oil Filter clearance

[Donks82]

What options(clearance) do I have when it comes to the oil filter on a Buick 455 in a G-body? All you regal guys know what I'm talking about if you have a 455 in a regal. I have the same problem with my cutlass. So what can I do about the problem?

[carcrazy455]

You can use a V6 metric pump cover. It has a slightly different angle then the SAE (inch) cover and you should use the bigger 52 filter and not the 47 the book calls for.

Mike

[monkeyy337]

Are you saying you can't get the filter on/off? Both my Regal and my friends Regal (both 455 powered) are close but there is room to get on/off.

[Donks82]

Are you saying you can't get the filter on/off? Both my Regal and my friends Regal (both 455 powered) are close but there is room to get on/off.What type of filter are you using? I have a fram filter on there right now and it's going to be hell trying to get it off w/o taking the housing apart.

[monkeyy337]

What type of filter are you using? I have a fram filter on there right now and it's going to be hell trying to get it off w/o taking the housing apart. AC PF 24. I wonder if you didn't move you motor back as far as possible when you installed it in your Regal?

[Donks82]

AC PF 24. I wonder if you didn't move you motor back as far as possible when you installed it in your Regal?Well the engine is back as far as it could go w/o touching the firewall and the a/c box. The frame pads are all the way to the front on the frame and I still don't have enough room to take the oil filter off. I need to see if they have a shorter filter than that fram anyway. Everybody says fram filters are a piece of crap.

[monkeyy337]

Well the engine is back as far as it could go w/o touching the firewall and the a/c box. The frame pads are all the way to the front on the frame and I still don't have enough room to take the oil filter off. I need to see if they have a shorter filter than that fram anyway. Everybody says fram filters are a piece of crap.My frame pads are no where near the front of the frame, they are closer to the rear of the frame but I don't have a A/C box or for that matter the Regal as I sold it two weeks ago. What holes on the engine are your motor mounts bolted to, 2 & 4 or 1 & 3 (I'm going by memory now)? I had to go look it up but you should be using block holes 2 & 4 for the engine mounts to bolt to with #1 hole being the one closest to the front of the engine.

[brandotheamazin]

i have a wix filter number at work, it fits perfectly. i'll get it on monday for you.

[Donks82]

My frame pads are no where near the front of the frame, they are closer to the rear of the frame but I don't have a A/C box or for that matter the Regal as I sold it two weeks ago. What holes on the engine are your motor mounts bolted to, 2 & 4 or 1 & 3 (I'm going by memory now)? I had to go look it up but you should be using block holes 2 & 4 for the engine mounts to bolt to with #1 hole being the one closest to the front of the engine.I will have to look as I don't remember what holes I'm using.

[70sLark]

oil filter relocation kit

Often needed when a 455 is stuffed into a bread box ;)

[monkeyy337]

You never have said why you can't get the oil filter off. Is it because of the frame or the bolt that holds the idler arm?

[Bar50]

I think the reason the metic cover/end works better, besides filter size, if more of the angle it places the filter at. Pick up a booster plate while you got it off, besides they come with new metric bolts, and they are cheap.

A Cutlass was mentioned, is it sporting a Buick motor?

If its an Olds motor, look for an oil filter adapter from a T/A, or Toro, also at a different angle. Score the right exhaust manifold while you're there for true duals.

[Donks82]

You never have said why you can't get the oil filter off. Is it because of the frame or the bolt that holds the idler arm?It's the bolts that hold the idler arm.

[Donks82]

I think the reason the metic cover/end works better, besides filter size, if more of the angle it places the filter at. Pick up a booster plate while you got it off, besides they come with new metric bolts, and they are cheap.

A Cutlass was mentioned, is it sporting a Buick motor?

If its an Olds motor, look for an oil filter adapter from a T/A, or Toro, also at a different angle. Score the right exhaust manifold while you're there for true duals.Yes its an '82 cutlass supreme sporting a buick 455.

[monkeyy337]

It's the bolts that hold the idler arm.Another one of my friends had the same problem when he put a 455 Buick in a Pontiac "G" body car. He just cut off the portion of the bolt that protuded through the idler arm flush with the nut/nutplate. If you don't feel good about doing that then you could just back the bolt out to where it is flush with the nut/nutplate, change the filter, and tighten the bolt back up.

[ford2]

What options(clearance) do I have when it comes to the oil filter on a Buick 455 in a G-body? All you regal guys know what I'm talking about if you have a 455 in a regal. I have the same problem with my cutlass. So what can I do about the problem?

I had similar problem when converted to RHD,the oil filter was up against the steering box.
Simple solution was to go to short filter Ryco Z160.

Ford2.

[brandotheamazin]

WIX filter 51042, shorter fits perfectly without hitting frame or bolts :) if you want a different brand just have them cross reference it. good luck :)!

[Donks82]

WIX filter 51042, shorter fits perfectly without hitting frame or bolts :) if you want a different brand just have them cross reference it. good luck :)!Thanks, Is this the same filter you are using on your 455 with no problems? Is it basically the same filter just shorter cause I looked up that part # and it's for v-6 engines and a few v-8's

[brandotheamazin]

I have that filter on my 455 in an 83 regal. It works well. no pressure problems, just change it often, as with the oil.

[70sLark]

A smaller filter is ok I guess id just change it more and make sure that brand or style has a good bypass valve in it. Not all of them do. Id take some unfiltered oil over oil starved.

[Donks82]

I'm gonna try the wix filter out if I can find them in a local parts house. If not i'm gonna go with the napa gold. Well what's a good break in oil (size/weight) that I should use when breaking in a rebuilt engine?

[brandotheamazin]

ask about break in on the 455 page, or bench.... i used break in oil, and good quality motor oil. slathered the cam with the break in oil, but i'm an amateur when it comes to building engines, i had elder experience watching over me the whole way. Ask the other guys.

[Kerry s.]

It's the bolts that hold the idler arm.

Hi Guys,

I just turned the bolts around with the head of the bolts exposed and the problem was solved with the AC-24 filter. Do one bolt at a time and retorque. I did have pic's showing before and after but they were on my old computer....sorry.

[Kerry s.]

I'm gonna try the wix filter out if I can find them in a local parts house. If not i'm gonna go with the napa gold. Well what's a good break in oil (size/weight) that I should use when breaking in a rebuilt engine?

Either the Wix or Napa Gold are good filters but so is the AC-24. For break-in oil you should try the new Royal Purple Break-In Oil. If not, I've always used straight 30w, NOT a multi-viscosity detergent oil. There is more ACTUAL oil in straight weight oil for break-in purposes but they ALL lack sufficent amounts of phosphurous and zinc anymore so a quality race oil is the best bet for those essential additives. Even GM's EOS lacks high enough amounts anymore. You can also go with (and I would HIGHLY advise you to do so!) ZPPD. If a flat-tappet cam (aka...NON roller) then be sure to bring RPMs up to 2500-3000 for AT LEAST 20 minutes...30 even more prefered! Watch oil pressure and water temp and if either are not correct in either too little pressure or too high of temp shut off and find the problem rather than risk damage.

Another tip for you in case you do not already have one is to also get yourself a TA adjustable oil pressure regulator so that you can do just that! :TU:

[No Lift]

The NAPA 1042 is the same as the Wix filter and I've used it in all kinds of tight spots. It is the same size as the GN filters. It comes off a 1975 Skylark with V-6 and it was the only year they used that filter because it has the same SAE threads as the earlier engines, so there is no need to change pump covers, and the next year they went metric.
NAPA was going to get rid of it a few years ago but I think they said that some newer(?) cars started using it again.

[Jentz]

why not use a remote oil filter kit like the kits made by transdapt

[455regal]

I used a Canton remote set up. I think it was from a chevy LS1 engine It wasen't listed for a BBB but it worked!