Cruel Intentions

[buick46270]

Well, i have sold the old buick motor and have done away with the procharger and the twin turbo setups. So whats going in now? A chebby:eek2:! Its an iron block LS2 motor which is essentially a LQ9 truck motor.

Right now, just to get all the conversion stuff done it is going in the car completely stock except for it has been changed to use a cable operated throttle body instead of the electronic version, and the whole front serpentine system is gone, i am using an electric water pump and low mount alternator.

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Owner/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpghttp://www.gmperformanceparts.com/_res/i/parts/collection/06_ENGB_SMBL_LQ9_01.jpg
Ill have to take a pic of the new reworked harness (which gets rid of all the factory sensors that i do not need for my setup and conversion) and upload them later. But here are pics of the new oil pan to fit my A-body (7qts vs. 4.5) pickup, conversion motor mounts to fit sbc mounts to the LS motor, and oil filter relocation kit.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P2220127.jpg
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The only parts that i need left is the water pump and twin external fuel pumps with wiring harness. Then everything else will be fabricated or just be small parts like fittings and stuff like that.

[jdk971]

where did you get the lq9 and about how much. thanks jim

[buick46270]

You can find them at all different prices depending on miles, what you want with it, and trans.

I paid $2000 for the motor, wiring harness, 130 amp alternator, pcm, 4l80 trans and converter

[Skyhawk]

Not to sound cruel but anybody can make a Chevy run but not many can make a Buick run:Smarty: . Good luck with your project but watch out when those Buick guys come whipping by you:moonu: .

[buick46270]

Not to sound cruel but anybody can make a Chevy run but not many can make a Buick run:Smarty: . Good luck with your project but watch out when those Buick guys come whipping by you:moonu: .

Not being rude when i say this but i think i made the buick run when it dyno'd at 776 hp:beers2: . Not real high hp by racing means but still more power than what 90+% of the buick street cars see.

The new sutup will be atleast 700hp to the wheels to start off then probably 850 in the end, and its still all going to be on pump gas and ill be pulling down 20+ miles to the gallon.

[Skyhawk]

Well whenever you get it done my son will try & give your car a run for the money with his Procharged Buick powered Skylark 4000 lb. streetcar. The one with the baby seat in the back and it is certified to 7:50! He will never go that fast with this motor but I know the car is super safe for the 150mph speeds.

[buick46270]

Well whenever you get it done my son will try & give your car a run for the money with his Procharged Buick powered Skylark 4000 lb. streetcar. The one with the baby seat in the back and it is certified to 7:50! He will never go that fast with this motor but I know the car is super safe for the 150mph speeds.

Sounds like a deal lol. But it will be next year before the "fast" setup is here. It takes a lil time when you 20 and in school. But i think my lil old 80mm turbo will like the challenge.

[jdk971]

here we go. i am looking at a ls for my old vette. those engines are amazing for the power they put out and the gas mileage. i understand the buick thing. i will keep my nailhead in my skylark. however, it is his car and he can put anything in it he wants. to me there is nothing wrong with new tech in old vehicles. good luck buick46270 and keep smiling. it is going to get ugly. jim

[buick46270]

Ah its ok. Everyone has their loyalty to certain brands. And anyone that knows me knows that im not into nor care about hurting peoples feelings and just do what i want and bellieve. I love my buick car, and will never get rid of it, but im really just a hot rodder and keeping that part allive, adapting different parts to get the best of both worlds.

And from the last post talking about the 80mm turbo, i guess ill go ahead and tell the future plans.
First thing ill be doing is ripping the motor out and doing a 408 stroker kit, some stock L92/LS3 heads (300+cfm), pretty big cam, and edelbrocks new xfi intake.
Then ill decide if ill go the turbo route or just a big 2 stage of nitrous.

[66cat]

Good swap. It will make tons of power and be very reliable. Look foward to seeing progress posted.

[K0K0]

Cool project to me a LS motor is a corporate motor and i don't think it to be chevy, if you did put a sbc that would be a different story.It is real tempting with the LS power mileage and reliability.Good luck with it and looking forward to more updates.
Jamie

[ric]

I'll throw down what's left of my 401k on the Jr's Buick Pro Charger....well that may be about 10 bucks given the current state of the market:laugh:

[PaulGS]

Better check those Milodon welds really good.....I had a failure on a oil pick up that cost me $4K to fix......:blast:

[jdk971]

paul is right. the rubber gasket of the pickup to the pump needs to be square. some people are elongating the middle and last bolt holes on the
pickup rod. this puts less stress on the rubber gasket on the pickup. i guess, i
don't know for sure some people attach the back bolt then the middle bolt first. this causes the gasket to be stressed allowing the pickup to suck air.
for perfect info check with a ls mechanic. other than that i have heard nothing else wrong. jim

[buick46270]

I allready know about the oil pickup tube due to other peoples tragedies but thanks for the heads up.

And come on, I know some of yall hate me for ditching the buick motor, but no faith in me winning with 700hp to the wheels with a 4k stall and strans brake? Dont kick me out of the buick club yet :moonu:

[buick46270]

to me a LS motor is a corporate motor and i don't think it to be chevy
Jamie

I pulled this motor out of a Cadillac Escalade, so atleast i stayed with GM class lol. My rear end is also out of a Oldsmobile 4-4-2, anyone going to give me slack about that? Its all GM in the end:eek2:

[staged70]

I don't hate you for ditching the BBB! Why not install a souped up Nissan engine with dual turbos and 1000 hp? The new Hot Rod has one in a vintage Camaro. Then you can be like the kid on Fast and furious Tokoyo with his Shelby/Toyota thing.

[kick71]

Cool project. I love Buick products but I agree with you, for me too its all about Hot Rodding. Lots of things to try run so do it while and if you can! Love to see updates.

Mike

[buick46270]

I don't hate you for ditching the BBB! Why not install a souped up Nissan engine with dual turbos and 1000 hp? The new Hot Rod has one in a vintage Camaro. Then you can be like the kid on Fast and furious Tokoyo with his Shelby/Toyota thing.


Why not, that motor in the camaro has about the came power that ill be building and its just a 6 cylinder, then i could still beat all the hatred people with 2 less cylinders and give yall something else to bs about.

Honestly, if you dont like what im doing, o well i really dont care and wouldnt be doing it if i did or wanted to conform to what everyone thinks is right or loyal.

On that note, for the poeple that actually like this and want to know info or anything about the build, setup, or fabrication just ask and ill give any info i can, and take whatever pics that i can during the build.

[standup 69]

what turbo are you planning on? is it going to be intercooled give us some more info,seems like a interesting project? I was wondering why all your stuff was for sale

[jadebird]

Great choice! I've thought long and hard about doing this to my 69, but I just can't put a chevy in the old Buick. It loses all originality, in my opinion.
This 5.3L BONE STOCK (with Z06 cam swap) truck motor transplant in an 80's Ford Fairmont with single turbo that runs 9.73 had me really thinking about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9uU_3VHT0&feature=related
I decided I will build a decent Buick street/strip motor for the Buick, and then do what your doing with a 6.0L LS in a '97 S-10 for a pure strip car.
I saw that GMPP has an A-body / muscle car oil pan listed in their catalog. I found it at paceparts.com.
I'll be interested to see how you make it all work. Good luck, and keep those of us who are interested informed of your progress.

[BuickBuddy]

Not being rude when i say this but i think i made the buick run when it dyno'd at 776 hp:beers2: . Not real high hp by racing means but still more power than what 90+% of the buick street cars see.

The new sutup will be atleast 700hp to the wheels to start off then probably 850 in the end, and its still all going to be on pump gas and ill be pulling down 20+ miles to the gallon.


Dyno and the track are two different animals. Putting the power to the ground is where they separate the men from the boys.

[buick46270]

The power adder will come last and i havnt really decided on it yet. To start off ill do a 408 stroker kit with some ls3 ported heads (350cfm) and edelbrock xfi intake, which is kinda like a tunnel ram setup for fuel injection, 1500-7000rpm.

http://www.proheads.com/webshots/LSXT_Specs.jpg

If I go the turbo route it will be a single 80mm-88mm turbo with intercooler and meth injection.
If I go the nitrous route it will be between 200-300 shot on a dual stage setup.

And before the power adders all the trans will need to take this power is some upgraded clutches and a full manual reverse valve body. Allong with a 4000 stall lockup converter.

[buick46270]

Dyno and the track are two different animals. Putting the power to the ground is where they separate the men from the boys.

Dont think ill have any problem hooking up either, they guy doing this swap for me is a chassis, suspension and fabrication man.

Ive already got adjustable shocks all around, and double adj. upper and lower rear control arms. With the last setup it would hook with little 9 inch slicks or the equivalent size drag radials everytime. Even with the future 200hp extra to the rear tires that im planning on shouldn't be a problem with my new mini tubs. 325-50-15 drag radials, and 28x13x15 slicks for the win:grin:

Still going to be a heavy car and im actually making it heavier lol. 22gal fuel cell in the trunk, 2 batteries, and 1 or 2 nitrous bottles (no trunk space left), but this will actually help the weight distribution to the rear.

Also a hitch hidden behind the bumper where the stock gas tank would be. Whenever i want to tow the trailer just have to lower the license plate, and put in the ball and tongue. (but totally hidden when not in use.

[td99]

treason :spank:

cody

[K0K0]

Verry interesting project what will you do for ignition is there an after market one or do you have to work with stock?
Jamie

[Hector]

Please keep the pics coming as you can,your car your call.:bglasses:

[roboteq-1@hotma]

The Dark Side has seduced you with its cunning whiles,easy power gains and available parts, Young Grasshopper- Be Wary! Ford overhead cam engines are next, and then-your final downfall-vintage AMC drivelines and Lucas Electrics. You have chosen the Dark Path indeed, Young Streetwalker!! Beware!!!:eek2: :confused: Your lightsaber grows less rigid with each transgression.

But hey seriously, if you're haven a good time and no ones getting hurt-who cares? More power ( literally- to ya!! )
Robert:Brow:

[buick46270]

Verry interesting project what will you do for ignition is there an after market one or do you have to work with stock?
Jamie

Ill be using the stock ignition. The truck coils are actually more powerful than the any of the other LS engines including what is on the Z06 vetts and have been used and proven on motors running 1000hp. Im also sticking with the stock computer (tuned of course) and they too have been used for high hp applications but in the future i might switch to an aftermarket one if theres a need or i go over 15#s of boost.

[K0K0]

Ill be using the stock ignition. The truck coils are actually more powerful than the any of the other LS engines including what is on the Z06 vetts and have been used and proven on motors running 1000hp. Im also sticking with the stock computer (tuned of course) and they too have been used for high hp applications but in the future i might switch to an aftermarket one if theres a need or i go over 15#s of boost.
Cool thx for the info pls keep us updated as you go and pay no attention to the guys that bang on you this is a cool project.
Jamie

[72RivGS]

I think it's a cool project, those motors have the potential for some serious power, and parts are relatively cheep too. Just one question, why the change in the first place? Your old combo sounded pretty sweet. Keep us posted and good luck.:beers2:

[buick46270]

Cool thx for the info pls keep us updated as you go and pay no attention to the guys bang on you this is cool project.
Jamie

I myself wont get to take many pics because of school and work, and my car being 1 hour away, but ill see if the guy building this setup will take pics allong the way.

As far as fabrication, all hes doing is making custom solid motor mounts out of chrome molly, and making a new trans cross member for this huge trans, other than that most of it just just simple but really time consuming especially with the wiring harness and computer.

But like mentioned before this is just going in stock right now except for electric water pump and low mount alternator, maybe 400 crank hp lol. And after the conversion is over then ill start saving up money for all the mods.


Ive allready got a few more parts coming. It basically takes up all my trunk space but also will help with weight bias and traction in the future.
22 gal. fuel cell with sump sticking just below the trunk floor so all fittings and lines are under the car, 2 batteries with boxes, and either 1 or 2 nitrous bottles depending on space. (just making the car heavier:Dou:)

[buick46270]

I think it's a cool project, those motors have the potential for some serious power, and parts are relatively cheep too. Just one question, why the change in the first place? Your old combo sounded pretty sweet. Keep us posted and good luck.:beers2:

Like you said, parts availability and cheaper.
408 stroker kit $1800---aftermarket buick crank $2400 plus rods and pistons
head that flow 350cfm $1200---buick heads flowing 350cfm ??? $2500
wanting to run 700rwhp safely and last a long time = stock block---700rwhp in the buick motor, stock block plus about $1200 in mods with girdle, or new $6000 block
.....and so forth.

But im still not trying to bash buick so i dont want anyone jumping on my back about it. I love buick but for what im doing this is a lot more reasonable, affordable, and smart for what im wanting to do.

I loved my old buick motor with the procharger! But not the gas milleage and lack of long trips. With the new motor i can drive it anywhere, everyday, and still have all the power i want.

[72RivGS]

Hey it's your car, you pay for it, screw what other people think, right?

[marxjunk]

Heres a doggy LQ9 for ya...these are early pics, im ready to take it back aprt and start to put it on a rotisseri....just an old junky truck motor in a rambler....

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine8.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine9.jpg

[marxjunk]

Heres a doggy LQ9 for ya...these are early pics, im ready to take it back aprt and start to put it on a rotisseri....just an old junky truck motor in a rambler....

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine8.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine9.jpg

[marxjunk]

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/plasticls1001.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/richmond3.jpg

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[sailbrd]

Mark,
What is that conection that I have circled for?

[marxjunk]

Mark,
What is that conection that I have circled for?


Oil presurization under boost..its what vortech uses, im gonna clean it up and do it a little neater....

[sailbrd]

Oil presurization under boost..its what vortech uses, im gonna clean it up and do it a little neater....

I would have guessed that. What would be the reason to do this?

[buick46270]

Heres a doggy LQ9 for ya...these are early pics, im ready to take it back aprt and start to put it on a rotisseri....just an old junky truck motor in a rambler....

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine8.jpg

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp48/marxjunk/my%20javelin/engine9.jpg

Getting close to having that one done.

Im about a week away to getting started on mine. The rest of my parts will be in tuesday and wednesday and ill post up some more pics, then hopefully the lq9 motor will go to the shop and get started on the customization!

[buick46270]

Well i almost have all the parts in, 2-piece timing cover, water pump, dual fuel pumps, and wiring harness will be in mon. or tues.

16 gal fuel cell, and remote batter box X2

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P4020134.jpg
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[stage11's]

I like the swap, keep us posted:TU:

[buick46270]

Courtesy of Lonnies Performance and Lt1350.com (too lazy to pull new harness out and then pack it back in)

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[Woodsters]

Looking good. Thanks for keeping us posted! David

[buick46270]

I also went ahead and ordered some arp rod bolts for a little security while running boost or nitrous before the 408 goes in.

Edelbrock two piece timing cover, and meziere water pump:laugh:.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P4040123.jpg
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[K0K0]

I also went ahead and ordered some arp rod bolts for a little security while running boost or nitrous before the 408 goes in.

Edelbrock two piece timing cover, and meziere water pump:laugh:.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P4040123.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P4040128.jpg
That is a sweet setup.This project looks to be coming together well. What time frame are you looking to have this done?
Jamie

[buick46270]

That is a sweet setup.This project looks to be coming together well. What time frame are you looking to have this done?
Jamie

There are two cars being worked on now and the other is a 90mm turbo drag car so that one is being done first, but in two weeks were dropping my motor and welding up the custom chrome molly solid motor mounts then ill be setting up the wiring harness and fuel system while mike does all the misc wiring and customization. As far as when it has to be done, im not really picky, just happy to be moving forward and getting things done.

[black70buick]

Man I am with ya, I've already got the 4L80E tranny behind my 455 and IF anything catastrophic happens to my 455 (Hopefully not), I'll just drop in a 6.0 or other standard GM engine. I've been watching the local craigslist for the 6.0Ls.

I'm not into racing, but I am with you on what is more reliable, cost effective, and for the mose part true to the GM brand.

-Chad

[buick46270]

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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/usabodyguard/for%20sale/PFTC.jpg

3000 stall converter and 125 shot of nitrous added to the mix:beer . Ill be in the very high 7's on bone stock motor:pp .

[V8TV]

This is a cool project. We did a variable valve timing L92 into a '66 GTO last year, and the car ran great.

One question - you can run a GM gas pedal and the drive-by-wire system very cheaply and easily.... why not use it? I think you can get a Monte Carlo pedal for like $55.00, and it bolts to the A-body floor with no problems.

Here's the car we built...

http://v8tvshow.com/content/blogcategory/74/118/

[buick46270]

This is a cool project. We did a variable valve timing L92 into a '66 GTO last year, and the car ran great.

One question - you can run a GM gas pedal and the drive-by-wire system very cheaply and easily.... why not use it? I think you can get a Monte Carlo pedal for like $55.00, and it bolts to the A-body floor with no problems.

Here's the car we built...

http://v8tvshow.com/content/blogcategory/74/118/

I just like (and trust) the throttle cable setup and is much cheeper than the elecronic tb setup. The pedals are cheep but the tac module is like $250 with the wiring harness.

[72RivGS]

Any updates on this build? It's a very interesting project.

[buick46270]

Any updates on this build? It's a very interesting project.

Motor was dropped in today, but no pics...and prob wont be any untill the car is completely done. My camera got destroyed by a plasma cutter:ball: and all the pics of the motor build and custom mounts were lost.

Hopefully all should be done in about 2 weeks

[72RivGS]

Good luck on the rest of the build:3gears:

[buick46270]

well talk about bringing it back from the dead, the car WILL be done in about a month now (FINALLY!!!)
Still an lq9 6.0 motor, just with the corvette ls6 cam, stiffer valve springs, pushrods, and timing chain.

Some pics....
http://carma-performance.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/SSC_2494.JPG
http://carma-performance.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/SSC_2496.JPG
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http://carma-performance.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/SSC_2495.JPG

[buick46270]

Notice in the last pic the big hole in the car lol, trans tunnel had to be cut to fit the huge 4l80 trans in.

And just incase i forgot to mention...the car is also getting a 75mm t6 turbo with air to water intercooler:eek2:

[slolark]

This is a cool project. We did a variable valve timing L92 into a '66 GTO last year, and the car ran great.
how do they do variable valve timing with a pushrod engine? never heard of this. I know Honda (vtec) uses oil pressure to drive a pin into free floating lifters, and thats how it uses the more extreme lobe.

[1967GS340]

Looking good!
I like the thought of a Buick motor in a Buick, but I can sure understand what you are doing. Hard to argue with the horse power to dollar ratio of a Chevy to start with. Should be a more durable setup than a maxed out BBB also.
Can't wait to hear how she does!

[Heavy D]

I cant believe your ruining your car, first you paint it like a GSX, which its NOT, now a chevy motor. Why dont you just buy a Malibu instead of ruining a Buick! Geeze!.....:rolleyes:

I'm so kidding! Some of these guy's are way too serious. I was told by "the real Buick guys", how bad it was that I pulled the V6 out of my GN and now are putting a V8 in it! Hell, its a 455 and their still complaining. Hot rodding is about you and your idea's. If they dont like it, good! I'm surprised they hav'nt said something about you not doing all the work yourself, thats a good one too.....I love your build! Thanks for sharing!

[kick71]

Nice progress. Can't wait to hear how it runs and drives.
Man that is a big hole!:shock:

[buick46270]

how do they do variable valve timing with a pushrod engine? never heard of this. I know Honda (vtec) uses oil pressure to drive a pin into free floating lifters, and thats how it uses the more extreme lobe.
My motor isnt a VVT, thats on the newer models, and about all i know is that it has cam phasers....and then im lost :idea2:, sorry couldnt be more help on that.

[buick46270]

Looking good!
I like the thought of a Buick motor in a Buick, but I can sure understand what you are doing. Hard to argue with the horse power to dollar ratio of a Chevy to start with. Should be a more durable setup than a maxed out BBB also.
Can't wait to hear how she does!

lq9 motor, 4l80 trans, wirng harness and pc=== $2000
turbo, wastegate, blow off valve=== $1200
....and ill have the same power to the wheels as my procharged buick motor with 100 less cubic inches, atleast 10 more mpg, and 2-3 less psi of boost

and im not going into how much the 3 cracked buick blocks cost me, weve all been there and know what it costs

[buick46270]

I cant believe your ruining your car, first you paint it like a GSX, which its NOT, now a chevy motor. Why dont you just buy a Malibu instead of ruining a Buick! Geeze!.....:rolleyes:

I'm so kidding! Some of these guy's are way too serious. I was told by "the real Buick guys", how bad it was that I pulled the V6 out of my GN and now are putting a V8 in it! Hell, its a 455 and their still complaining. Hot rodding is about you and your idea's. If they dont like it, good! I'm surprised they hav'nt said something about you not doing all the work yourself, thats a good one too.....I love your build! Thanks for sharing!

Your exactly right and ive already had a few people try to change my mind or tell me how wrong I am...hot rodding is what makes racing of all kinds and customizing so fun and lasting all these years

...And heck, if they dont like it, it doesnt bother me one bit, and to be honest, getting a buick car was a bad idea (what i was told coming from the chevy world) but hey, i like being different and so far, no one complains in the end and the car still turns heads, cant beat that!!!

[slolark]

Whats the compression ratio on that LQ9? Are they Hypertectic pistons or are the forged from the factory?

[buick46270]

factory compression is 10 to 1, not sure on the pistons but they are not forged, but with a good tune they will handle 500rwhp for a long time...also, theres plenty of people putting down 600 ad 700rwhp numbers on these blocks and last for quite a few years, just have to mke sure you don't detonate, need meth injection or good gas, and always a good safe tune

[slolark]

:Brow:windshield washer fluid
lol

[buick46270]

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60# injectors with wiring harness injectors came in today, one step closer

[steve covington]

I'm just glad you prevented another car from the crusher. At least it IS keeping the Buick image alive. Most of my vehicles don't have their original factory drivetrains, and I enjoy them. BUMP all the nay-sayers.:moonu:
They better have 100% concourse NOS / OEM cars then. It's all in what YOU want it to be, in the long run.

[buick46270]

The new snail came in today!!!
Borg Werner/Airwerks S400 75mm
T6 divided housing with 1.10 AR
Looks like a 5in inlet, 3 in cold side, 4 1/2 hot side

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[buick46270]

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[ToddsGS]

Cool Project.

Thanks for sharing with us. And don't worry about the ribbing you're taking!
I Cloned out a GSX out of a Rust Free Skylark and dropped an LS2 in it along with a 4 speed OD trans and I love it!

The car weighs 3,300 pounds with A/C and Power everything and that Lil LS2 makes "around" 600 Horse which is just enough to make the car fun and competitive on the street. (Not to mention the added fuel milage)

You'll never build something that EVERYONE will like so build what YOU like and enjoy it.

I'm also building a Stock Appearing 70 GS with Buick Power and you've had Buick Powered cars before so even the purists need to cut us some slack!! LOL
We're just Hot Rodders keeping the Hobby alive!

And as I've mentioned before, I like to think of these LSX motors as GM Corporate Motors. A vintage SBC is a little different "Swap" - In my opinion.

[buick46270]

Thanks Toddsgs.

Intercooler came in last week and the cold side piping and couplers came in yesterday. Hopefully everything will be wired up and running by the end of next week or so and ill have some numbers. Just 7lbs by the way.

[buick46270]

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[gd2227]

Buick46270- just sent you an email as my PM box is full. :Comp: :3gears: :bglasses:

[kick71]

Thats a funny looking battery:pp
Just kidding, looks awesome! Looking forward to the numbers!

Mike

[buick46270]

Buick46270- just sent you an email as my PM box is full. :Comp: :3gears: :bglasses:

I tried sending you an email twice and i get a failure email back, dont know whats going on.

[junglejim75]

Awesome looking project, can't wait to see how it turns out.

Are you gonna be heat wrapping those pipes to protect some of the engine parts or do you think there is enough space?

[GoldBoattail455]

I love the LS series motors and have nothing against swapping them in. They put out tremendous amounts of power and can knock down impressive mpg numbers if that is what your after.

[buick46270]

Awesome looking project, can't wait to see how it turns out.

Are you gonna be heat wrapping those pipes to protect some of the engine parts or do you think there is enough space?

They wont be heat wrapped, all the cold side pipes and hot side pipes minus the down pipe are stainless so they will dissipate heat well. For now just the exhaust housing on the turbo and the down pipe are heat coated in black, and the rest of the system will get jet hot coated as well later in the year when i build some more money back up and the car is done.

[buick46270]

Ok so a little closer to done now. Mostly wiring and some plumbing left. Here are some pics.

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[buick46270]

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[sean Buick 76]

Cool!

[buick46270]

IT CRANKS!!!! So close to being done, i cant wait....well, except for the bill lol

[doug adkins]

you do beautiful work!:bglasses:

[gd2227]

I tried sending you an email twice and i get a failure email back, dont know whats going on.

Maybe I used the wrong email account. :puzzled:

gd2227@verizon.net

[buick46270]

you do beautiful work!:bglasses:
I wish i could take all the credit for this but i cant, a local high performance shop is helping me out. Me doing all this would take over a year with my busy schedule, they have had this for 2 months now and itll be done in about two weeks


Maybe I used the wrong email account. :puzzled:

gd2227@verizon.net

pm sent

[sean Buick 76]

Update???

[buick46270]

Update???

No pics but the car is basically done. All im waiting on is a hobbs switch to activate my 2nd fuel pump on and 3bar map sensor for my 2 step setup. Then itll be on the dyno.....its always the little things that hold you back

[Microsoft Paint]

You doing a truck manifold setup? Love this project, hope you get to enjoy it soon :).

[buick46270]

You doing a truck manifold setup? Love this project, hope you get to enjoy it soon :).

Yea, theyre the stock truck manifolds flipped around backwards with the stock flanges cut off and v-band flanges welded to them. Everything disassembles real fast and easy

[1967BuickGS400]

Nice project I looks right at home under the hood. What kinda power do you think its going to make and how many psi of boost? Is it a stock bottom end? I am thinking about doing a LS1 350 with twin turbos. I was going to go with a buick 455 but the cost to get the power I would like is to much with the BB.

[buick46270]

Nice project I looks right at home under the hood. What kinda power do you think its going to make and how many psi of boost? Is it a stock bottom end? I am thinking about doing a LS1 350 with twin turbos. I was going to go with a buick 455 but the cost to get the power I would like is to much with the BB.

Were going to run right at 7-8 psi, we have 3 waste gate springs and we will run whichever one will get us closest to that psi. Were shooting for around 500 rwhp, but no real goal, just what the 7 psi makes is where we will stay. And the tuning is being done a a dyno dynamics dyno (known as the heart breaker) because it reads so low.

Its basically a stock bottom end. Only upgrades were arp rod bolts, ls2 timing chain, and hardened push rods...rest is stock for now:Brow: .


Also, unless your just stuck on twins, go single. You can make just the same amount of power and cost you much less to do. And i dont know what your engine bay is like compared to mine but mine would be almost impossible to do a twin setup because of the drivers side.

[PaulGS]

You can't beat 40 years of R&D and thousands of engineering man hours that the new LS motors have over the '60s GM motors.

[1967BuickGS400]

Thanks for the info.

[buick46270]

AAAAHHH!!!! Its always the lil stuff that gets you, im still waiting on a hobb's switch coming from Cali...its the only thing holding my car from getting tuned and finished up

[1967BuickGS400]

Just wondering if you have any updates. I am really interested in this build.

[Willby70]

Sound clip please:beer . Nice build.

[72RivGS]

Sound clip please:beer . Nice build.

x2 :TU:

[gm4life]

Very nice build i have so many questions on this build i currently have 2 motors and un decided which to use. You said truck manifolds what years.
and they welded the ends .... how big of pipe running up to the turbo ....what size down pipe after the turbo ..... di you buy the motor mounts or make them

[gm4life]

Very nice build i have so many questions on this build i currently have 2 motors and un decided which to use. You said truck manifolds what years.
and they welded the ends .... how big of pipe running up to the turbo ....what size down pipe after the turbo ..... di you buy the motor mounts or make them

[gm4life]

Very nice build i have so many questions on this build i currently have 2 motors and un decided which to use. You said truck manifolds what years.
and they welded the ends .... how big of pipe running up to the turbo ....what size down pipe after the turbo ..... di you buy the motor mounts or make them

[buick46270]

Very nice build i have so many questions on this build i currently have 2 motors and un decided which to use. You said truck manifolds what years.
and they welded the ends .... how big of pipe running up to the turbo ....what size down pipe after the turbo ..... di you buy the motor mounts or make them

1. The truck manifolds are all the same for the 4.8, 5.3, and 6.0, just find a set without the egr/air tube coming off the manfolds.

2. I cant remember what size pipe we ran from the manifold into the turbo, either 2 or 2 1/4 from each side merging into one

3. The cold side piping of the turbo is 3in from the turbo to the throttle body, and the exhaust of the turbo is 4in piping

4. My motor mounts were completely fab'd up but you can buy mounts from jegs and edelbrock to drop the motor in...i had mine custom built so that i could have the motor as far back and low as possible for better handling and weight transfer

[1967BuickGS400]

Just wondering if you have been to the dyno yet? What kinda numbers did you get?

[gm4life]

they just welded the stainless right to the cast manifolds ??? have you been driving it or raced it yet

[buick46270]

Just wondering if you have been to the dyno yet? What kinda numbers did you get?


they just welded the stainless right to the cast manifolds ??? have you been driving it or raced it yet

1. No dyno yet, but the car sounds good and is just waiting to be tuned (hopefully this week)...the guy that is going to tune my car hurt his hand about a month ago and found out he had some disease, minears? spelling?, something to do with virtigo and inner ear...it messed him up good but hes finally recovering

2. Yes they just welded the ss to the cast, the guy that did all the hard labor on this build is a master fabricator and is just plain bad a$$ at welding. For people not comfortable with this and worried about cracking (and if mine does in time) you can buy v-band clamps with ss on one side, and cast on the other

[gm4life]

by looking at the pictures i see no pwr steering was that by choice or had to be done to fit the left side piping ?? I work for buick pontiac gmc truck we did a aps turbo on a 05 gto completly stock eng no meth injection it made 608 at the wheels and ran 10.4 at 130 i think you guess for hp will be way more than you think :TU:

[buick46270]

by looking at the pictures i see no pwr steering was that by choice or had to be done to fit the left side piping ?? I work for buick pontiac gmc truck we did a aps turbo on a 05 gto completly stock eng no meth injection it made 608 at the wheels and ran 10.4 at 130 i think you guess for hp will be way more than you think :TU:

The car already had manual steering box from the previous procharger setup (although pwr steering could be used if you wanted)

The car (when i have it lol) is my DD, and i will just be keeping in on 5lbs of boost untill i get some forged rods and pistons in it next winter. BUT the dyno that my tuner has is the lowest reading brand of dynos on the market..Dyno Dynamics...he says you can have up to a 20 percent loss/shown power as the higher reading ones, but hey its still the same power in the end.

IE..last motor made 776hp (engine dyno) on 12lbs of boost, then on the engine dyno, with 10 lbs of boost it only put 464 to the wheels

[buick46270]

After 6 years of owning this car its been rightfully named the BITCH

short video of it running, cheap camera but good enough.
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view¤t=P1010131.flv (http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view&current=P1010131.flv)

2 step and pcm behind drivers headlight.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010126.jpg

Big ass -an lines, the meziere pump for this is really quiet (can barely hear even with motor off) but flows ALOT of volume.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010124.jpg

Painted all the old wheels black, much better than the fading and rusting chrome.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010123.jpg

All the new guages! I def. like them and they are really bright.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010134.jpg

[buick46270]

^^^bump with the updates

[nelson20]

After 6 years of owning this car its been rightfully named the BITCH

short video of it running, cheap camera but good enough.
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view¤t=P1010131.flv (http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view&current=P1010131.flv)

2 step and pcm behind drivers headlight.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010126.jpg

Big ass -an lines, the meziere pump for this is really quiet (can barely hear even with motor off) but flows ALOT of volume.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010124.jpg

Painted all the old wheels black, much better than the fading and rusting chrome.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010123.jpg

All the new guages! I def. like them and they are really bright.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010134.jpg



What gauges are these? they look pretty cool

[buick46270]

i got them from Cyberdyne, they have high or low warnings, and playback.

[buick46270]

bone stock 6.0 out of wrecked escalade, only additions were rod bolts, timing chain, springs, and pushrods (and of course the turbo)

This is on a dyno dynamics dyno which is the most stingy dyno on the market....fyi, 464 procharger made 767hp on engine dyno (12 lbs), and only laid down 460 on chassis dyno (10 lbs)


New motor ^^^ (73k miles used lol)
360 rwhp 3.5 psi
450 rwhp 7.5 psi
475 rwhp 8.5 psi

and this morning were going to bump it up to 10 psi and leave it alone

so far picking up 20rwhp per psi

[1967BuickGS400]

Is that the wheel dyno numbers or engine dyno?

[1967BuickGS400]

never mind I just read it again.

[buick46270]

well for the non haters on here my car just needs some better take offs and this car will be a beast again

7.9 1/8th @ 98
11.9 1/4 @ 123

2.2, 2.3 60' lol

car weighed 3885 with me in it (im 190)

[gs455david]

pretty damn good for first time out. enough mph to run high tens all day. Great build. Unless people are paying for your project, their opinions matter as much as herpes to someone on hospice with AIDs.

[gm4life]

That is a great number for a used motor ep where it has the stock cam in it. did you dyno it at 10 psi ????

This post has made me ges my but in gear ..... i have 2 motors 6.0 that has been stroked to 6.6 and a 6.2 that is stock i e mailed some pics to my engine builder and he loved the photo,s esp the stock manifolds

so i am going to use the 6.2 alluminum block the stroker crank. rods some new pistons should give me 6.8 liter a new turbo/blower cam hopefully make 500 at the wheels also GOTTA LOVE THOSE HAIR DRYERS

[buick46270]

pretty damn good for first time out. enough mph to run high tens all day. Great build. Unless people are paying for your project, their opinions matter as much as herpes to someone on hospice with AIDs.

thanks man, my goal was just 10.9 with pump gas and a daily driver.


That is a great number for a used motor ep where it has the stock cam in it. did you dyno it at 10 psi ????

This post has made me ges my but in gear ..... i have 2 motors 6.0 that has been stroked to 6.6 and a 6.2 that is stock i e mailed some pics to my engine builder and he loved the photo,s esp the stock manifolds

so i am going to use the 6.2 alluminum block the stroker crank. rods some new pistons should give me 6.8 liter a new turbo/blower cam hopefully make 500 at the wheels also GOTTA LOVE THOSE HAIR DRYERS

No we never dyno'd it at 10 psi, that will come in a month or so, the shop wanted to take it to 10 but i wanted to get used to the power again before i went any higher, after one day of driving im ready to turn it up already lol...as the year goes on the boost will keep getting turned up and near the end of the race season some race gas and high boost is getting thrown at it.

Its not the stock cam for this motor, its a ls6 cam on a 112 center, which is actually not the best for boost, would be better if i left it on the stock 117 center.

Coming from me on here its funny saying its your car so do what you want lol, but if you 6.0 is the iron block it would prob be better to use it over the 6.2 aluminum if your ever going to turn the power up alot. If 500rwhp is your goal, and even 600rwhp youll be fine with the aluminum and wont take much boost to do so.

This winter im hoping to put a stroker kit in this motor like you, or atleast just get a good set of rods and pistons in the current motor if it doesnt blow. Forged motor and 650rwhp is the goal for next year...on pump gas lol

[gm4life]

What type of tuner did you use ?? we have a dyno shop here in MA i have never seen any natural aspirated cars make 1 hp per cubic inch at the wheel kinda seen a few come real close but it makes you realize that you have to have some type of forced induction or the result maybe tail lights all the time. did you ever try to lock up the converter when dynoing or at the track .... i saw a dyno with home made twin turbo,s in a 280z with a ferrari kit on it, totally home made exhaust a 441 stroker chevy motor on the last run he used the lock up on his 4l80 and it made 30 more hp and 100 ftlbs i almost fell on the floor turbo,s seem to love the load. So i asked him do you use it at the track he said ya but only in 3rd a week later the dyno shop told me he ran 9.1 at 162 and drove it to and from the track WOW he was using a meth kit with 93 octane CRAZY cant wait to here how it goes as the boost goes up . bet she holds 12 to 14 psi dam good GREAT JOB and i bet the drivability is second to none :TU: :beers2:

[K0K0]

Great work on getting your car done :TU: .Your are making good power when you can get it to the ground your et will really start to drop.Keep up the good work.
Jamie

[buick46270]

Great work on getting your car done :TU: .Your are making good power when you can get it to the ground your et will really start to drop.Keep up the good work.
Jamie

Thanks, im happy to finally have it back and enjoy it again.

Im not having any problem getting power to the ground (spinning tires if that what you meant)...i just dont have all the low end power NA, before boost comes in, that the BBB had....i just need to be able to build some boost on the line so i can take off with power.

I got my 2-step hooked up today so hopefully that will help me some at the track for getting the turbo spooled and making boost on the line for when i go to the track this friday. Also im going to see if i can adjust my rear drums to hold a lil better untill i get some real brakes put on in a month or so.

[buick46270]

What type of tuner did you use ?? we have a dyno shop here in MA i have never seen any natural aspirated cars make 1 hp per cubic inch at the wheel kinda seen a few come real close but it makes you realize that you have to have some type of forced induction or the result maybe tail lights all the time. did you ever try to lock up the converter when dynoing or at the track .... i saw a dyno with home made twin turbo,s in a 280z with a ferrari kit on it, totally home made exhaust a 441 stroker chevy motor on the last run he used the lock up on his 4l80 and it made 30 more hp and 100 ftlbs i almost fell on the floor turbo,s seem to love the load. So i asked him do you use it at the track he said ya but only in 3rd a week later the dyno shop told me he ran 9.1 at 162 and drove it to and from the track WOW he was using a meth kit with 93 octane CRAZY cant wait to here how it goes as the boost goes up . bet she holds 12 to 14 psi dam good GREAT JOB and i bet the drivability is second to none :TU: :beers2:

HPTuners was used for my car

there are tons of cars around here that have more than 1hp per ci at the wheels, quite a few that are atleast 1.5 per ci, and even a few nasty 2hp per ci cars around here lol, racing scene is big....... but yes forced induction makes things much much easier, on of the guys i race with has a 3.0L motor that puts 82xrwhp, even quite a few 4 cylinders that have 400-5xxrwhp,,,you have to watch out

right now i do not have the converter locked at all under wot, once i put a shift kit in the trans i will have it locked up in 3rd

[gm4life]

Sorry to be a pest what converter are you running?.... some of the gn guys s/10 rear wheel cylinders for more holding power on the line i launch the gn with 15 psi on the foot brake How much lag? is it responsive? ..... i told you i would have alot of questions :Dou:

[buick46270]

Sorry to be a pest what converter are you running?.... some of the gn guys s/10 rear wheel cylinders for more holding power on the line i launch the gn with 15 psi on the foot brake How much lag? is it responsive? ..... i told you i would have alot of questions :Dou:

lol no problem man, i asked a ton of questions researching for my build.

Im running a tc from a comparny called Performabuild, its a 10in tripple disc lock up converter ($900) but will hold anthing ill ever throw at it

Im going to adjust my rear brakes tomorow before the track to see if i can get them to hold any more, but since ill be getting some race brakes in July im just tryin to save my money.

First gear is a lil laggy (2.2 60') taking off with no boost, but once it comes on it keeps pullin just as hard untill you let off. And from a roll its just instantly in boost, no lag when driving down the road and you need to..."merge" lol

[1967BuickGS400]

Just wondering where you got your oil pan, filter relocation kit. Also did you have to do anything to your gas tank to run the engine. ( in tank sending unit). I am doing a LS 6.0l as well so I thought I would ask you a couple questions since you have already gone through this.

[buick46270]

Just wondering where you got your oil pan, filter relocation kit. Also did you have to do anything to your gas tank to run the engine. ( in tank sending unit). I am doing a LS 6.0l as well so I thought I would ask you a couple questions since you have already gone through this.

I got the oil pan and filter relocation from JEGS.

For my tank i bought a sump from jegs as well and had it welded on...2 external walbro 255lph fuel pumps, 1 that runs all the time and 1 that turns on when the motor see's 2+ psi of boost. And the fuel return goes to the stock sending unit.

[1967BuickGS400]

Thanks for the info.

[gm4life]

any new news have you been driving it racing it ?????????

[buick46270]

any new news have you been driving it racing it ?????????

every time we go to the track we get about a tenth faster with tuning
last outing was a few weeks ago and it went 7.60 at 99 still at 3900#'s

this week we swapped on my new wheels and tires and lost 40 lbs, and are going to install the rear discs next week which might lose around another 20 lbs.

We have a car show this weekend but next week we are finally sending the converter out to get loosened up and if everything goes right itll be in the high 6's no problem.

stay tuned in a few more weeks and ill update with the converter change.

[buick46270]

small update from the car show this weekend....23mpg on the the interstate on the way home and dyno'd 476hp in 101 degree heat :3gears:

[gm4life]

23mpg cooool what rear axle

[buick46270]

23mpg cooool what rear axle

axle or gear? its a stock 8.5 corparate 10 bolt minus 3.73 gears installed a few years ago

[gm4life]

3.73 and 23 mpg the truck that motor came out of couldnt get that with a 30 mph tail wind great job glad to here you driving it cant wait to see what it does in the 1/4 mile

[breakinbuick11]

I just read all 6 pages. very cool build, cant wait to see the quarter times.

Louie

[buick46270]

the first time the new setup went to the track it was at Beach Bend.

2.3 60 fts 8.0 8th mi. and 12.0 in the 1/4 mi.

i have a 8th mi track 15min from my house so thats where im usually at. Since BB ive cut my 60's down to 1.9-2.0 60 fts and 7.6 in the 8th

im prob heading back to BB this sat so see what it does now in the 1/4


im still waiting on some money so that i can get my converter changed, that will make a big difference but ill just have wo wait and see how much

[1967BuickGS400]

23 mpg is great. I hope I can get that with my build. Im running a 6 speed in mine. Im going to be dropping in a LQ4 this winter. I also have a whipple supercharger to bolt to it that I use to run on a 2000 pickup. When I sold the truck the guy didnt want the charger so I kept it. I would like to do a turbo set up but I dont have the money to do that right now.

[speedtigger]

Spectacular project. I am anxious to get my LQ9 in there. I have got everything coming except for the JZ Motorworks oil pan and the Edelbrock motor mounts.

Did your steering clear the pan?

[buick46270]

23 mpg is great. I hope I can get that with my build. Im running a 6 speed in mine. Im going to be dropping in a LQ4 this winter. I also have a whipple supercharger to bolt to it that I use to run on a 2000 pickup. When I sold the truck the guy didnt want the charger so I kept it. I would like to do a turbo set up but I dont have the money to do that right now.

the turbo i nice in that once your setup is done you can just keep turning up the boost and not have to change pullys like on a supercharger or have to worry about belt slippage.

and that whipple will be nice, i was going to do a whipple on mine but couldnt find one at a good price when i was ready to buy and start the build.

[buick46270]

Spectacular project. I am anxious to get my LQ9 in there. I have got everything coming except for the JZ Motorworks oil pan and the Edelbrock motor mounts.

Did your steering clear the pan?

i have the milidon oil pan and custom mounts, idk about the JZ pan

[gm4life]

did you go to bb this weekend any new 1/4 mile times and speed speed is what i would like to know 60 ft times are nice but the speed will show how she pulls on the big end

[buick46270]

did you go to bb this weekend any new 1/4 mile times and speed speed is what i would like to know 60 ft times are nice but the speed will show how she pulls on the big end

No BB this weekend, they had the diesel drags that got rained out earlier this year.

Prev at BB it hit 99mph in the 8th and 123 in the 1/4...so far we havnt added any power, just trying to get the 60's and et down and then well start adding more boost later in the year

and those passes were at 3885#s

[buick46270]

well brakes are finally on and the converter is off getting re-stalled so ill be able to take off with more boost and get the 60's and et's down finally

[buick46270]

well after dealing with a bad converter business everything is finally rolling agian.

Took it to the track friday night and i finally have some new best times for this setup!!!

1.72 60ft Left the line with 6lbs of boost at 3000rpm
7.24 8th
@ 97 mph

Previous best pass before the converter swap was a...
1.97 60ft Leaving the line with 2.5 lbs at 2300rpm
7.64 8th

SO, not to shabby for a converter swap:TU:

The next pass after the 7.24 we turned the 2-step up 100rpm which made 6.4lbs on the line and it blew the tires off atleast half way down the track. In i few weeks ill be getting some MT dr's and getting the times down just a little further.

All this is still on 8lbs of boost and 364ci:grin:

[speedtigger]

In i few weeks ill be getting some MT dr's and getting the times down just a little further.:

What tires are you running now?

[buick46270]

running the nitto555r drag radial, they last twice as long as the MT's on regular street driving, but MT's will always have more traction

275-60-15's on a 10in wheel

[speedtigger]

running the nitto555r drag radial, they last twice as long as the MT's on regular street driving, but MT's will always have more traction

275-60-15's on a 10in wheel

I feel better. I thought you were gonna tell me you ran those numbers on sears radials or something. LOL

[buick46270]

My tuner got a video of the pass too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZnCIJ7pYFU

[speedtigger]

My tuner got a video of the pass too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZnCIJ7pYFU

Damn. Why did you have to show me that?! The whistle of the turbo on the line is intoxicating. Reminds me of the GN days. That car motors hard and it does not even sound like it is working hard. That is gonna be a monster when you wick it up.

[buick46270]

lol, i can barely hear the turbo spooling in the car over the 2-step, but when i saw the video i like it too :grin:

and your right about the motor not struggling to hard, YET, im going to get it to 7.0 or 6.9 with the same tune/boost that im on now, and in a few weeks were going to turn it up to 10lbs of boost, then later on this year it will see 12lbs, still on pump gas, and should be easy 6.5's or so....

[gm4life]

LOOKIN GREAT very nice improvemet just sitting on the edge of my chair waiting for more boost and slicks please :eek2:

[buick46270]

LOOKIN GREAT very nice improvemet just sitting on the edge of my chair waiting for more boost and slicks please :eek2:

I did have some extra rims with slicks but i sold them a few weeks ago:Dou: .

Im ordering the MT drag radials tomorow, but im still going to try to get a lil faster on these nitto's first. And boost will get turned up 2lbs after the first track outing with the MT drag radials...ive been 1.55 60ft with those tires on my car and i know they can go faster so i prob wont buy anymore slicks till next year

And i wish this car would hurry up and be faster sooner but yea it just takes time and lil improvements...
8lbs, 3000 stall, no 2-step, 2300 on foot brake = 8.0
8lbs, 3000 stall, 2-step at 2300 on foot brake = 7.64
8lbs, 3600 stall, 2-step at 3000 on foot brake = 7.24....so far :laugh:

o yea, also got the new rear discs on with the higher stall, they def. hold alot better, no push at all...pump the brakes twice with the first bulb on, roll into the 2nd bulb, mash the brake and gas...turbo spools, and LAUNCH

[gm4life]

watching that vid made me think about the gn of the ft brake 15lbs of boost the front tires would start to skid and wooooosh she off.

hearing that sound comming from your car blistering down the track

a little old school mixed with new school hp cant get any better .... i lied ...... yes it can just gotta turn up the boost ................

i have a 2010 challenger at the shop doing an sts rear mounted twin turbo kit 7 lbs cant wait to fire it up should be done sometime next week

ill be waiting for the next update

:3gears:

[buick46270]

watching that vid made me think about the gn of the ft brake 15lbs of boost the front tires would start to skid and wooooosh she off.

hearing that sound comming from your car blistering down the track

a little old school mixed with new school hp cant get any better .... i lied ...... yes it can just gotta turn up the boost ................

i have a 2010 challenger at the shop doing an sts rear mounted twin turbo kit 7 lbs cant wait to fire it up should be done sometime next week

ill be waiting for the next update

:3gears:

at our shop theres a new challenger there waiting for a procharger going on, it should be cool as well....i like the car but they are HUGE, bigger than our old cars lol

and i should be going to bowling green tomorow, so hopefully ill get some better 1/8th mile times...still on nittos but bg should hook better than my local track, but atleast ill get some new 1/4 mile times

[buick46270]

well, untill i turn my boost up some im stuck on getting a better 60ft...anywhere from 3100-3600 on the 2-step it stops at 6.5lbs on the foot brake so i know that is where my waste gate is starting to crack open. When we turn it up to 10lbs the WG will crack open later and ill be able to get more boost on the brake and better 60's and ets like usual.

tonight i got it down to 7.19 and stuck at 1.71 60's, Nitto 555r's still not spinning with a good burn out :grin: ...MT's will be on there along with 10lbs of boost in 2 weeks at BB, i got told not to come back till i get a fire jacket and helmet at my local track :spank:

[K0K0]

well, untill i turn my boost up some im stuck on getting a better 60ft...anywhere from 3100-3600 on the 2-step it stops at 6.5lbs on the foot brake so i know that is where my waste gate is starting to crack open. When we turn it up to 10lbs the WG will crack open later and ill be able to get more boost on the brake and better 60's and ets like usual.

tonight i got it down to 7.19 and stuck at 1.71 60's, Nitto 555r's still not spinning with a good burn out :grin: ...MT's will be on there along with 10lbs of boost in 2 weeks at BB, i got told not to come back till i get a fire jacket and helmet at my local track :spank:
Your track let you race with no helmet?
Jamie

[buick46270]

Your track let you race with no helmet?
Jamie

NHRA rules, unless they changed it this year, you dont need a helmet till 7.30 et, i dont know what it is for the fire jacket but i assume its the same since i got told both

[buick46270]

well, just got back from BB...not to bad of a night :grin:
drove 1hr 20min there, 1hr back lol

1.740 1.739 60's
7.113 7.096 8th
99.2 100.19 mph
11.06 11.04 1/4
124.28 124.46 mph

still on 8lbs and my nitto's are now shot, they only lasted 1600 miles:3gears:

[speedtigger]

drove 1hr 20min there, 1hr back lol
11.06 11.04 1/4
124.28 124.46 mph

This right here is what makes your project so great.

[buick46270]

This right here is what makes your project so great.

thanks man, it is nice and so far no problems out of the motor at all...and one thing i also really like is i have absolutely NO oil leaks anywhere, one problem i always had with my buick motors.

This week my car is going back to the shop and going up to 10lbs of boost as well at getting the MT's on. Ill get back to the 8th mile track that fri, and the 1/4 in two weeks, so more better updates will be coming.:laugh:

[buick46270]

also i think i might have to go ahead and upgrade the axles and gears sooner than i thought.

At 124mph where im at now, im crossing the stripe at 6000 rpm, and my limiter is at 6200 rpm...so when i go to 10lbs next week my next trip to the 1/4 will most likely have me on the limiter:mad:

Also i finally bent my my 40 yr old axles about 2 weeks ago, so i guess ill just go ahead and replace them with some stronger ones, and change my gear to a 3.42 unit, which would take me to 136mph untill i needed another gear change:cool:

[buick46270]

Sometime next year when i can afford to get forged rods and pistons this motor will be seing about 7000rpm!!! which would then allow me to hit 160 in 3rd gear...if that gives you any clue as to what type of power i want out of this bitch

[speedtigger]

Sometime next year when i can afford to get forged rods and pistons this motor will be seing about 7000rpm!!! which would then allow me to hit 160 in 3rd gear...if that gives you any clue as to what type of power i want out of this bitch

I have no doubt I will hear a sonic boom come from your direction before it is all said and done LOL.

[buick46270]

I have no doubt I will hear a sonic boom come from your direction before it is all said and done LOL.

as long as that boom isnt the motor lol. One of my last upgrades will be the trans, which will be a $3500-$4000 unit, ouch, ill be going to events like the texas mile and maxton mile going for my 200mph jacket :laugh: , but that will probably be 2 years away

[buick46270]

one of the guys on another forum im on posted up a video of one of the 11.0x passes sat, just a ok vid on an I-phone...his friend is susposed to get me a better one taken by an actual camera and ill post that up when i get it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQe_Mgl3nQ

and yes...it is a mopar KILL, all the buick people on here should still enjoy this lol

[speedtigger]

one of the guys on another forum im on posted up a video of one of the 11.0x passes sat, just a ok vid on an I-phone...his friend is susposed to get me a better one taken by an actual camera and ill post that up when i get it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQe_Mgl3nQ

and yes...it is a mopar KILL, all the buick people on here should still enjoy this lol

It is hard to tell due to the quality of the video, but it looks like the Mopar was staged with his back tires. You could have gave him 10 cars and his move and it wouldn't have mattered. LOL

[buick46270]

Took my car back to the tuner this week for 1 more pound of boost and just check the tune over to see if there were any areas that could be improved on....

....Car now has 515rwhp on just 9lbs :laugh: ....now im heading to bowling green in the morning to get a new best et hopefully

[buick46270]

just for comparison sake, 9psi on a dyno dynamics = 515 rwhp, the same 9psi tune on a dyno jet netted my 550 rwhp:beer ....hero numbers lol

[Turbo455]

Actually the NHRA rule page 20.38 is that Full face helmet at 9.9 or quicker 1/4 mile and a Snell Sa2000 or equivalent for cars faster than 13.99 1/4 which is 8.60 1/8. Also NHRA rules for about 3 years now page 4.8 has stated that if you have any power adders that are not stock you must have a fire jacket event if your et is 2 minutes at 5 MPH. That means that a stock turbo WRX needs no jacket but our after market turbo's bump us into the same category as the N20 guys.

How much boost was you able to get on the starting line before 2 step. Also do you think it was the new brakes or the 2 step that allowed you to get 6psi on the line. I can only get a half of pound of boost on the line. If I could get 6 that would fix my slow short track numbers. That would turn my 7.60 8th into a 7.20 and my 11.60 quarter into possibly a 10.99999. If this would work for me then I wouldn't have to worry about putting in a TB and breaking stuff.

Good stuff. I guess this would be a good reason to get the new 6al-2 programmable with boost reference.

[buick46270]

How much boost was you able to get on the starting line before 2 step. Also do you think it was the new brakes or the 2 step that allowed you to get 6psi on the line..

before the 2-step @2300 rpm i could build basically no boost -1lb lol.
after the 2-step @2300 rpm i could build 2.5-2.8
then we loosened the converter up to where i could foot brake 3k and that gets me 6.8psi on the line now which is only limited by my WG opening up, if i ran more boost i could build more boost at the same rpm


what can you foot brake to?

[Turbo455]

when I was on stock stall last year, I couldn't build any either. Then This year with the 3000 switch pitch I think I can get 1 pound at 2000rpm then she wants to push me through the tree.

[buick46270]

the stall is whats killing you and keeping you from building boost then...but it also will make insta boost on the street though from a roll

[nekkidhillbilly]

horrible

no i like it. and for all the haters how is it wrong to put a lsx engine in a buick since buick offered one in there lacrosse and will be in the park avenue thats comming. i love buick power but i think we go overboard. i cant see doing a sbc or bbc when the sbb/bbb are better engine but lsx is a class all its own.

[gm4life]

been a while any new updates

[jay3000]

I did have some extra rims with slicks but i sold them a few weeks ago:Dou: .

Im ordering the MT drag radials tomorow, but im still going to try to get a lil faster on these nitto's first. And boost will get turned up 2lbs after the first track outing with the MT drag radials...ive been 1.55 60ft with those tires on my car and i know they can go faster so i prob wont buy anymore slicks till next year

And i wish this car would hurry up and be faster sooner but yea it just takes time and lil improvements...
8lbs, 3000 stall, no 2-step, 2300 on foot brake = 8.0
8lbs, 3000 stall, 2-step at 2300 on foot brake = 7.64
8lbs, 3600 stall, 2-step at 3000 on foot brake = 7.24....so far :laugh:

o yea, also got the new rear discs on with the higher stall, they def. hold alot better, no push at all...pump the brakes twice with the first bulb on, roll into the 2nd bulb, mash the brake and gas...turbo spools, and LAUNCH

Wow.. I don't feel so bad with my 8.20 1.9 60 now... I gotta get a 2 step..


7.24 is bad assed.:TU:

[buick46270]

been a while any new updates

yea, just been busy working a ton of overtime saving up some money to waste this winter lol.

I cant remember if i posted it up or not but i wet 7.09 and 11.04 on 8lbs..
Then we turned up the boost to 9lbs and changed to some stiffer rear springs before heading to BB and i lost all traction so the last few weeks have been alot of working on the car to fix that and everything else needed.....

...did a full front end rebuild kit, replaced all body mounts, put back in original springs, and installed a rear anti roll bar (should make a huge difference)

Next fri is the last fri night race for my local track, and that sat will the last sat race i can make for the year since deer season is now finally here, Im going for a 6.9 sec pass friday and if i dont get that i wont bother going to BB.


AND NOW!!!!!:beer :beer i have already got a forged motor getting put together and next year she will see 16-18 psi next year

[buick46270]

a friends shop dyno day, dyno jet chassis dyno.....562 hp, 573 torque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCipOhBYnaI

[Turbo455]

a friends shop dyno day, dyno jet chassis dyno.....562 hp, 573 torque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCipOhBYnaI

So is that about 650 at the crank?

[buick46270]

So is that about 650 at the crank?

there is no real way to know, but idk enough to really tell you...just depends on how much power is eaten up through the driveline and how much slip your torque converter has.......i would guess 650-700 though

[Turbo455]

i would guess 650-700 though

I would agree. What size are your turbo's

[buick46270]

I would agree. What size are your turbo's

just one turbo....75mm, t6 flange, 83mm turbine wheel, 1.10 ar

this turbo will prob support me to around 750rwhp, then ill upgrade to a 80mm unit after that if im brave enough lol

[buick46270]

Just got home from racing...got me a 6.91 at 102 tonight.....and I also broke my rear end, and either the trans or converter lol

I guess that just means that the winter build is going to start a little bit early

[speedtigger]

Jbroke my rear end, and either the trans or converter lol

I guess that just means that the winter build is going to start a little bit early

Sounds like a forced upgrade to me.:pp

[buick46270]

Sounds like a forced upgrade to me.:pp

not a bad one though, i already have a pretty new engine built and waiting to go in the car, and my axles were already bent and needed to be replaced anyways, last night and today at BG were going to be my last 2 races for the year, they just couldnt make it.

[buick46270]

well, i tore the rear apart today and I ended up shattering the posi case....so its time for some 35 spline axles, full spool, and 3.42 gears

[Turbo455]

Just got home from racing...got me a 6.91 at 102 tonight.....and I also broke my rear end, and either the trans or converter lol

I guess that just means that the winter build is going to start a little bit early

Sorry to hear about the carnage but...... 6.91 at 102 is not enough info. 60'? boost? Start line RPM? What gears you running? 6.91 at 102 has to be mid 10' in the quarter.

[speedtigger]

6.91 at 102 has to be mid 10' in the quarter.

Probably closer to 10.80

[buick46270]

Probably closer to 10.80

yep yep, correct


Sorry to hear about the carnage but...... 6.91 at 102 is not enough info. 60'? boost? Start line RPM? What gears you running? 6.91 at 102 has to be mid 10' in the quarter.


60' was 1.61, 9lbs of boost, 2800rpm launch, 3.73 gears....since i broke the rear its going to 3.42 gears....and about 18lbs of boost next year:beers2:

and take in mind that my peak torque is 5000rpm, so with the new motor this winter, ported heads, and much bigger cam the car should launch much better and run a better et and mph next year on the same boost

[Turbo455]

Probably closer to 10.80

I would agree if his MPH was 99.? but 102 tells me his quarter is going to be faster than the conversion. Who knows:Do No:. Any way you look at it 10.5 or 10.80 thats very good on 9psi.

[buick46270]

I would agree if his MPH was 99.? but 102 tells me his quarter is going to be faster than the conversion. Who knows:Do No:. Any way you look at it 10.5 or 10.80 thats very good on 9psi.

....for 3900 lbs lol

since i trashed my rear end and trans at the same time im going to go ahead and make them both bullet proof, which unfortunately means that i got rid of the motor :ball:

I ordered a s60 rear end and having my 4l80 built up with a trans brake, so some t.b. launches even on the same power level should get me a lil better et if i can hook

[1967BuickGS400]

Are you still running stock internals in this engine? Also what cam are you running?

[buick46270]

Are you still running stock internals in this engine? Also what cam are you running?

yep, still a stock motor and just another stock ls6 cam

[speedtigger]

yep, still a stock motor and just another stock ls6 cam

It is a beautiful thing isn't it? We have an endless supply of cheap racing long-blocks at our local salvage yard. It is like the 70s again - only faster.

[buick46270]

It is a beautiful thing isn't it? We have an endless supply of cheap racing long-blocks at our local salvage yard. It is like the 70s again - only faster.

sure it :beer ....i picked my motor up for 1k, then spent 180 on stock replacement ls6 springs and cam, some hardened push rods, and arp rod bolts,,,,so i think i have around 1400 total in my motor lol

if i have any money left over this winter im going to add a better cam and a different intake, My trans and rear are on the way and i still have to get the cars frame notched, mini tubbed, roll cage installed, and the car painted:Dou:

[gm4life]

been to busy to check in here and see how it has been going for you..... congrads on the progress and sorry for the loss of parts seeems like alot of those parts needed upgrade anyways. car sounds great on the dyno :TU: very promising for the rest of us that are going to upgrade to modern power for our daily drivers/race car

[buick46270]

been to busy to check in here and see how it has been going for you..... congrads on the progress and sorry for the loss of parts seeems like alot of those parts needed upgrade anyways. car sounds great on the dyno :TU: very promising for the rest of us that are going to upgrade to modern power for our daily drivers/race car

thanks man, its been a long road and it isnt over yet, i doubt ill get it to the track again this year but i just want to see what et itll pick up with launching on the trans brake :3gears:

[73-462GS]

I would venture .2-.3 pickup. Peace, Mike D.

[buick46270]

I would venture .2-.3 pickup. Peace, Mike D.

overall or 60'?

before the breakage it ran 6.91 and 10.8, even just .3 off the overall would give me a 10.5 1/4 mile with just 9psi and 3900lb pig

[gm4life]

you are a better man than me would not have the restraint to not turn the boost up to 15 psi cant wait till i get my set up together

[buick46270]

you are a better man than me would not have the restraint to not turn the boost up to 15 psi cant wait till i get my set up together

lol, i want to turn it up but im trying to get this painted in the spring and if i turn it up to 15 psi its a time bomb:Dou:

[buick46270]

:beer well the weather sucks here, its hunting season, and all the tracks are closed.....the 6 point cage, frame notch, and mini tubs have begun

[buick46270]

say hello to my new intake :laugh: , kinda like a mini tunnel ram, itll be good for around 25rwhp with no other changes

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Sidewayz28/SDC17437.jpg

[speedtigger]

kinda like a mini tunnel ram
Mini? :laugh:

[buick46270]

Mini? :laugh:

well its not "true" tunnel ram, but basically a tunnel ram with a single throttle body and the intake height wise is barely taller than my current truck intake

but it def will look nicer than the ugly truck intake...still havnt gotten around to buying a bigger cam yet, i want to see what this intake picks up by itself and if it raises my peak rpm. The truck intake peaks and levels off my hp at 5500 rpm but my current ls6 cam should peak at 6000-6200, well see what happens

[K0K0]

Sweeeeeet intake :TU:
Jamie

[1967BuickGS400]

Are you going to try a turbo cam?

[buick46270]

Are you going to try a turbo cam?

when i get around to it yes....just dont know if ill get an off the shelf turbo cam, there 2 or 3 really good off the shelf ones, or maybe ill get a custom one made for my setup specifically

either way with the new intake, and cam (whenever i get it) the car will be atleast 600 rwhp on the same 9lbs of boost that im currently running, and making 560 rwhp

now only to decide if i want a rowdy cam or get one with a wide lsa and try to make it sound as quiet as possible for the stealth factor

[Nick A.]

Quick question on that Edelbrock intake. Can it easily be installed backwards on the engine as well as forward? We're planning our next motor and need a rear facing intake.
TIA

Nick

[buick46270]

Quick question on that Edelbrock intake. Can it easily be installed backwards on the engine as well as forward? We're planning our next motor and need a rear facing intake.
TIA

Nick

I'm sure that it can, I know you can turn the stock car intakes around backwards so there's no reason you shouldn't be able to with this one...

[Nick A.]

Thanks for the info. Looks like a nice addition to the parts list for our next motor. Our car uses a mid engine setup so it requires a rear face setup or an "Old School carb style intake"

[buick46270]

Well I went ahead and got a custom spec cam for my setup... I wanted to wait just to see what type of gains it had alone, but it's better, for me anyways just to do it all at once.

Also got all my turbo piping and turbo itself nitro plated with a thermal coating..I'll get sone pics up after new years

[buick46270]

O yea, 600 rwhp here I come...stock long block minus cam and still 9 lbs. :moonu: :moonu:

[K0K0]

Well I went ahead and got a custom spec cam for my setup... I wanted to wait just to see what type of gains it had alone, but it's better, for me anyways just to do it all at once.

Also got all my turbo piping and turbo itself nitro plated with a thermal coating..I'll get sone pics up after new years
New years is to far away we need pics sooner.
Jamie

[buick46270]

Lol, pics will cone soon enough... Going on a 8 day hunting trip:kodak:

[buick46270]

waited almost 2 months on the trans, finally got here friday and that the last thing we were waiting on to get it finished up. Still have to change a lil bit of wiring, add some new wiring, and then get a new tune for the intake i bought.

its a never ending project

[sailbrd]

its a never ending project

And your point is? :laugh:

[buick46270]

And your point is? :laugh:

this hobby is expensive...but worth it

[1967BuickGS400]

Just wondering if you had any more updates. I wanted to start my swap this winter but i bought a 71 skylark this fall so i have be putting money into that instead of my 67.

[buick46270]

Just wondering if you had any more updates. I wanted to start my swap this winter but i bought a 71 skylark this fall so i have be putting money into that instead of my 67.

the cage is in and painted, new trans and rear are in, and new intake on and running. right now it just has to have the front interier back in and get tuned for the new intake.

I decided to get rid of the rear seats as well so those are for sale....a sheet of metal is going to block off the trunk and go down to the floor and have some carpeting put over it to make everything look clean and blend in.

Then in the future when i put in the nitrous it will go in the floor right behind the seats for easy access to turn it on and off whenever i need it.

[buick46270]

sorry these pics are so bad, my bulldog destroyed my good camera so i had to use a little cheap one for these pics...when i get my car back ill borow a camera to get some real good pics


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[buick46270]

dana 60 rear with 3.54 gears
built 4l80 with trans brake
6 point cage with swingout/ removeable door bars
mini tubs
frame notch
tci 2 button outlaw shifter
intake
manifolds, turbo hotside, turbo exh. housing, and turbo down pipe were all coated by Nitro Plate with a hight temp thermal barrier/dispersant coating
turbo blanket

...i think that's all of the mods since the last race past year when i broke the final night of racing lol

the coating on all the turbo stuff and the turbo blanket will retain the heat in much better than before keeping underhood temps much lower, and also make the car spool faster by a couple hundred rpm's or so

[speedtigger]

It has turned into a monster!

[buick46270]

It has turned into a monster!

lol, its still a stock long block so well see how long it lasts...after my tuner gets it tuned for the new intake we are going to put in some 110 gas and turn up the boost 3-4lbs which should be worth around 100 more rwhp :laugh:

[buick46270]

stopped by the shop this morning to order some parts and measure some things on the car....they already had it up on the dyno so hopefully this evening or tomorow ill have the results :laugh:

right when i left they started doing their first pulls and it was real lean, which means the new intake is flowing alot more air and it was up exactly 50rwhp down in the midrange....midrange isnt going to help me at the track but is going to make it that much more fun on the street

[1967BuickGS400]

keep us posted.

[buick46270]

....more tuning/trouble shooting will be required tomorow. Before with the truck intake right at 5500rpm my power would just level off, and now with the new intake it falls off hard after 5500

going to try to add some more timing after peak torque higher in the rpm band and that should hopefully cure the problem...we will see

[buick46270]

forgot to add, with the new intake flowing alot better than the truck style were down around 7.5lbs of boost now instead of 9...it will get turned back up to 9 :laugh:

[1967BuickGS400]

Did you find out why the engine was dropping off at 5500?

[buick46270]

Did you find out why the engine was dropping off at 5500?

Yes it's the stock ls6 cam...I looked up a bunch of setups and all the turbo guys with this cam were all done by 5500-5600 no matter what intake. My new intake flow good to 7k+ but I'm going to wait a month or so to swap cams...I'll be getting the car back this weekend and want to enjoy it for a lil while before I do more work

[buick46270]

And of course I'll post up dyno numbers if it doesn't blow up lol

[dpcp66]

I like the set up but would have gone witha GN. anyway looking good. my question is what elevation are you at?? the rear numbers for your car and Ets area little low for my area(120ft). not taking anything away its just I have had cars make 450/ 470 rear horse and weight in at 3700-4200 and run in the high 10s(1070sad 1080s) If its the elevation then I understand. I hope to do a LS mtr to a 72 elcamino I am looking at. so i like the build just I wuldnt have done it witha buick but its your car at the end of the day and men have fought and died for your right. trully enjoy it.

Doug

[buick46270]

I like the set up but would have gone witha GN. anyway looking good. my question is what elevation are you at?? the rear numbers for your car and Ets area little low for my area(120ft). not taking anything away its just I have had cars make 450/ 470 rear horse and weight in at 3700-4200 and run in the high 10s(1070sad 1080s) If its the elevation then I understand. I hope to do a LS mtr to a 72 elcamino I am looking at. so i like the build just I wuldnt have done it witha buick but its your car at the end of the day and men have fought and died for your right. trully enjoy it.

Doug
What were the mph of those runs? Et is alot todo with your 60ft...

With 515rwhp at 3900 lbs it ran 6.91 @ 102 which would be equal to 10.80's. And anyone around dynos will tell you they are just numbers, I have 2 friends that own dynos and my car will be 515 on one and 562 on the other....I could find another dyno that gives me more, or less too

[buick46270]

Also what were the 60's??? Mine was 1.61 for the 6.91 pass

Obv the Buick motors make tired alot lower in the power band which helps get all the weight moving, my 464 had 700ft lbs at 3300rpm...this new motor makes peak torque at 5000...takes a mob to get moving lol

[buick46270]

Well, the car is done for this round of mods and I'll get to pick it back up tomorow...it'll prob be a week or so before I can get it back to the dyno jet to compare my numbers from last year though :mad:

[1967BuickGS400]

keep us posted. I have been wondering how it was going.

[buick46270]

well another delay...just on the dyno numbers though. Finally have the car home but my "street" wheels and tires wont fit on the rear anymore, aparently the new rear is a little wider than my previous one even though it was susposed to be "stock" length

so untill i get the money to buy another whole set of wheels again im running my street wheels up front and the drag wheels out back lol

[buick46270]

Headed up to BG tomorow for some hopefully better times, just need to beat 11.1 and 125

I just bought a house so this will prob be my only trip to the 1/4 mile this year, everything else will be 1/8 mile

[buick46270]

Well, I ended up getting a 10.84 @ 126 with a stupid loose converter; only was dropping 100-200 rpm between shifts. Once I get the converter re-stalled I'll lose a few tenths and gain a few mph no problem....

BUT I just bought a house so it might be a few months till I get to fix the converter. Good news is that the car hooks off a 4k trans brake launch at full boost lol, threw me back pretty good and was violent, awesome :TU:

[Turbo455]

How much boost did you have on the starting line? What was the 60'? How far did the front tires lift? O' yeah, you suck and I'm jealous:beer

[buick46270]

How much boost did you have on the starting line? What was the 60'? How far did the front tires lift? O' yeah, you suck and I'm jealous:beer

Lol, nothing to be jealous about. I left with 9lbs and I'm sure it didn't lift a wheel lol, and the 60's were only 1.6x

I've gotten better 60's fiotbraking before....I'm just pushing through the converter way to hard and I don't know why, just know what the problem is. On the street last night my converter wouldn't start catching/ holding till 4500 so it's probably toast

[Torsdalen]

After 6 years of owning this car its been rightfully named the BITCH

short video of it running, cheap camera but good enough.
http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view¤t=P1010131.flv (http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/?action=view&current=P1010131.flv)

2 step and pcm behind drivers headlight.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010126.jpg

Big ass -an lines, the meziere pump for this is really quiet (can barely hear even with motor off) but flows ALOT of volume.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010124.jpg

Painted all the old wheels black, much better than the fading and rusting chrome.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010123.jpg

All the new guages! I def. like them and they are really bright.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm84/buick46270/P1010134.jpg

Hi ! Awesome car you have !
Please tell me where i can buy a aluminium "radiator top plate" (the one with 5 holes) like you have. Or maybe you fabricated the plate yourself ?

[buick46270]

The guy who does my fabrication made that top plate for me

[buick46270]

Tested the converter the other night and in getting 16% slip....just a lil to much lol

[Turbo455]

That's too bad regarding the torque converter. But 9 psi on the line is great. It looks like the 2 step is the ticket to getting these turbo cars to launch. Jay3000 is having good results using a 2 step on his little 350.

[buick46270]

theres other tricks to get turbos to spool really well with efi, but with any engine a 2-step is by far the easiest and will help spool just about anything....no ignition and all the raw fuel heats up and spools them in a second :3gears:

[buick46270]

Old converter sold and new billet lockup on the way...with the new converter I can lock it up under WOT so it'll have 0 slip and pull some better mph and reduce trans temps as well, specially for the mile runs

[buick46270]

Changed the shocks to 70/30 in the rear and just got 6.91 @ 102 off the TB at 3100. 1.63 60' not spinning

TB at 4100 just got me 6.87 @ 103 with a 1.59 60' spinning all of first gear.

I've got some new tires coming in Thursday so maybe it'll hook then :)

[speedtigger]

That is good MPH for 9PSI. This thing will be a real monster when you get toward 15psi.

[buick46270]

That is good MPH for 9PSI. This thing will be a real monster when you get toward 15psi.

That's a good mph for 3900 lbs lol. I might get brave and turn up the boost later this year but I bought a house and I don't want to blow it up, money is tight now.

[buick46270]

Just a lil update lol, 609 rwhp :)