clutch rod adjuster bushing

[69gsconv4spd]

Anybody know where I can get one? Preferably locally.
Thanks

[buick64203]

Locally I would say no, but Dave Kleiner has them. From the parts book, it looks like the bushing didnt come seperately from the clevis.

let me know if you need his info. I just ordered a new pushrod and fork for my car.

[69gsconv4spd]

Jason,
I have Daves info. Looks like I'll be giving him a call.
Thanks

[flynbuick]

If it is the one I am thinking of it is the same as an old Vette.

[David Hemker]

Actually yes you can get them from your local chevy dealer. It is the same as a corvette suspension bushing. Mike Garrison listed the part number in a thread here a while back. I can get mine out of the car and get the number tomorrow as I haven't installed it yet.

[buick64203]

Are we talking about the same bushing? I thought the one that is the same as the Vettes is the Z bar bushing? Or does the clevis use the same one?:confused:

[David Hemker]

I believe the bushing will fit both locations.It appears to be the same bushing when I compared it to both the z-bar and the adjuster rod.

[BadBrad]

I believe the bushing will fit both locations.It appears to be the same bushing when I compared it to both the z-bar and the adjuster rod.

Yes.

[69gsconv4spd]

[QUOTE=BOP 4 Speed;1151620]Bushing GM # 3872955[/QUOTE
Perfect, thanks. Now if only the parts departments were open on Saturdays.
Matt

[Paul Massicotte]

Or go to NAPA and get a spherical rod end from thier tractor catalog (PN 732-1129 I believe).

It's 3/8 fine thread female.

Then get an exhaust manifold stud that's 3/8 fine to coarse thread and adjust into the spherical rod end.

It's a lot stronger than the bushing style. I wore out the Kleiner repop one in about a month.

[buick64203]

I wore out the Kleiner repop one in about a month.

Im not surprised. Your like the Samsonite gorilla when it comes to clutch parts! :laugh:

[Paul Massicotte]

Im not surprised. Your like the Samsonite gorilla when it comes to clutch parts! :laugh:


This is true.

[MPRY1]

Or go to NAPA and get a spherical rod end from thier tractor catalog (PN 732-1121 I believe).

It's 3/8 fine thread female.

Then get an exhaust manifold stud that's 3/8 fine to coarse thread and adjust into the spherical rod end.

It's a lot stronger than the bushing style. I wore out the Kleiner repop one in about a month.

Much better solution, better pedal feel as well. Thats pretty much how I did it, except I ended up getting a 5" length fine thread grade 8 bolt, cutting the head off and threading the shaft in 3/8 course. Never thought about manifold studs. that makes it almost to easy. :Dou: :TU:

[69gsconv4spd]

Or go to NAPA and get a spherical rod end from thier tractor catalog (PN 732-1121 I believe).

It's 3/8 fine thread female.

Then get an exhaust manifold stud that's 3/8 fine to coarse thread and adjust into the spherical rod end.

It's a lot stronger than the bushing style. I wore out the Kleiner repop one in about a month.
Paul,
Great tip! Marketable difference in pedal feel, easier to adjust and alot stronger.
Actual part number is 732-1129 and the stud is ST-43.
Thanks again
Matt

[BadBrad]

Killer tips guys.

Somebody else is looking for $48 for their solution - OUCH!:rolleyes:

I'm all for making a buck but hokey bejebus.

[Paul Massicotte]

Paul,
Great tip! Marketable difference in pedal feel, easier to adjust and alot stronger.
Actual part number is 732-1129 and the stud is ST-43.
Thanks again
Matt

Not a problem. Mike Prybell actually owns the idea. He did it back in 04 and put a pic on the board. I went off of his idea and tweaked it.

[69gsconv4spd]

Then thanks to Mike too:beer ! Hey I just spent a gazzillion dollars on my new motor, gotta cut the budget somehow.

[MPRY1]

Thanks all, but...

I don't think I invented the idea alone because back when we were all scratching our heads a few of us came out with the same design more or less by coincidence.

In any event, swapping over to this design improves pedal feel, increases adjustability and eliminates the big weakness in the design, which is the crappy rubber bushing. :laugh:

[72staged]

Mike P,
It mentioned above that you may have had a picture of the assembly. If so, would you mind re-posting it here? There are several of us that are interested in the design.

Thanks, Mike

[RACEBUICKS]

To make life easier around here I bought 50 or so of those GM bushings. I had several guys fixing 4 speed cars around this area. If anyone cant find any let me know. I have plenty. email me

[MPRY1]

Mike P,
It mentioned above that you may have had a picture of the assembly. If so, would you mind re-posting it here? There are several of us that are interested in the design.

Thanks, Mike


Heres the link to the original thread. With picture goodness.

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=78177&highlight=clutch+rod

[Paul Massicotte]

Mike P,
It mentioned above that you may have had a picture of the assembly. If so, would you mind re-posting it here? There are several of us that are interested in the design.

Thanks, Mike

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Sorry the spring is in the way but it gets the idea across.

[SP4SPD]

Here is a pic of my set up. Mike P and I seemed to hit on the same idea @ the same time :idea2: .

[buick64203]

Is that a Kleiner fork? Looks like it

[72staged]

Thanks guys, I went to NAPA yesterday and picked up the sperical rod end and the stud. I believe it is a better setup. If you notice on Phils's pic, the knuckle of the rod end has full 360 degree rotation. The rubber style has no movement like that which seems to create a slight binding situation. That may account for a better pedal feel? The only thing I had to do otherwise is make an extension for the rod bolt as the 2.75" was not long enough to disengage my clutch. In my case, I needed a push rod bolt about 3.25" long.
Great thread, Great info! Thanks, Mike

[MPRY1]

I noticed on my car, with the factory setup the bushing was always in a state of bind. The binding increased when the clutch was disengaged (pedal depressed) This is because the rod doesn't move in a true straight line. Having a spherical end allows for movement on 2 planes instead of just the one so binding of any kind is eliminated.

Is the Kliener fork any different then the factory one? I need to buy a new fork when I replace my clutch this spring.

[MPRY1]

Here is a pic of my set up. Mike P and I seemed to hit on the same idea @ the same time :idea2: .

Scott I remember that. Weren't you going to try a modified Pontiac setup at one point, or am I confusing you with someone else?

[BadBrad]

Thanks guys, I went to NAPA yesterday and picked up the sperical rod end and the stud. I believe it is a better setup. If you notice on Phils's pic, the knuckle of the rod end has full 360 degree rotation. The rubber style has no movement like that which seems to create a slight binding situation. That may account for a better pedal feel? The only thing I had to do otherwise is make an extension for the rod bolt as the 2.75" was not long enough to disengage my clutch. In my case, I needed a push rod bolt about 3.25" long.
Great thread, Great info! Thanks, Mike

My rod end arrives today. When I chase down a stud what do I look for? Sounds like there is a specific stud to get from NAPA. I looked for that ST-43 on the NAPA website and found nothing.

[MPRY1]

My rod end arrives today. When I chase down a stud what do I look for? Sounds like there is a specific stud to get from NAPA. I looked for that ST-43 on the NAPA website and found nothing.

Your looking for a 3/8th manifold stud. It will have course theads on one end and fine on the other.

[SP4SPD]

Is that a Kleiner fork? Looks like it

Yeah Its a repop, I took my original one and put it away, It needs a new spring clip put on it. Maybe I wll get ambitious and put one on next winter.:rolleyes:
56 degress here today...makes me look forward to :3gears: soon!

[SP4SPD]

Scott I remember that. Weren't you going to try a modified Pontiac setup at one point, or am I confusing you with someone else?

Mike
I still have the part but I havent tried it yet. I might try it this spring for a test. I need to pull the motor out to replace my oil pan gasket. Hope to get going on that soon. Pic attached of the other piece I am going to try. Pontiac end cut down and a nut welded on. You could get one of the male heim joints and thread it into the end assuming you have the correct threads.

[Todd69GS]

:
56 degress here today...makes me look forward to :3gears: soon!

Keep dreamin. We are going to be shoveling again tomorrow.:Dou:
Man I hate winter.

[SP4SPD]

Keep dreamin. We are going to be shoveling again tomorrow.:Dou:
Man I hate winter.

Thanks for the reality check Todd!!:spank: