything is furnace brazed, full roller bearings, those of you who have worked with me in the past or seen my work, know that I have nothing to do with sub par quality parts.

A whole bunch of users here run our STG 1 9.5". This is the converter that helped Alan Wander get his 4000 lbs 69 convert into the 11's. Do a search on the board, you will find his feedback on it. Our most popular fixed pitch converter.Wholesale on this converter is $527.14, our price is $465.00. Stall speed is 2500 to 4000 rpm, depending on your desires and combo.

Several fellow board members have our STG 2 9.5" unit (stronger stator for 600+HP and or a heavy car.. Wholesale cost on that unit is $698.50, our cost is $606.00 Stall 3000 to 5500, to fit your needs.

George Sweesy runs our Bulletproof STG 3 converter, in his 850+ HP tube chassis car, which has run numerous 1.20 60' times, which is really quick for a 3200 lbs car..This converter has all the strongest parts available, including a forged cover (back half of the converter that bolts to the flywheel).
This unit wholesales for $985, our price is $889.00 Stall 4000 to 5500 to fit your combo. Trans Brake OK with this unit.

The secret to a good Buick converter is understanding the torque of the engine.. and since we build and dyno dozens of SB and BB Buick's of all types, I can estimate your power accurately, and direct the build accordingly to fit your needs. From Stock, to Procharged, to dual tunnel ram strokers, we have built and dynoed them, and have the numbers on hand.


All my converters can be sent back, and changed to any stall speed you wish, or changed from a STG 1 to STG 2 or 3, or simply re-stalled to fit your combo as it evolves. Cost is $125 labor, plus any parts you may wish to upgrade.

As far as durability..

Including the VP stuff, we have sold hundreds of converters over the last 9 years, and I have yet to ever have one fail.

Not one

So if you use one of my converters in the application that you originally bought it for, and it fails, I will repair/replace it.. for life at no charge.

Thx

JW

[sailbrd]

Wish you did this for 200r4's.

[killrbuick66455]

Hey Jim, I was wondering if you can change the amount of slippage of the convertor for better MPH,I feel that my convertor is to loose up on the top end but i get great 60 foot times. Im interested in a stage 2 3500 converter. it Also needs to handle a trans brake .

[Jim Weise]

Wish you did this for 200r4's.


Let me check, I bet I can..

JW

[Jim Weise]

Hey Jim, I was wondering if you can change the amount of slippage of the convertor for better MPH,I feel that my convertor is to loose up on the top end but i get great 60 foot times. Im interested in a stage 2 3500 converter. it Also needs to handle a trans brake .

Sure, no problem.. shoot me a PM with your specs, and your specific issues with your current converter..

JW

[RG67BEAST]

I've been in 2 cars with a 9.5 conv. of an other well respected brand. One with a 455 Pontiac (whoes tried all kinds of 10") and the other a 340 Mopar. The Pontiac stalls at 3600 and the mopar 3300. In both these cars you can't even tell there is a stall in them untill you nail it. Do these convertors work like that if used on the street if the convertor is set up for 3000-3500 stall?
Ray

[pro tour gsx]

I've been in 2 cars with a 9.5 conv. of an other well respected brand. One with a 455 Pontiac (whoes tried all kinds of 10") and the other a 340 Mopar. The Pontiac stalls at 3600 and the mopar 3300. In both these cars you can't even tell there is a stall in them untill you nail it. Do these convertors work like that if used on the street if the convertor is set up for 3000-3500 stall?
Ray

i have one of these converters from jw and its hard to tell theres a 3000 stall just driving around. but when you nail it man hold on. all that said im pleased

[Jim Weise]

I've been in 2 cars with a 9.5 conv. of an other well respected brand. One with a 455 Pontiac (whose tried all kinds of 10") and the other a 340 Mopar. The Pontiac stalls at 3600 and the mopar 3300. In both these cars you can't even tell there is a stall in them untill you nail it. Do these convertors work like that if used on the street if the convertor is set up for 3000-3500 stall?
Ray


Yes..

I was skeptical of a 9.5" unit, when we first started on these, but Dick, the owner of the very large Converter re-manufacturer that does my stuff, talked me into one.

In your typical 500 HP iron head GS, with 3.42 gears, I wouldn't have believed it was a 9.5" converter, except for the fact that I put it in.. They have no "slippery feel" under light load driving conditions.

That's the beauty of the small converter.. You don't have to have aggressive fin angles, and big tip clearances to get them to stall.. the stall is very much of a function of the diameter of the converter. Also, the reduction in weight is incredible, our Stage 1 and 2 9.5" converters weight in at 27 lbs, easily 3 lbs lighter than the typical 10", and the stock 12" GM converter is 37lbs.. add much more fluid to the bigger converter, and it's just that much more of a difference.

In fact, going back to the very first one we did, I had to take it out and have it loosened up.. that cured my concern for them being too loose or inefficient for street use.. After they changed the stator to re-stall the converter, it didn't really "feel" any different under normal driving. There was a slight difference, but it was an advantage, because it did a better job of soaking up the cam pulses (290-08H) at idle in gear. Very similar to one of my 12" VP converters, in high stall..



JW

[Jim Weise]

Wish you did this for 200r4's.


Checked on that for you today.. Had to stop down to pick up a fellow board member's VP converter they had just finished up..

Two different options or the 200R4

2500-2700 stall lockup

Got the run down on it:
Based on the Stock D-5 GM 2000 stall 27 spline converter with the following mods.

- Re-stalled to 2500-2700 rpm, behind the typical warmed over BBB.
- Fully furnace brazed
- Steel Turbine Hub
- Carbon Metallic clutch lining
- HD Damper spring assembly
- Lifetime warrantee

This would be the typical converter for most of you guys running around with a GS with the 200-4R.

Cost: $329.00

Beyond that, we can get you into a 27 Spline 10" unit, with a special Carbon fiber lockup clutch for more durablity if your doing full throttle lockup stuff (racing), and all the mods above. Those converters are custom built to your combo and stall speed requirements.

Cost: $595.00


JW

[64 Hardtop]

Hi, I'm new to the scene. I need a new converter for my new engine build. Any help?

[Jim Weise]

Sure,

PM me your buildup details, or send them via email at jim@trishieldperf.com

Thx

JW

[jarrett]

Would one of your 9.5" converters work in my 5000LB 1970 4x4 behind a 690LB, 660HP 505BB chevy. I have had nothing but trouble with torque converters with this truck. I seem to blow through every converter under 12" that I try. I can stall A factory 12'' TH350 converter to 2800+ rpm but they are heavy, and don't multiply any torque, then they shell out. I spent 850.00 on a custom continental 11'' that was supposed to go 3200RPM. It launched good but I lost 5MPH, and .3 with it. When I hit 2nd @6000 the rpm only drops to 5500RPM:af: . My peak torque is @3900RPM. Im now running a 258mm pro yank SC converter rated for 1400HP. It locks up on top but will only flash 23-2500RPM. Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to see what you thought. Thanks, J

[Jim Weise]

Would one of your 9.5" converters work in my 5000LB 1970 4x4 behind a 690LB, 660HP 505BB chevy. I have had nothing but trouble with torque converters with this truck. I seem to blow through every converter under 12" that I try. I can stall A factory 12'' TH350 converter to 2800+ rpm but they are heavy, and don't multiply any torque, then they shell out. I spent 850.00 on a custom continental 11'' that was supposed to go 3200RPM. It launched good but I lost 5MPH, and .3 with it. When I hit 2nd @6000 the rpm only drops to 5500RPM:af: . My peak torque is @3900RPM. Im now running a 258mm pro yank SC converter rated for 1400HP. It locks up on top but will only flash 23-2500RPM. Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to see what you thought. Thanks, J


I would hate to tell you to throw out a $900 converter... have you talked to them, to see if they can change the stator to get a bit more stall out of it for you?

JW

[Da Torquester.]

Hi Jim, sorry if this might of been asked earlier, is one of these 9.5 in. converters available in a switch pitch application ? Right now I'm using a 12" J&W performance converter and I'm not really sure of it's reliability. Thank you, John Biggs.

[Jim Weise]

No John, it's a fixed pitch converter.

If you have a 12" VP now, that's the core I need to build one of mine, and you won't break it..

JW

[jarrett]

I would hate to tell you to throw out a $900 converter... have you talked to them, to see if they can change the stator to get a bit more stall out of it for you?

JWHe said they can raise the stall but the shift extention will go up. Right now with a 6000RPM shift point the RPM falls down to about 4500RPM which is just right, locks up really well on the top end. When I first had the converter built it flashed 3000-3200 but I would only drop to about 5000-5200RPM on the shift's, and wouldn't lock up on the top end. Thanks, J

[WE1]

Hi Jim:

I'm still running a factory GM switch pitch converter (12") with 4.33 gears at a race weight of 3885 lbs.
With the DOT's, full exhaust and 91 octane pump gas the car has run a best of 10.96 @ 124.55 mph with a 1.57 60'. Its tough to try to compromise and keep it a dual purpose car with plenty of street driving. But I'd like to see what this combo is capable of. No dyno time so any hp/tq figures are merely a guess on my part. Would you mind looking over my combination if I email you the specs and see what might be available?

[Jim Weise]

Dave,

Glad to look it over for you, and I would say it's a sure be that if we reworked that 12" VP we could pick up some time for you. What's it stalling at now with the stock converter?

email is jim@trishieldperf.com

JW

[Jim Weise]

He said they can raise the stall but the shift extention will go up. Right now with a 6000RPM shift point the RPM falls down to about 4500RPM which is just right, locks up really well on the top end. When I first had the converter built it flashed 3000-3200 but I would only drop to about 5000-5200RPM on the shift's, and wouldn't lock up on the top end. Thanks, J

Yup, that's the deal for sure.. I would be hesitant to say that I could improve dramatically over what you have. They have it set up pretty tight right now and I would have to say that if we cut your current converter, and took a look at it, we might be able to either improve that one, or build a new one for you, but I would be foolish to tell you I can send you something out of the box for this application and be confident it will be what your after.. really dependant on what exactly you have now..

Be glad to give you a second opinion on it, if you wish.

JW

[Gary Bohannon]

Jim,

My 67 runs mid 12's and 60' is 1.75 at best with a 3.42 gear.

How much differance in ET and 60' would we expect if I:
1.Let you rebuild/modify my old KB 12" s/p converter.
2.Swap my old 12" s/p for your 9.5" converter.
Thanks, Gary B.

[69GS400s]

A whole bunch of users here run our STG 1 9.5". This is the converter that helped Alan Wander get his 4000 lbs 69 convert into the 11's. Do a search on the board, you will find his feedback on it. Our most popular fixed pitch converter.Wholesale on this converter is $527.14, our price is $465.00. Stall speed is 2500 to 4000 rpm, depending on your desires and combo.


JW


...did it for you JW :beers2:

http://v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=136760

I had BigRed out on Sunday after not driving it since before christmas (a looonnngggg time for me even during winter) - puttered around town a bit and when I finally hammered it, I uttered those same words as the first time driving it after the install

:eek2: HOLY S#!T !!!!! :eek2:

Guys - this one should be a no-brainer. You're getting a quality TC for about half the price of a Big Name company ... JW has done the homework to make sure it is optimized for our barges ... AND you get a lifetime warantee !!

[Jim Weise]

Jim,

My 67 runs mid 12's and 60' is 1.75 at best with a 3.42 gear.

How much differance in ET and 60' would we expect if I:
1.Let you rebuild/modify my old KB 12" s/p converter.
2.Swap my old 12" s/p for your 9.5" converter.
Thanks, Gary B.

Gary,

If your KB converter works like mine did, then what we do is basically what they did years ago. After they quit doing them, there was not place to get a VP converter, with the mod package that KB had back then, and that's what we do to them now. We stall them a little more, but not much.. what is yours stalling to now.

As far as the 9.5" unit, I would need more info on your combo. carb, cam, ect.

JW

[Jim Weise]

...did it for you JW :beers2:

http://v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=136760

I had BigRed out on Sunday after not driving it since before christmas (a looonnngggg time for me even during winter) - puttered around town a bit and when I finally hammered it, I uttered those same words as the first time driving it after the install

:eek2: HOLY S#!T !!!!! :eek2:

Guys - this one should be a no-brainer. You're getting a quality TC for about half the price of a Big Name company ... JW has done the homework to make sure it is optimized for our barges ... AND you get a lifetime warantee !!

Thanks Alan!

JW

[Gary Bohannon]

Jim,
My 67 usually runs 12.40's at 107-108
The old KB switch pitch gets 1.8 60ft, ... best 1.76, 12.36, at 108 mph
My efficiency calculations say a good converter will get 12.20's at 108 mph
and the mph should improve as well.
But the question stated above was
1. could my s/p be improved
2. How much would a 9.5" help
I have a 455, ported st.1 heads,b4b,800 Q-jet, c118 cam, sp3000/2000,th 400 trans., 3.42 rear, 3800 lb chassis.
thanks, Gary B

[Jim Weise]

Gary,

If your VP converter is 20+ years old, there is a good chance that we could improve the efficiency of it, depending on how the fin tip clearances were set to begin with, and what kind of wear the unit has. Also, we would look at the stator vane angles, to insure that they are optimum.

I am assuming you have the KB 149 12" VP converter. If for some reason you have the 13" unit, then we certainly could improve your times with the smaller converter.

What stall speed does it seem to flash to now?

In going to a 9.5" converter, I would venture to guess that you would see a tenth or two over the best you can get from a VP converter, if for no other reason that the 10 lbs reduction in rotating weight. This simply allows the engine to rev faster thru the gears. Further, we could get some more out of it, if in fact we set up a converter that was more oriented for the track than the street, I know that 118 cam likes to get above 3000 rpm to produce the best times. Of course exact ET improvements would be absolutely dependent on the ability of the car to get ahold of the pavement. If we can get that 60' time down into the 1.6's, I can see some low 12's out of the car, with the right air and traction. Depending on where that cam is degreed in, I would say a 3000-3500 stall converter would optimize your 60' time, and the smaller converter will be more efficient down track.

And of course you would have to change the front pump for the fixed pitch converter. I can supply everything you need for the conversion.


But ultimately, I can only speculate on et improvements, until we cut your current converter, and see what you really have. As you probably know, there are a number of factors that control et and mph ability, and your getting close to the limits of stock fuel pumps and lines. I have been drag racing long enough to know that it would be unwise for me to sit here and spit out specific et gains, that would be more advertising jargon, than anything, but we certainly would like to work with you to help you optimize what you have now.

Thx

JW

[Gary Bohannon]

jim,

It's a KB 149, 3000 stall, built in the mid 1980's.

My guess is that my 60 ft would gain a tenth and grow to 1-2 tenths & mph, in a quarter.
I would like to hear from someone who has done a straight swap from s/p to a good fixed.

[flynbuick]

I have one of JW's units like Alan's. On the first test run after install the car scared the trans shop owner so bad he had another trans guy in the shop take it for the second test run. Then the second guy came back and says he was throwing all his small block Chevy and Ford stuff in the trash and that he never believed a convertible could be so quick.

[quickstage1]

Jim,
Are you still selling these converters? I'm looking to replace my VP converter with a fixed converter in my '70 Skylark. I was running 11.18 @ 122mph with the VP before it broke on me. I'm guessing I'll need your Stage2 converter with around 4200 stall. I can PM you all of my specs if you are still offering these converters.

Thanks,
Ken

[whamo]

I just installed one of the Stage2 9.5" converters in my car. I havent made it out to the track yet, but driving it on the street has been great. Mine is set up for 3500 stall though.

What is your setup? Engine, gears and racing weight? Just curious.

[quickstage1]

Sounds like he has another happy customer. My car has an 11 to 1 464, ported stage1 iron heads flowing 280 and roller rockers. Ported T/A intake with Proform 950cfm carb. Solid lift cam, 276-282 duration, .600-.594 lift. My vp converter was flashing to 4200 and I have 3.73 gears. 28x12.5 ET Streets. I don't know the weight of the car but have lowered the weight alittle with a 'glass hood and front bumper and racing seats. I usually had mid 1.6 60' times and the car usually hooks pretty good.

Ken

[Chris Cornett]

I have 1 of Jim's convertors in my 70 GS455 and it works real nice. I have a KB118 cam and stage 1 heads on the car. It behaves like a larger diameter convertor would. I would recommend this convertor to anyone with a mild street engine.

[Cali72's]

Hello my name is russell and I recentley rebuilted my th-350 with the b&m transkit at school and I didnt have enough money for a good torque converter so I am snooping around for a new one. I also rebuilt the engine it is a 350 I bought a rebuild kit from a local machine shop and put the comp 268h kit in it also and and did a 3 angle valve job on the heads and some mild porting to them with my shop teacher. I currentley have a stock rear end and I am looking to put 3.73 in the rear. So to make a long story short I was wondering if you could make me a tourque converter and how much would it cost thanks for the help sorry for the long post.:beer

[Dave Hanlon]

got a 3500 converter from tsp very very happy with it blew away my switch pitch set up I had in the car nice and tight for cruising and worked flawlessly on the track . Jim was right on with my motor drivetrain/combo .propeled my 4000# gs to 11:20 @121 .:TU: :TU: :TU:

[Da Torquester.]

No John, it's a fixed pitch converter.

If you have a 12" VP now, that's the core I need to build one of mine, and you won't break it..

JW

Hey Jim, was wanting to know if you still need a 12" core ? I was wanting to get my V/P converter tailored a little better to my combination. Thanks, John Biggs.

[Jim Weise]

John,

I do have a couple of virgin 12" VP cores now..

JW

[white72gs455]

Hi Jim,
I see the price in 2008 for the stg 1 9.5, are they the same today or are there any changes?
I have a mild buid 455 th4oo 3:42, Just wondering.
Thanks!
Jerry

[Nothingface5384]

i'll be also possibly looking for a fixed stall..stage 2 for now as you sad they can be upgraded later on for under 200! I want a good stall but nothing where it'd heat up the trans in the city and make driving miserable
72 skylark with stock 350 but with twinturbos, 3.08 gears and a/c removed i'm sure i'm under 3800 with me in it

[AlaskaBuick]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents here. I have had one of Jims 9.5" 4000 stall in my Stage 2 sport wagon for years and could not be happier. Beat the dog poo out of it in that heavy car and it never fails to impress me. Drives like a normal converter until you nail it. Flairs right up and lays it out.

I was breaking converters for years until I got this.

Dennis

[bostongsx]

whats the availability of the 2004r converters Jim

[Jim Weise]

Tell me about your setup, and how you want to use the car Herb.

There are a number of 2004R converters available.

JW

[bostongsx]

Jim I need 2 converters

My car still has the 350 trans but I have a built gn tranny ready to go in. It is a 69 350 2bbl skylark convert that I converted to 4bbl with a ta intake and 350 rochester carb. I also added a 3.42 posi. Other than that it is pretty much stock.

My buddies car is a 72 lark with 455. It has a small ta cam, stage 1 heads with mild port work, ta shorty headers, 850 quadrajet and has a jim burek 200r4 and converter that was set up for his old 350 motor. His car needs some stall as it wont get out of the gate which surprises me because the converter in the car now is set up for his old 350

[Jim Weise]

I just installed a strengthened/modified D-5 converter behind a 400 in a 68 GS.. love it, replaced a standard D-5, and it was a world of difference. Has a special stator modification that gives them more stall.

That's the one I would suggest for you BB buddy, for yours, I will ask my converter guy tomorrow if he would do any other mods to it.. what kind of stall speeds are you after on the 350 car?

I will PM you on Monday with the info.

JW

[bostongsx]

I would think 25-2800 its a heavy car and the 350 is pretty tame, I just want it to come off the line a little better.
Thanks
Herb

[Jim Weise]

Herb,

Two options for you on the 2004-R.

A modified D-5, just like I put in that GS400 here recently. It's a very nice converter that has a "windowed" stator, for another 300-500 rpm or so more stall than the stock unit. Just right for soaking up a little cam lope, and a decent flash when you nail it. We went from a stock D-5 to this one in that car, and the difference was night and day. Exactly what we were looking for, on that 400 HP car, with a 118 cam.

For a car that your going to drive a lot on the street, and all around manners are most important, and want that good "feel" in moderate acceleration, it's a nice unit.

Not the highest performance option, as the stall-torque ratio is around 1.4 on that unit.

Cost is $299+shipping.

For a more performance oriented deal, where getting to the next stoplight is the prime consideration, then we move to the 10" unit. A much higher 1.9 stall torque ratio, and 20 lbs less weight will really make things happen a lot quicker.. downside is that this one does not have as positive a "feel" in light throttle work. Not mushy by any means, but it does have a more performance oriented "feel".

Cost is $379+ship on that unit.

Thanks

JW

[Smartin]

Anyone interested in using one of these convertors should pull the trigger. I got mine installed today, and it's completely night and day compared to the old one I had in there. It's no longer a slushbox around town. I can feel the shifts again:laugh: Thanks, Jim, for the excellent product. I can't wait to get it to Columbus!

[R4E5G5L]

The last post here was over a year ago. Are you still selling these? What is the expected build time? Updated price on the stage one?

Not ready yet, still saving up.

Thanks Jim,

[mazzy70]

Yes, I am pretty sure Jim is still doing these. I contacted him yesterday on a converter for the Electra. Pm'd me next day on what he can do and price.

[Jim Weise]

The last post here was over a year ago. Are you still selling these? What is the expected build time? Updated price on the stage one?

Not ready yet, still saving up.

Thanks Jim,

Ya, they were going out of here like crazy earlier this spring.. Right now we are looking at 7-10 days on the build, price on the STG 1 9.5 is $499.

Thanks

JW

[R4E5G5L]

[/COLOR]
The last post here was over a year ago. Are you still selling these? What is the expected build time? Updated price on the stage one?

Not ready yet, still saving up.

Thanks Jim,

Well guys I finally put enough scratch together and ordered a stage1 verter a few days ago! Will the tabs have welded nuts like factory? If not, which summit part number do I need for hardware?

Thanks,

[R4E5G5L]

I really don't want to bug Jim with such a trivial question. Any thoughts on the hardware? (above post)

Thanks,

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I really don't want to bug Jim with such a trivial question. Any thoughts on the hardware? (above post)

Thanks,

[Jim Weise]

Steve,

Hardware is included with the converter.. no worries.

JW

[1967BuickGS400]

I am looking for a stage 1 3000 stall. How much are they? Thanks Josh.

[Jim Weise]

The Stg 1 9.5" is 499+ shipping.

JW

[R4E5G5L]

WOW, stage 1 compared to stock Riviera
225653

I can't wait to get it in!


**UPDATE**

Just got back from our shake down run and the car is just plain nasty now. Drag radials are now worthless :) need to look for some wrinkle wall street tires. Might be an issue on the top end it's too early to report. 60mph cruise is same rpm as it was with the stock 13 inch.

Thanks!

[Ken Mild]

Jim,

Do you rebuild stock converters? I have a vibration I have been putting off trouble shooting. I need to start with the clutch fan and work back from there. If it ends up being my converter (which is stock) would you consider rebuilding it with a slightly higher than stock stall? If so, what would the cost be? How long would it take? I can give engine and drivetrain specs as needed as best I can. I'm not sure what the stock stall was for my car with the original 400ci setup from the factory with the TH400, but that's the coverter I still use with 3.08 gears and a shift improver kit. I may upgrade to 3.55 and a posi this year, if that would make a difference.

Thanks,

Ken

[Ken Mild]

ttt

[Jim Weise]

Ken,

Sure, we could rebuild your converter, but I guess my question would be why?... it would be a lot simpler just to buy the STG 1 12" I sell, that stalls about 16-1800... cost on that one is $289. It is a perfect "stock replacement" converter for a GS BB car. It's "just a little more" than the stocker, which stalled at about 13-1400.. still plenty tight for street driving.

Those we typically have in stock. I would have to check my guys inventory tho..

JW

[David G]

Jim, that sounds like a good choice to add to the TH350 we discussed?

[Ken Mild]

Ken,

Sure, we could rebuild your converter, but I guess my question would be why?... it would be a lot simpler just to buy the STG 1 12" I sell, that stalls about 16-1800... cost on that one is $289. It is a perfect "stock replacement" converter for a GS BB car. It's "just a little more" than the stocker, which stalled at about 13-1400.. still plenty tight for street driving.

Those we typically have in stock. I would have to check my guys inventory tho..

JW

Jim, Awesome, thanks for that recommendation. This will be the one I purchase when it's time then. :beers2: