D&S Performance (DAN SMITH) Buick 455!

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... I FINALLY PAID FOR MY '73 BUICK 455 BUILT BY MR. DANIEL SMITH OF D&S PERFORMANCE (CAMDEN, NJ)! THIS MAN IS "THE MAN" WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING ... MOTORS. HIS KNOWLEDGE OF BUICK'S 455 REMINDS ME OF SCOTTY AT PEE-GEE's. I WILL POST PHOTOS OF MY "D&S 462BUICK" AND THE '87 SPECIAL-T REGAL IT WENT IN NEXT MONTH AT www.nas-tech-engineering.com LATA!

[DaWildcat]

Please post pics when you can!

Also, please turn "caps lock" on your keyboard off, unless you meant to shout at us! :TU:

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

OH GOD! I DIDN'T MEAN TO SHOUT AT "BUICK DAWGS" ... I AM OCD ON AXIS-2 ... I AM "OBSESSED" WITH WRITING & TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks for the "attention to detail." HAVE A GOOD NIGHT ... AND I PROMISE TO POST THE PICS. DAN GAVE ME TA PERFORMANCE'S "TA413" CAM (will post cam card later tonight ... my girlfriend/wife/same-crap made me agree to post ALL pics when motor is in car). THANKS AGAIN.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Good morning all.

I made an attempt at attaching my cam-card ... hope it shows.

Lata.:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

New Site Logo Design.
Have A Great Weekend All.:tu:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

UPDATE: I JUST ORDERED/HAD SHIPPED THE EDELBROCK-2146 ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD TO DAN SMITH. HE CALLED ME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO STATING THE STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLD WOULD CRACK DUE TO THE CAM AND EXHAUST HEAT CROSSOVER PORTS BEING BLOCKED. I NEVER LIKED THE ALUMINUM INTAKES LEFT THEIR NATURAL COLOR ... SO MY ORIGINAL 1997 PLANS FOR THE "462 SCOTTY BUILT" GO INTO PLAY NOW WITH SANDING OF THE EDELBROCK-BUICK455 LETERING, AND DAN IS PAINTING IT "BUICK455 RED." I FEEL STRONG. lol

[DaWildcat]

Your stock intake will not "crack" due to either the camshaft or the blocked exhaust crossover. Feel free to run either intake.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... NOOO, HE SAID THE STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS WOULD CRACK. I ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP THE STOCK BUICK 455 "INTAKE" AND RUN 12's. I GOT A LIL ANGRY AT FIRST WHEN HE TOLD ME I NEEDED TO SPEND $261-PLUS TAX/S&H, BUT THE WEIGHT LOSS AND PERFORMANCE GAIN (WITH THE LONG-STYLE TA PERFORMANCE HEADERS) MADE ME COME AROUND. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, AND I THINK MY CAPITAL LETTERING WAS THE REASON FOR THE MIS-READING. Lata.

[DaWildcat]

Ah, I misunderstood, but still haven't heard of exhaust manifolds cracking for those reasons either.

The edelbrock is worth it for the weight savings alone. Ask him if he's familiar with the usual plenum divider modification.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

THANKS MUCH. I WILL ASK HIM TOMORROW FOR SURE. IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR TO ME ... SOMETHING LIKE LIGHT BORE/SMOOTHING OUT OF THE PLENUMS AND TAKING A LITTLE OFF THE PLENUM DEVIDER? ... Guessimg here. lol I WILL ASK. THANKS AGAIN.

[NJBuickRacer]

Hope he did better on yours than he did for one of the guys in the club...

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/mid-atlantic-grand-national-association-magna/82402-you-have-got-s-ing-me.html

Your "Buick god" didn't do so hot on the machine work on that one.

[DaWildcat]

Yikes. If it's the same builder, the engine we're discussing here needs to come apart to have everything inspected.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... TWO THINGS: I AM SORRY THAT YOUR FRIEND HAD A BAD DEAL WITH DAN SMITH, WHO IN NO WAY IS MY "GOD... " NO "MAN" CAN EVER BE A "GOD" IN MY EYES. IT WAS HEAVILY SUGGESTED BY GREG HEARN (good friend) THAT I LET DAN BUILD MY MOTOR. GREG MENTIONED TODAY THAT DAN BUILT HIS 383-STROKER W/JUICE 12-YEARS AGO WITH NOOOOO PROBLEMS. GREG RACES AT ATCO & ENGLISHTOWN ... LIVES IN ALBANY, NY. DUE TO MY "OCD ON AXIX-3," I SECRETLY CHECKED EVERYTHING WITH SCOTTY AT PEE-GEE's & TOM AT TA-PERFORMANCE ... THEY EVERYTIME GAVE OVER-THE-PHONE THUMBS-UP. DAN HAS ALSO WORKED GREG'S 11-SECOND GN ... Again ... NOOOO PROBLEMS. IN CLOSING, MY-MAN-SCOTTY MADE A MISTAKE (that is all I will say) THAT HAD ME DRIVING THE REGAL TO HIM ... AND HIM REPLACING/REPAIRING THE ISSUE. THINGS HAPPEN. IN CLOSING, AGAIN ... SORRY THAT DAN SMITH HAS ANNOYED YOU. OH YEAH: DAN REFUSED TO PUT A "LUNATI" CAM IN MY 455 ... STATED THEY CAUSE ISSUES IN BUICK 455's ... TOM AT TA PERFORMANCE TOLD ME, "TRUE ... BUT NOT ANYMORE DUE TO A TA-PERFORMANCE COPY OF THE LUNATI(s) WITHOUT THE ISSUES." I HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT D&S PERFOR.ANCE. THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN, AND HAVE A PLEASANT NIGHT.

[APVGS]

CAPS OFF!!!..like this..:TU: Good thread though!! Later,Tony.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... THANKS, TONY. SORRY BOUT' THE CAPS ... I SUFFER FROM "OCD ON AXIS-3" ... I LEAVE CAPS ON WHEN TYPING ... Except for work. HAVE A GREAT DAY. PS ... YOUR BUICK LOOKS DEVASTATING. LATA.

[killrbuick66455]

i've ran a lunati cam for over 15 years haven't hada problem as of yet :Do No:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

i've ran a lunati cam for over 15 years haven't hada problem as of yet :Do No:

DID Dan Smith build your Buick 455???

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Dan just called my cell phone. He PROMISED me next SATURDAY pick up engine date. Either way, I go pick it up next week... AS A WHOLE OR IN PIECES!

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD!

[jjaguars84]

Dan just called my cell phone. He PROMISED me next SATURDAY pick up engine date. Either way, I go pick it up next week... AS A WHOLE OR IN PIECES!

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD!


UH OH! MORE PROMISES AGAIN! LETS HOPE THEY'RE REAL THIS TIME! CAPS LOCK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!! :blast: :blast: :blast:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

UH OH! MORE PROMISES AGAIN! LETS HOPE THEY'RE REAL THIS TIME! CAPS LOCK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!! :blast: :blast: :blast:


" ... LOLLL; TELL ME ABOUT IT!"

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

DAN SMITH JUST CALLED MY CELL PHONE!!!!:beer

I can go THIS Sunday morning and pick up my 1973 Buick 455 with TA290-08H cam, 1973 Buick 455 Rochester 4-bbl carb (totally rebuilt/rejetted), 1974 Buick 455 H.E.I. totally rebuilt, my new custom-built high-stall converter ... annnnd a brand new 1987 Buick GN front spoiler!!!!!:):):):)

SO-FAR-SOOOO-GOOD!!!!

[LADYINRED]

Does anyone have dan's #? is D&S still in business bc I can not find a number for the life of me..
Help!!

[DaWildcat]

Does anyone have dan's #? is D&S still in business bc I can not find a number for the life of me..
Help!!

Did you get hosed too? He's at 609-841-1552. Whether D&S is still in business or not, who knows.

Devon

[rack-attack]

I can go THIS Sunday morning and pick up my 1973 Buick 455 with TA290-08H cam, 1973 Buick 455 Rochester 4-bbl carb (totally rebuilt/rejetted), 1974 Buick 455 H.E.I. totally rebuilt, my new custom-built high-stall converter ... annnnd a brand new 1987 Buick GN front spoiler!!!!!:):):):)



Well........................

Did you get it??

[73-462GS]

OH NO NO RESPONSE!!!! I SURE hope he is busy putting it inthe car! Peace, Mike D.

[RegalBeagle]

I think one of them must be dead!!! For months he posts a message about every nut and bolt he buys for the thing and then the week he is promosed his engine he just drops off the faceof the earth and posts nothing.
The suspense is killing me!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[DaWildcat]

I think one of them must be dead!!! For months he posts a message about every nut and bolt he buys for the thing and then the week he is promosed his engine he just drops off the faceof the earth and posts nothing.
The suspense is killing me!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Congrats on a Poor entrance to V8Buick.

Four of my V8Buick buds ARE dead. Not something to be joking about, whether it's a supplier or a customer.

Compose yourself.

Devon

[RegalBeagle]

Congrats on a Poor entrance to V8Buick.

Four of my V8Buick buds ARE dead. Not something to be joking about, whether it's a supplier or a customer.

Compose yourself.

Devon

My apologies Devon. I'm sure we all have people who were close to us who have passed.
My comments were not meant to offend anyone. It was purely an off the cuff comment that apparently didn't appeal to your sense of humour or is it lack of sense of humour?

Beagle :confused:

[DaWildcat]

My apologies Devon. I'm sure we all have people who were close to us who have passed.
My comments were not meant to offend anyone. It was purely an off the cuff comment that apparently didn't appeal to your sense of humour or is it lack of sense of humour?

Beagle :confused:

Apology accepted, Beagle. I appreciate your taking the time to reply.

I'm guilty of "off-the-cuff" input all the time, and my sense of humor is well intact, it's just a bit dampened as of late.

I hope we see some positive news from the fellow.

Devon

[RegalBeagle]

Apology accepted, Beagle. I appreciate your taking the time to reply.

I'm guilty of "off-the-cuff" input all the time, and my sense of humor is well intact, it's just a bit dampened as of late.

I hope we see some positive news from the fellow.

Devon

Thanks Devon.

I too hope all is well with Stage2Torque and his engine builder. It just seems odd that we had a by the second play by play and then NOTHING!!!!
Hers hoping we hear some GREAT news very soon.

Cheers,

Beagle:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Thanks Devon.

I too hope all is well with Stage2Torque and his engine builder. It just seems odd that we had a by the second play by play and then NOTHING!!!!
Hers hoping we hear some GREAT news very soon.

Cheers,

Beagle:TU:


" ... TIS' DONE!" :beerLMATFOOOO!!!

[DaWildcat]

Can you post the build sheet so we can see how the tolerances came out?

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

" ... GENTLEMEN;

I have a personal-day off from work on June 30th, 2010 (This Wednesday:)) to drive to Dan Smith's Shop ... with "Jose'" the tow-truck/pick-up truck dude to GET MY COMPLETED D&S PERFORMANCE BUICK 462-V8 WITH TA290-08H CAM!:)

The purpose of my delay in actually picking it up weeks ago ... MY PRINCESS' H.S. PROM ($$$), and MY PRINCESS' H.S. GRADUATION (more $$$) Ceremony :beer.

Pics Dan sent me yesterday (per my request ... via his cell-phone-to-mine, with very poor pic quality).

Dan told me last week that he had ported the "exhaust" ports on the heads also (Scotty:beer did not do that for me.)

My girlfriend bought me the Nikon-D3000 as a Father's Day gift ... so I will be taking it to Dan's Wednesday morning.:beer

[trisheildfan]

Looks like it's painted Chebby orange:puzzled:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Can you post the build sheet so we can see how the tolerances came out?

Devon

If I remember to ask for it.
I never saw a build sheet in my life (lol). Pee-Gee's when in Brooklyn never mentioned/gave me one ... BUT THAT DAMN "455 That-Scotty-Built" for me beat the hell out of musty-stangs, 454Chevys, Corvettes, and a motorcycle (I know nada about them ... have no clue of the model).

I will ask for it in a text in around 20-minutes.:beers2:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Looks like it's painted Chebby orange:puzzled:

LOLLLL ... I know. I called him IMMEDIATELY after I got the pics text to me at work.:eek2:

I already have 3-cans of TA's Buick 455 Red.:beer

Due to my OCD (especially with detail), I repainted Pee-Gee's 455 the next day... and did touch-ups once weekly ... just like I'm gonna' do with this 455.

[bostongsx]

Are regular rockers recommended with that cam?

[DaWildcat]

Are regular rockers recommended with that cam?

Nope, though someone's probably tried it.

Devon

[kick71]

been in Camden County NJ for 12 years and have never heard of this guy:Do No: hope everything works out ok.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Are regular rockers recommended with that cam?

NO. Tim at TA Performance will explain to you also regarding having a "LOWER SEAT PRESSURE." Additionally, TA stated (I just called them to be SUPER-SURE ... my OCD ... lol) that MANY guys have run the TA290-08H cam with STOCK rockers/hardened rocker shaft ... for years with NO issues.:beer

[TheSilverBuick]

I just popped that cam in my engine yesterday, and I'm trying it out with the stamped steel rockers (after reading a few posts here). Hoping to fire it up tomorrow. Have to put it in the car after work today =P

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Well after reading that I wonder why the block was switched. Also if the guy is good why would you have to go back and have some thing corrected that should have been done right in the first place. I did not see a final update on that one either I wonder how the motor turned out.

I do have to question the Chevy orange though, what was that the only color available?
Honestly (as always on my end), when I was in Puerto Rico last month, Dan called me and told me my motor will be completed the 2nd week in June ... and he mentioned the "red" paint he has been using that all the guys like so much. I told my girlfriend as SOON as I hung up from Dan, that I am ordering from TA the Buick 455 Red paint/painting my motor "THE RIGHT WAY.":kodak: It cracks-me-up to see so much attention on the "color" ... even though I stated earlier in the posts that I repainted Scotty's 455 the next day also ... with Poston's Buick 455 Red ... which was like BLOOD lol. Color is COSMETICS ... and I hate easily-correctable cosmetic-issues.

I also have to question the situation where if you give someone a motor and you start to complain about it getting done then when you decide to go and get it because it isn't done then out of the clear blue sky it is all finished up and ready to go. I hope you got your original engine back.

LOL ... You have NOOOO CLUE what I put in Dan Smith's EARS & EYES:shock: ... LOL. I stopped the laughing with him and got legally-SERIOUS.

What happened to the TA 413 cam that was going to go in.
... that was considered months ago. Dan kept that cam ... and ordered the TA290-08H per MY and TA Performance's request. I actually called TA "after" Dan ordered the cam ... and got proof.

Hey, I totally understand a few things;

1. Dan screwed-up some guy's motor.
2. Dan pissed me off with the promises of my motor at earlier dates.
2A. Thank God my motor is ready for pick-up tomorrow morning.
3. I am NOT here to participate in "The Prosecution of Daniel Smith."
4. I pray to God my motor is good ... just like I did with Pee-Gee's.
5. You can TAKE the HORSE to the WATER ... but you CAN'T MAKE HIM DRINK IT.:laugh:

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.:3gears:

[Jim Weise]

Nope, though someone's probably tried it.

Devon


Ya, about half a dozen times..

Shafts can break, do a search on "roller rocker holddown" and you will see how we cured that problem with the more aggressive street cams.

JW

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I just popped that cam in my engine yesterday, and I'm trying it out with the stamped steel rockers (after reading a few posts here). Hoping to fire it up tomorrow. Have to put it in the car after work today =P

THE-MAN!!!:beer
I honestly pray that everything goes perfectly perfect on "fire-it-up-day.":3gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Ya, about half a dozen times..

Shafts can break, do a search on "roller rocker holddown" and you will see how we cured that problem with the more aggressive street cams.

JW

Mr. Weise, please be brutally honest with me (I heavily RESPECT your expertise); if I have a lower seat pressure (I have NO clue what the heck that is), Stage-1 valve springs, and the TA290-08H cam w/stock rockers but with TA's hardened rocker shafts ... Is my motor safe? Do you recommend my buying the roller-rocker assembly????:pray:

Thanks for your time.

[Jim Weise]

If you have hardened shafts you should be fine.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

If you have hardened shafts you should be fine.


"I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!:beers2:
I had this huge ball of anxiety about to explode my chest wide-open (the therapy for my "anxiety-issues" apparently were a waste of money and time (lolllll)! NOW I can actually ... sleep.:Dou:

Mr. Weise ... AGAIN; You-Are-Indeed ... A KING-OF-KINGS!!!:TU::TU:

Thank you adamantly.
Chris Swinson:)

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I just popped that cam in my engine yesterday, and I'm trying it out with the stamped steel rockers (after reading a few posts here). Hoping to fire it up tomorrow. Have to put it in the car after work today =P


Mr. Jim Weise said with the hardened rocker-shafts ... WE-GOOD!!!:TU::TU::beers2::TU::TU:

[DaWildcat]

Are regular rockers recommended with that cam?


Nope, though someone's probably tried it.

Devon

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the TA413 when I made that comment.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

been in Camden County NJ for 12 years and have never heard of this guy:Do No: hope everything works out ok.

Thanks MUCHO, my friend.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I think one of them must be dead!!! For months he posts a message about every nut and bolt he buys for the thing and then the week he is promosed his engine he just drops off the faceof the earth and posts nothing.
The suspense is killing me!!!!!!!:rolleyes:


LOLLL; Join-The-Club! lol
The suspense made me lose 3-pounds, and gain a few more strands of gray hair, Pal (lol).

Sometimes my OCD-on-Axis2 takes a vacation... this time in the form of (real-life-important-family-fun as in my Princess' H.S. Prom ... and the following week .. more $$$ lol) ... my Princess' High School Graduation Ceremony ... then the Graduation Party (I know some of you fellows know this oh-so-well ... lol) ... THEN THE FREAKING GIFT (again, $$$$) lol.

I actually was avoiding/not replying to even DAN's calls/text messages.:cool:

LOLLL, So-Far-So-Good!!!:3gears:

[RegalBeagle]

LOLLL; Join-The-Club! lol
The suspense made me lose 3-pounds, and gain a few more strands of gray hair, Pal (lol).

Sometimes my OCD-on-Axis2 takes a vacation... this time in the form of (real-life-important-family-fun as in my Princess' H.S. Prom ... and the following week .. more $$$ lol) ... my Princess' High School Graduation Ceremony ... then the Graduation Party (I know some of you fellows know this oh-so-well ... lol) ... THEN THE FREAKING GIFT (again, $$$$) lol.

I actually was avoiding/not replying to even DAN's calls/text messages.:cool:

LOLLL, So-Far-So-Good!!!:3gears:

Glad to hear all is well and very excited to see that your engine is going into your Regal very soon. Just keep the update coming. I don't watch Days of Our Lives anymore since I started checking on your threads dude. LOL!!!!



Beagle:laugh:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Glad to hear all is well and very excited to see that your engine is going into your Regal very soon. Just keep the update coming. I don't watch Days of Our Lives anymore since I started checking on your threads dude. LOL!!!!



Beagle:laugh:


LMATFOOO; My "girlfriend said the EXACT same (excuse the repeaticous grammar) thing!" :laugh::gp:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Good morning, gentlemen.

My ride to and from D&S Performance to get my Buick 455, will be here in 25-minutes ... the time NOW, is 8:005-am.:)

I slept 2-hours and 20-minutes last night.:laugh::grin::laugh:

... pics here @ 2-pm TODAY!!!!!:grin:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... taking these items with me to D&S in 14-minutes!!!:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I GOT IT TODAY AT 12:12pm!!!:beers2:

Notice ... THE TRUE COLOR???:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... Dan kept his word regarding the '86-'87 turbo Buick Regal front air spoiler. He gave me that, and the two ""T" emblems (my '87 Special-T w/Olds 307 was missing the one one the passenger's side).

This is my "1st" high-stall converter ... Dan stated, "We made it as tight as possible."

Additionally ... he DID send my 1973 Buick 455 Rochester out for a rebuild/rejetting job. In closing ... my '74 H.E.I. was untouched ... and rus-tee! lol

My tranny builder is going to rebuild it for me anyway.:laugh: I bought the Hypertech street/strip cap & rotor set @ 2 months ago from Summit.:cool:

":3gears:THANK GOD ... SO-FAR-SO-GOOD."

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

"THANK EVERY-SINGLE-ONE OF YOU GUYS FOR YOUR EXPERTISE, KNOWLEDGE, HELP, TIME, KINDNESS (true Buick-Guy tradition), HUMOR (I love it) AND SUPPORT!!!:beers2::beers2::beers2::beers2::beers2:

Much Luv & Respect to you ALL.:TU:"

Christopher Dale Swinson:)

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... my TA Performance Cam Card.:3gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... Dan Smith's partner Jose's GN (Jose' is in a few pics I took. He is waaaaay COOL. He unwrapped my new D&S Buick 455 for me.:TU:)

He told me that he broke four bumpers with his "4-wheels-off-the-ground launches" with the TURBO V6 that he and Dan built.:beers2:

[DaWildcat]

Can you post the build sheet so we can see how the tolerances came out?

Devon

Your penchant for detail will be well satisfied if you can get that build sheet from him. It's the only way to know what you received provided it's filled out properly. If he can't provide it, an unconditional warranty would be the only thing stopping me from tearing that thing down and measuring EVERYTHING.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Your penchant for detail will be well satisfied if you can get that build sheet from him. It's the only way to know what you received provided it's filled out properly. If he can't provide it, an unconditional warranty would be the only thing stopping me from tearing that thing down and measuring EVERYTHING.

Devon

lol, Devon ... for me it's over now:cool:.

As I stated before that I NEVER heard of a build-sheet till you mentioned one ... even when Scotty:beer at Pee-Gee (while in Brooklyn) built my Buick 455 ... a few months later ... the driver's side rocker-arm shaft had 3-rockers (stock) torn off ... I had to take it back to him in-car. Scotty "by mistake" did NOT change the driver's side rocker-shaft from aluminum to steel (he told me). I watched him change/repair the shaft & rockers. Mind you ... I drove to him at least 3-times:shock: complaining of "a sound like BRACELETS coming from the driver's side if the motor.:shock:

Scotty was, and still is "My Boy." I have mucho respect for Scotty & Dan Smith.

I'm moving on now.
I understand your adamant concern regarding your best friend's Buick V6 motor Dan built ... but that is not MY issue. Again; Dan built my Boy's (Greg Hearn) brother's motor 20-years ago ... no probs YET, annnd he built Greg's stroker motor as well (in Albany, NY) ... again, no probs yet. Greg and I go way back as friends when Pee-Gee built my 1st-ever Buick 455 ... it would be great if you two could chat some day. Everyone else so far have given me very positive feedback regarding my D&S motor.

I honestly don't care about "any" build sheet ... not even Scotty's; and my OCD-issues are "tricky" ... I don't even care to know ANY of my Family's Birthday's ... from day-1 (lol). Heck, the ONLY way/reason I knew MY MOTHER'S (may she rest in peace) Birthday was ... hers was 2-days BEFORE mine (lollll) ... honestly ... "BUT I LOVE THEM ALL TO DEATH."

Thanks just the same.
Have a great night.:beer

[moleary]

AH yes! A Big Block BUICK, a sight that can bring a teardrop to a glass eye!

I am curious though why the inside of the water pump on the timing cover painted? Wont that wear off and send paint all over the cooling system?

Please keep us posted on your project. Mark

[bostongsx]

AH yes! A Big Block BUICK, a sight that can bring a teardrop to a glass eye!

I am curious though why the inside of the water pump on the timing cover painted? Wont that wear off and send paint all over the cooling system?

Please keep us posted on your project. Mark

:Dou:

[sailbrd]

I just had my motor done by Finishline and I got a build sheet. It should be standard with any build. Not knocking anyone but I thought that was standard operating procedure.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I just had my motor done by Finishline and I got a build sheet. It should be standard with any build. Not knocking anyone but I thought that was standard operating procedure.

:cool:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... more photos;

1 of Jose' (with the GN 4-wheels-in-the-air-launch) taking plastic off my D&S 1973 Buick 455 (positive 10:1 ratio), 1 pic of the exhaust-side head porting, and 1 of "My-455" as we took it to my tranny builder (in pic) to "join the @2800-stall converter, Buick-455 motor and TH400 3-speed ... AS ONE.:TU:

[moleary]

Just out of curiosity, is this car... [1987 Buick Regal Special-T with 10-compression '73 Buick 455 V8 bored .030-over to 462 V8, Stage-1 Iron-heads port-matched to Edelbrock Performer, TA290-08H with 509/504-lift ground by Schneider Racing Cams, TA long-style headers, '70 TH400 3-speed w/shift-kit & 2800-stall converter, '84 Buick T-type 10-bolt 3:42-geared posi, 3-inch true-duals with Thrush 3"-in/out mufflers, and Nas-Tech-Engineering's 2-Stage Cold Air Induction System]... going to be street driven often?

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Just out of curiosity, is this car... [1987 Buick Regal Special-T with 10-compression '73 Buick 455 V8 bored .030-over to 462 V8, Stage-1 Iron-heads port-matched to Edelbrock Performer, TA290-08H with 509/504-lift ground by Schneider Racing Cams, TA long-style headers, '70 TH400 3-speed w/shift-kit & 2800-stall converter, '84 Buick T-type 10-bolt 3:42-geared posi, 3-inch true-duals with Thrush 3"-in/out mufflers, and Nas-Tech-Engineering's 2-Stage Cold Air Induction System]... going to be street driven often?

'"... just for fun on weekends ... and once a year to North Carolina. Why do you ask?'

[moleary]

'"... just for fun on weekends ... and once a year to North Carolina. Why do you ask?'

Just curious. :Do No: Gotta love seeing a BBB Regal going down the road.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... and some more pics. Paint damage (ONLY caused by the damn chain) happened getting the motor out of the pick-up truck. I take care of that tomorrow. :grin:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... Youtube search "nastechengineering7" for video clips of my motor, tranny, installation ... you-name-it; But ALL pertaining to my "1987 Stage-1 Buick 455 Regal Special-T". :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EXuoSsqcJs&feature=channel



Transmission shown soon.
Thanks much.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... last photo prior to my repainting the engine.:3gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... a few pics of my Stage-1 Regal's front air spoiler (a gift from Dan Smith), and my "original" 1973 Buick 455 Rochester "800-CFM" 4-bbl carburetor that D&S had sent out to be rebuilt/rejetted for my Stage-1 D&S-462. :grin:

[bostongsx]

Now stop taking pics and get it in the car:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Now stop taking pics and get it in the car:TU:


LOLLL, AIIIIGHT!:3gears:

I just (literally) got back in the house from visiting the shop that's going to "transform" my Regal. The shop stated that they will need my Regal and everything else "on their operating table" for 9-days maximum.

Now let's make this very, very clear (lol);

On or about July 17th 2010 (Saturday), I plan to take "half-the-$$$," my 1987 Buick Regal (olds 307, th200-4, 7.5" limited-slip 3:08-geared rear), 1984 Buick T-type 10-bolt posi-rear w/3:42's, Chrome-moly GN driveshaft, my new D&S Buick462, my "built" th400 w/torque converter, and EVERY-SINGLE new part I bought for my Stage-1 Regal to the "SHOP."

On or about July 31 2010 (Saturday), I plan on picking up my 90%-complete Stage-1 Buick 455 Regal from the "SHOP," and drive it straight to Meineke (already set everything up). Meineke's task is to complete my exhaust system from "header collectors" BACK, and inspect/correct our headers installation.:laugh:

Theeeennn, I drive the Stage-1 Regal straight to the "auto electrician" so they can install my MSD-6AL-2 ... and inspect/correct ANY electrical mistakes created by the "SHOP." :cool:

As soon as I pick the Stage-1 Regal up from the auto-electrician ...

MY STAGE-1 BUICK 455 REGAL GOES ... HOME.:3gears:

PS ... ALL labor fees from THIS posting on, are "TOP-SECRET" ... yet very reasonable.

Thanks much.

[bostongsx]

4.42 GEARS are going to be a little tough on the street, and
I would be worried about the shop putting in the engine if they cant wire a 6AL Box

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

4.42 GEARS are going to be a little tough on the street, and
I would be worried about the shop putting in the engine if they cant wire a 6AL Box


THANKS VERY MUCH!:beer I made a mistake in posting "4:42's" ... I just made the correction.:TU: The rear has the factory "3:42" gear ratio. Additionally ... I put the 1st base/right out of a 74' Electra Buick 455 in my '85 Regal ... I knew NADA regarding ELECTRICITY (lol) ..."YOU-DAMN-SKIPPY"; I "ain't" letting the "SHOP" even "see" the MSD6AL-2. I want to be 100% certain this electrical issue does not BECOME an "electrical-issue" later down the line. lollll I assure you the "SHOP" can install the MDS correctly ... but if "I" have a tooth-ache ... I ain't going to no PODIATRIST. LOL

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... I feel very, very, very LUCKY to have My Baby:kodak: "touching-up"
MY D&S Baby.:TU:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP_klaOKa8&feature=channel

[killrbuick66455]

DID Dan Smith build your Buick 455???

umm...no he didn't

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

umm...no he didn't


... I think ... this is a reply from @ 2-months ago????:Do No:
I forgot what your reply was originally regarding.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... the "repainting" of my D&S Buick 455 is complete. The water pump and aluminum thermostat housing from TA Performance gets here by Wednesday ... and I cant wait to paint and install. I'm putting in the "R45" plugs the same day. The distributor rebuild will happen next weekend.:grin:

(PS; "look" at the "Stage-1" sticker on the air cleaner assembly.)

[moleary]

Sounds like it is going to come together quick.

What about that painted internal of the timing cover / water pump housing I posted about a few days ago?

MO

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Sounds like it is going to come together quick.

What about that painted internal of the timing cover / water pump housing I posted about a few days ago?

MO

It's NOT A PROBLEM.:grin: I did post a reply to this the same day you inquired. Dan has done many of his motors like this for YEARS ... no one has had an issue YET. Are we 'done' with this topic? (lol)

[moleary]

It's NOT A PROBLEM.:grin: I did post a reply to this the same day you inquired. Dan has done many of his motors like this for YEARS ... no one has had an issue YET. Are we 'done' with this topic? (lol)

Oh, I must have missed your reply:spank: I just have never seen that area painted before:Do No:

And who is that happy fellow in one of those pictures with your engine?

Have a great Fourth.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Oh, I must have missed your reply:spank: I just have never seen that area painted before:Do No:

And who is that happy fellow in one of those pictures with your engine?

Have a great Fourth.

Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't read my reply-to-your-reply:beer.

That would be "ME.":laugh:

I swear to God ... I lost weight stressed over getting this engine done/in Brooklyn with my transmission.:shock:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Oh, I must have missed your reply:spank: I just have never seen that area painted before:Do No:

And who is that happy fellow in one of those pictures with your engine?

Have a great Fourth.

"You have a fantastic 4th as well; I bet YOU will be DRIVING your BUICK today.:TU::TU:"

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... FINALLY was able to "update" my Site (... I almost had forgotten about it's major purpose) with my motor and the "Cold-Air-Induction System" I invented for my Stage-1 Buick 455 Regal.:TU:

Major modifications (exterior/size/weight mainly ... and more rounding) are already in play. I can finalize it, and make it BEAUTIFUL now ... cause' ... I have the D&S 455 I've been waiting for ... and the "455" can now go in the Regal.:beers2:

http://www.nas-tech-engineering.com/

[pooods]

Glad you have gotten your engine. Hope all works out well for you too! BUT, you need to listen more to people on this board IMO. When people tell you to ask for a build sheet you might want to do so. A good builder will have such a sheet. It will show the clearances on the bearings and all the parts used. This is the story of your engine. Without it you are blind as to what you really have. If you have problems in the future a build sheet might help you figure out a problem also. Also, a friend of mine is a GREAT engine builder. He has been building and racing his engines since the late 60's. However, he is a Chevy builder and when I used him on my Buick parts he cost me hundreds of dollars. When I used a local race shop to build my last short block he didn't listen and set bearing clearances to what he thought was needed. His "Chevy" way of thinking cost me much needed oil pressure. This shop is considered the best in our area but again they build Chevy engines.
So, I suggest in the future you do many searches on here. You ask as many questions as possible and when certain members tell you something you listen.

Glad you are happy and I sure hope you stay that way.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Glad you have gotten your engine. Hope all works out well for you too! BUT, you need to listen more to people on this board IMO. When people tell you to ask for a build sheet you might want to do so. A good builder will have such a sheet. It will show the clearances on the bearings and all the parts used. This is the story of your engine. Without it you are blind as to what you really have. If you have problems in the future a build sheet might help you figure out a problem also. Also, a friend of mine is a GREAT engine builder. He has been building and racing his engines since the late 60's. However, he is a Chevy builder and when I used him on my Buick parts he cost me hundreds of dollars. When I used a local race shop to build my last short block he didn't listen and set bearing clearances to what he thought was needed. His "Chevy" way of thinking cost me much needed oil pressure. This shop is considered the best in our area but again they build Chevy engines.
So, I suggest in the future you do many searches on here. You ask as many questions as possible and when certain members tell you something you listen.

Glad you are happy and I sure hope you stay that way.



Thanks. I DO listen to PEOPLE, the way I REACT to what PEOPLE say/tell me is QUITE a different STORY. Spoke to Dan regarding the BUILDSHEET the day o picked up my motor; Dan offered the info to me ... I told him when "I" need it (God forbid ) I will get it. I refuse to post that sheet here ... CAUSE FOR SOME STRANGE REASON; PEOPLE are dying to SEE it WAAAAAY MORE THAN ... ME.

[bostongsx]

Thanks. I DO listen to PEOPLE, the way I REACT to what PEOPLE say/tell me is QUITE a different STORY. Spoke to Dan regarding the BUILDSHEET the day o picked up my motor; Dan offered the info to me ... I told him when "I" need it (God forbid ) I will get it. I refuse to post that sheet here ... CAUSE FOR SOME STRANGE REASON; PEOPLE are dying to SEE it WAAAAAY MORE THAN ... ME.


As long as your builder is warrantying your engine I wouldn't worry about it either... If it blows up he has to rebuild it for free correct, how long is he giving you for time/mileage?

Also nice work on the 2 -stage, if you are looking for someone to track test the performance let me know, I would be happy to try it at the bpg event and post the results, I have a cowl hood so clearance shouldn't be an issue. Is there anything internal on that air box to take care of the turbulence.
Let me know
Herb

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

As long as your builder is warrantying your engine I wouldn't worry about it either... If it blows up he has to rebuild it for free correct, how long is he giving you for time/mileage?

Also nice work on the 2 -stage, if you are looking for someone to track test the performance let me know, I would be happy to try it at the bpg event and post the results, I have a cowl hood so clearance shouldn't be an issue. Is there anything internal on that air box to take care of the turbulence.
Let me know
Herb

Thanks much, Herb. Yes. The very first issue I addressed in my "2-Stage Cold-Air-Induction System" was AIR TURBULENCE:TU:. The INSIDE is nothing like the OUTSIDE.:beers2:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... been super-busy;

The '87 Regal, the D&S motor, the TA long headers, tranny, GN chrome-moly driveshaft, 10-bolt GN 3:42-posi, and the fuel lines head to the SHOP next week Friday.:TU:

The TA Buick 455 flywheel, Buick 455 100-amp chrome alternator, and a new H.E.I. "pick-up" were ordered this morning ... gets here by Thursday latest.

Brian (:TU::TU:) at gbodyparts.com sold me the water pump & crank pullies with stainless steel bolts & screws included. I sanded/primed/painted the pullies and the original '73 Buick 455 alternator bracket last night ... they look PERFECT ... you can still see the ###'s on each piece.:TU:

In closing ... thank you all ... AGAIN.:TU::TU::TU::beers2:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... the Stage-1 Buick Regal TRANSFORMATION begins Friday after work!!! :beer

[PaulGS]

How is it a hobby if you don't do any of the work?

Not to be a smart ass, but is'nt doing it yourself a big part of the satisfaction?

Help me understand this......:Smarty:

[TaxBBBuick]

Guys I enjoyed reading your posts. Do you have a dino sheet? Around how much did it cost? My 73/74 455 blew and Im looking for a local buick shop to build my long block. I am located in Westchester NY. I need some one who is knows buick motors, this is my second motor i blew. yes its fun doing it yourslef but I would like to drive the car again sometime this year.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

How is it a hobby if you don't do any of the work?

Not to be a smart ass, but is'nt doing it yourself a big part of the satisfaction?

Help me understand this......:Smarty:


... "IF" you are referring to "me," I don't think you read closely.

To reiterate, way back in 1997 ... without ANY technical help, I bought a '74 Buick 455-V8 Electra for $500 running/driving/killer-A/C ... even did burnouts with it my friend could NOT do with his 5.0 Mustang. I bought a '85 Regal sands motor/tranny ... and put that 455 in the Regal and beat the hell out of it till I threw 2 rods. It took me @ 1-month to get the 455 in the Regal ... and close the hood ... until I saw a Poston add in Muscle Car Magazine. I called Jim ... the rest is History.

Now; I (with the help of my "drinking" brother with no mechanical-anything) removed the 455 from the Electra, I called the junkyard to come get the Electra' when I was done with it ... they paid me $50 for the Electra, I got the chassis mounts from Poston, I paid for them as well. I borrowed my friend's portable engine lift and pushed it 6-blocks back and forth till I got the motor in the Regal ... that I paid for. I was the one under my Regal lying on my back in frustration for 2-hours daily praying to God to help me get the Regal done. I was the one that cut his hands deeply ... daily and again... it was I that ignored the pain of of sweat, dirt & oil in the cuts. I also installed the Poston chassis-mounts by first installing the motor/tranny/chassis&motor mount kit as one ... bolting it all up ... then spray-painting around the chassis-mounts to create a template as to where to drill new holes (Poston lied ... the holes NEVER line up. You need to drill 2-new holes). I was the one installing/pulling the motor till I got it centered. I was the one that busted my heater core & cover. I was the one that cracked my grille putting the motor in the Regal. I was the one that felt that pain. I also was the one that figured out to move the TH200-cross-member back a few inches to accept the th400 AND keep everything centered. I was the one that had to bang out the radiator housing on both sides to clear the '74 Buick Electra' radiator in the '85 Regal. I paid for it all ... JUST LIKE THIS TRAIN RIDE. I cut/modified my fuel lines ... gasoline tastes NASTY ... I had it all in my face while under the Regal ... I stayed ... GOT IT DONE. I additionally cut into the '85' Regal's crossmember chassis bracket ... slid the crossmember in between the 6-inch long section, and bolted down the crossmember that way. I used a die-cutter to do this ... WITH NO GOGGLES!

I did a whoooole lot more than I can write here ... like listening to the shop owner (My mother's mechanic at the time, may she rest in peace.) Willie Rodriguez tell me, "Broooo, you're wasting my lift's time & money. You are NEVER gonna' get that BIG motor in that Regal. It was DEVASTATING proving a Puerto-Rican mechanic ... WRONG!!!

Heck, I also sanded & repaint the Regal's entire engine bay (by HAND) before the Pee-Gee Buick 455 went in.

OH; I'M SORRY ... the above TRUE-STORY was in reference to my "stock" Buick 455 Regal.

I blew the original '74 Buick 455 ... and had to go see Scotty at Pee-Gee Performance.

Now ... the sammme things I did to my prior 3 Buick 455 Regals ... I am doing again ... and better. Just because I mention a "shop" ... it doesn't mean I aint gonna' do nothing.

WHO said I was NOT going to be heavily involved physically in "MY" Project??????:Do No::Do No::Do No::Do No::Do No:

The shop is my friends.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... I took alot of photos at D&S Performance. I was fooling around on lunch-hour today with creating a serious slide show of the progress of my Regal. This only a test.:laugh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eerwyEnMSQI

[RegalBeagle]

How is it a hobby if you don't do any of the work?

Not to be a smart ass, but is'nt doing it yourself a big part of the satisfaction?

Help me understand this......:Smarty:

The hobby could be just enjoying the car for some people, while for others it could be paint and body or building engines. It sounds like Stage2Torque has done an awful lot of his own work on his cars over the years.
At the end of the day if a guy just has the money to get it done rather than the time to do it himself really doesn't matter. For me there are things I am comfortable trying and things I'm not ready to tackle yet. Wrenching on 5 to 8k worth of parts on an engine isn't just somethig a guy hopes "works out ok". :laugh:

Beagle

[bigz]

The hobby could be just enjoying the car for some people, while for others it could be paint and body or building engines. It sounds like Stage2Torque has done an awful lot of his own work on his cars over the years.
At the end of the day if a guy just has the money to get it done rather than the time to do it himself really doesn't matter. For me there are things I am comfortable trying and things I'm not ready to tackle yet. Wrenching on 5 to 8k worth of parts on an engine isn't just somethig a guy hopes "works out ok". :laugh:

Beagle

I agree yes working on them is part of the fun I suppose but I enjoy driving the car more than anything. A good friend of mine is just the opposite he's a very talented guy when it comes to cars, but he builds them and then six months later gets rid of them and works on something else. I've done some of the work on my car (installed nitrous kit, some suspension stuff, maintenance, etc), but I left the paint and body to a professional. I'm thinking about building a 455 at some point and would never try it on my own. I read alot of stuff on here about guys destroying new motors not saying they don't know what they are doing, but I'll let a shop take that risk rather than me I can only afford to do it once.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

The hobby could be just enjoying the car for some people, while for others it could be paint and body or building engines. It sounds like Stage2Torque has done an awful lot of his own work on his cars over the years.
At the end of the day if a guy just has the money to get it done rather than the time to do it himself really doesn't matter. For me there are things I am comfortable trying and things I'm not ready to tackle yet. Wrenching on 5 to 8k worth of parts on an engine isn't just somethig a guy hopes "works out ok". :laugh:

Beagle


"YOU ARE A KING!" :TU::TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

On or about July 23rd 2010 (Friday), I plan to take "half-the-$400," my 1987 Buick Regal (olds 307, th200-4, 7.5" limited-slip 3:08-geared rear), 1984 Buick T-type 10-bolt posi-rear w/3:42's, Chrome-moly GN driveshaft, my new D&S Buick462, my "built" th400 w/torque converter, and EVERY-SINGLE new part I bought for my Stage-1 Regal to the "SHOP." (I am paying for LIFT-USE/TOOL-USAGE and the help of the 2-Mexican shop workers)

REMEMBER; I DID THE BUICK 455/G-BODY THING 3-TIMES ALREADY ...
but NEVER with LONG-STYLE HEADERS!!!:idea2:

On or about July 31 2010 (Saturday), I plan on driving my 90%-complete Stage-1 Buick 455 Regal from the "SHOP," and drive it straight to Meineke (already set everything up). Meineke's task is to complete my exhaust system from "header collectors" BACK, and inspect/correct our headers installation.:laugh:

Theeeennn, I drive the Stage-1 Regal straight to "PONTIAC-ALLEY" so Tyrone & I can install my MSD-6AL-2 ... and inspect/correct ANY electrical mistakes we created at the "SHOP." :cool:

As soon as the MSD6AL-2 is installed ... I JUMP ON THE HIGHWAY WITH MY GIRL.:grin:

Each event will be video-taped and posted on Youtube under "nastechengineering7".

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD!

In closing, around 12:30pm today, I am heading to the garage to wash the Regal & 10-bolt posi ... repaint the rear, empty the parts stored in my trunk, and take a few "pre-transformation pics" while the Buick is still ... NORMAL. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Then @ 3:30-pm, Tyrone is picking me up so I can add the 100-amp alternator, crank & water pump pullies, and the H.E.I.!

I am ordering the Griffin Dominator radiator next week Monday ... and of course ... INSTALLING THAT MYSELF AS WELL. :kodak:

TTUL:beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Guys I enjoyed reading your posts. Do you have a dino sheet? Around how much did it cost? My 73/74 455 blew and Im looking for a local buick shop to build my long block. I am located in Westchester NY. I need some one who is knows buick motors, this is my second motor i blew. yes its fun doing it yourslef but I would like to drive the car again sometime this year.

What car is your blown motor in? Where did you have it built?

I HAVE OCD-on-Axis-2; I have every stitch of info on EVERYTHING from time-frame to pricing. Certain info ... I just DON'T mention:laugh:.

Additionally, if you want a BUICK-BUILDER that KNOWS Buick ...

Daniel Smith at D&S Performance in Camden NJ (1-609-841-1552).

If you want an immediate reply ... text him. My issue with Dan was "MY-ISSUE" ... an issue of ANXIETY-ATTACKS transformed into ANGER and OCD/DEPRESSION:Do No:. (LOL) D&S Performance is the ONLY place (near) I will EVER have touch a Buick 455 of mine.:grin:

I am sure there are other Buick-builders somewhere near ... I just know not of any.

Good-Luck WITH everything.:3gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... I just CAN'T WAIT to hear my '87 Regal sound like THIS!!! :3gears:

http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc148/topless64-455/?action=view&current=MOV01775.flv

:grin::grin::grin:

[low buck Jim]

The Idle is wicked, but I love the sound that cam makes above 2,000 R.P.M.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... partially bolted on the TA-Headers today, and finally bolted-up the TA-water-pump (stainless steel bolts). The 100-amp alternator gets bolted up Wednesday ... prior to the TRANSFORMATION this Friday. I am waiting on the TA-flex-plate ... so the tranny & 10-inch converter gets bolted-up Monday.

The '87 Olds 307/radiator, TH200-R4 tranny/stock shifter, stock drive-shaft, stock 7.5-inch 3:08-rear, aftermarket (rusty/leaking) 2-1/2" true-duals, stock fuel lines/tranny lines, and the Pontiac steering-wheel (got the Regal with it. I already have a '84 Buick turbo-Regal steering wheel ... that I customized) goes to THE GARBAGE this Friday.:TU::TU:

I wen to the garage today and washed my Regal, and emptied out the trunk. I removed the original trunk carpeting ... and found that the Regal's trunk area still looks good. I am replacing the carpeting next month.:)

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... more.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I got annoyed when I saw the rust beginning to form on my headers. This was the first time they had been ... outside. The rust took only 2-weeks to begin showing!

LAST PICS TILL FRIDAY. lol :TU::TU::TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... just a clip. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZaN4DiOFc&feature=channel

[bostongsx]

I dont have much experience with bbb regals but it will probably be easier to install the engine with the headers off. Good Luck with the install
Herb

[No Lift]

That looks like raw steel. What would you expect. Any moisture in the air would cause rust.

[DaWildcat]

That looks like raw steel. What would you expect. Any moisture in the air would cause rust.

Agreed. Without a protective coating from the header's supplier or an aftermarket source for a coating, their lifetime will be very short.

Devon

[DaWildcat]

Guys I enjoyed reading your posts. Do you have a dino sheet? Around how much did it cost? My 73/74 455 blew and Im looking for a local buick shop to build my long block. I am located in Westchester NY. I need some one who is knows buick motors, this is my second motor i blew. yes its fun doing it yourslef but I would like to drive the car again sometime this year.

Here's why I will never recommend this builder. Yes, it's the same "D & S".

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/mid-atlantic-grand-national-association-magna/82402-you-have-got-s-ing-me.html

Caveat Emptor.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I dont have much experience with bbb regals but it will probably be easier to install the engine with the headers off. Good Luck with the install
Herb


... THAT'S exactly what I plan on doing. :TU::TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Here's why I will never recommend this builder. Yes, it's the same "D & S".

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/mid-atlantic-grand-national-association-magna/82402-you-have-got-s-ing-me.html

Caveat Emptor.

Devon


" ... YEAH-YEAH-YEAH ... we ALL know about this already." :laugh:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Here's why I will never recommend this builder. Yes, it's the same "D & S".

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/mid-atlantic-grand-national-association-magna/82402-you-have-got-s-ing-me.html

Caveat Emptor.

Devon


Okay; the guy needs a builder ... can you SUGGEST one for him??? :pray:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

That looks like raw steel. What would you expect. Any moisture in the air would cause rust.


"I see. So ... it-is-what-it-is." :cool:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Agreed. Without a protective coating from the header's supplier or an aftermarket source for a coating, their lifetime will be very short.

Devon


I will for sure check into this. Thanks much.:Dou:

[DaWildcat]

Okay; the guy needs a builder ... can you SUGGEST one for him??? :pray:

See Hansen Racing in Middlesex, NJ, about 1.5 hours from Westchester.

http://hansenracing.us/

They build Greg Gessler's engines. He's dipped into the tens with a full weight, stock appearing GS, right down to the skinny bias ply tires:

http://www.gesslerheadporting.com/gesslerheadporting/ghp.nsf/822dcaaaa26c6da985256dd80023623d/62918fba0b4f96e185256def00041edd!OpenDocument

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

See Hansen Racing in Middlesex, NJ, about 1.5 hours from Westchester.

http://hansenracing.us/

They build Greg Gessler's engines. He's dipped into the tens with a full weight, stock appearing GS, right down to the skinny bias ply tires:

http://www.gesslerheadporting.com/gesslerheadporting/ghp.nsf/822dcaaaa26c6da985256dd80023623d/62918fba0b4f96e185256def00041edd!OpenDocument (http://www.gesslerheadporting.com/gesslerheadporting/ghp.nsf/822dcaaaa26c6da985256dd80023623d/62918fba0b4f96e185256def00041edd%21OpenDocument)

Devon


AIIIGHT! I remember Mr. Gessler. We spoke a few years ago when Pee-Gee built my 1st Buick 455. Once Greg found out that Scotty was doing my 455, he said, "Scotty is building your 455??? Scotty IS THE MAN when it comes to a Buick 455 ... just let him build your motor.":laugh:

"COOLNESS.":3gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

That looks like raw steel. What would you expect. Any moisture in the air would cause rust.


Mike, tomorrow I am ordering 4-cans of this stuff from Jeg's tomorrow. :beer

http://www.jegs.com/p/Duplicolor/Duplicolor-High-Heat-Paint/763072/10002/-1

[DaWildcat]

Mike, tomorrow I am ordering 4-cans of this stuff from Jeg's tomorrow. :beer

http://www.jegs.com/p/Duplicolor/Duplicolor-High-Heat-Paint/763072/10002/-1

Get your hands on an oil additive called ZDDPlus too, not sure if Jeg's carries it or not. Essential for cam break-in and for every oil change to keep our old-tech flat tappet camshafts happy.

Devon

P.S. Even though I'm a pain in your backside, if you have any questions about the break-in process just give a shout to me or any of the other members. We all want to see you tearing up the asphalt soon.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Get your hands on an oil additive called ZDDPlus too, not sure if Jeg's carries it or not. Essential for cam break-in and for every oil change to keep our old-tech flat tappet camshafts happy.

Devon

P.S. Even though I'm a pain in your backside, if you have any questions about the break-in process just give a shout to me or any of the other members. We all want to see you tearing up the asphalt soon.

... LOLLL ... Devon, Devon, Devon; YOU are NOT a pain in my backside ...
I LOG ON SOMETIMES JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE REPLYING TO.:beer

Also, a Mustang-guy told me last night that he uses the black paint they paint outdoor grills with... from Home Depot.:shock:

Thanks for the cam-break-in info offer ... and all.:grin:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

"2-MORE DAYS TILL STAGE-1 REGAL TRANSFORMATION!!!"


:3gears::3gears::3gears::3gears::3gears::3gears::3 gears:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... I'm taking the Regal via flatbed to the SHOP today at 5-pm! :beer

At 4:00pm today, I am also taking the GN rear to KM Driveline to have the TA rear cover installed, the Energy Suspension control arm bushings, gear oil, and the complete rear inspected. I pick it up tomorrow.

The Buick455/TH400/GM 8.5" posi-rear drive-train goes to the SHOP on Friday of this week. The TA flex-plate arrives no later than Monday.

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD!!!:grin:

[v8regalowner]

I dont have much experience with bbb regals but it will probably be easier to install the engine with the headers off. Good Luck with the install
Herb

oh believe me the motor isnt goin in with the headers attached, actually they will need to be put in the car first and then the motor dropped between them, be prepared to grind the ears off of the upper control arms and possible a little bit on the drivers side frame down by the proportioning valve. i had my motor out 15-20 times when i was putting it in the first time. almost called it quits a few times. glad i didnt though.good luck.its alot of fun in the end.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

oh believe me the motor isnt goin in with the headers attached, actually they will need to be put in the car first and then the motor dropped between them, be prepared to grind the ears off of the upper control arms and possible a little bit on the drivers side frame down by the proportioning valve. i had my motor out 15-20 times when i was putting it in the first time. almost called it quits a few times. glad i didnt though.good luck.its alot of fun in the end.

Thanks very, very much for the heads-up. :beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... 1st pics of my Regal out of the garage since the crank-broke. It had 3-flat tires from prior Olds-307 burnouts and sitting for 1-1/2 years.:laugh:

I also took the GN rear to KM Driveline to have the rear inspected, the TA rear girdle installed, and make sure the rear is balanced. It will be ready for pick it up tomorrow.

The SHOP and I begin tomorrow. :beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... FINALLY; my Regal is at the SHOP!!! The TA Performance flex-plate comes no later than Monday ... I take the D&S 455 motor and tranny to the SHOP on Tuesday ... along with the GN rear. :bglasses:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... and a final small clip ... until the Oldsmobile crap comes out.:3gears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk-3_vKGKk

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... KM Driveline called me this morning;

THE POSI UNIT AND GEARS ARE PITTED!!!

A brand new Auburn posi unit, new 3:42 ring & pinion, new bearings, and adjustment/balance with new posi-oil cost me $605 even!:( I am getting back my pitted posi unit just to see.

Hey ... at least I found out BEFORE it went in the Regal.:beer

Monday I pick it up.
SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.:laugh:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... last pics of Regal until the motor, tranny, and rear is OUT. :TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... couldn't help it (OCD, remember) ... a few more pics.

The Olds 307/Th200/7.5" limited-slip 3.08:1 rear are all unbolted and ready to be pulled ... MONDAY. Why Monday (I almost cried myself); The SHOP owner insisted that we pull the Olds drive-train the same day the Buick 455/tranny/GN rear are present. Additionally, the Buick 455 flex-plate arrives via UPS on Monday. In pic#3 it shows how close the Olds-307 is to the upper control arm ... imagine the Buick 455; I'm a lil worried about HEADER fit now. The last 2-pics show the 7.5" limited-slip 308-geared rear. The TH200 tranny/converter & the rear and drive-shaft goes to Tyrone ... the guy that built my '70 TH400. He told me that he used a 1969 series pump in my tranny as a favor. lol In closing, we are going to "box" my factory upper (rear) control arms ... AFTER I SOAK, CLEAN, SAND, AND (rust-guard) ... THEN I PAINT THEM.

Next/updated photos on Monday.:laugh:

[monkeyy337]

Is he going to give you time to clean/paint the engine bay before you stick that shinny new motor in there? Seems a shame to stick a new motor in a dirty engine bay.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Is he going to give you time to clean/paint the engine bay before you stick that shinny new motor in there? Seems a shame to stick a new motor in a dirty engine bay.

"YES SIR!!!":beer

I wanted to start sanding TODAY ... but gotta' wait till Monday. My GAME is to lie to the SHOP owner regarding the flex-plate's ACTUAL DELIVERY TIME ... that way ... I have 3-hours to play-with :grin: IN THE ENGINE BAY.:)

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Is he going to give you time to clean/paint the engine bay before you stick that shinny new motor in there? Seems a shame to stick a new motor in a dirty engine bay.


... Please; the rear brake modification using @ 4-pads and a S10-truck non-power brake wheel cylinder on my '87 Regal's GN rear???? :Dou:

[v8regalowner]

... couldn't help it (OCD, remember) ... a few more pics.

The Olds 307/Th200/7.5" limited-slip 3.08:1 rear are all unbolted and ready to be pulled ... MONDAY. Why Monday (I almost cried myself); The SHOP owner insisted that we pull the Olds drive-train the same day the Buick 455/tranny/GN rear are present. Additionally, the Buick 455 flex-plate arrives via UPS on Monday. In pic#3 it shows how close the Olds-307 is to the upper control arm ... imagine the Buick 455; I'm a lil worried about HEADER fit now. The last 2-pics show the 7.5" limited-slip 308-geared rear. The TH200 tranny/converter & the rear and drive-shaft goes to Tyrone ... the guy that built my '70 TH400. He told me that he used a 1969 series pump in my tranny as a favor. lol In closing, we are going to "box" my factory upper (rear) control arms ... AFTER I SOAK, CLEAN, SAND, AND (rust-guard) ... THEN I PAINT THEM.

Next/updated photos on Monday.:laugh:

oh, the headers are going to touch. i didnt look to see which ones you were useing but i have the t/a's with the 2 inch primarys and like i stated before it was either ding the header or grind the control arm, i chose to grind.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

oh, the headers are going to touch. i didnt look to see which ones you were useing but i have the t/a's with the 2 inch primarys and like i stated before it was either ding the header or grind the control arm, i chose to grind.

... the same headers. Are yours the long-style? Do have pics you can post ... please???:Dou: (That's really my engine in my profile pic).

[v8regalowner]

... the same headers. Are yours the long-style? Do have pics you can post ... please???:Dou: (That's really my engine in my profile pic).

yes mine are the long style, i dont have any of how the headers look in the car, and i just pulled the motor because i spun a bearing. i will at least take pics of what i had to do to the control arms to make it fit. its not alot but it was needed.just so you know, the frame pads dont line up with any of the existing holes in the k member so you will be making new holes also. hardest part of the swap in my opinion.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

yes mine are the long style, i dont have any of how the headers look in the car, and i just pulled the motor because i spun a bearing. i will at least take pics of what i had to do to the control arms to make it fit. its not alot but it was needed.just so you know, the frame pads dont line up with any of the existing holes in the k member so you will be making new holes also. hardest part of the swap in my opinion.


Thanks, Dan.

Poston stated that their frame pads lined-right-up ... I had to drill one new hole on each side of the chassis. I had a feeling the TA chassis pads were going to have the same issue. I had to bolt it down through the oblong hole in the K-member with a SWIVEL ratchet. I took me 3-day to figure that out in 1998 ... now I can do it in my sleep. I plan on cutting down the the control arms ... with them off the car (changing the bushings & bolts to new) ... and sanding/painting the c-arms afterward.

Thanks alot, Dan.:beer

[regal81455]

Thanks, Dan.

Poston stated that their frame pads lined-right-up ... I had to drill one new hole on each side of the chassis. I had a feeling the TA chassis pads were going to have the same issue. I had to bolt it down through the oblong hole in the K-member with a SWIVEL ratchet. I took me 3-day to figure that out in 1998 ... now I can do it in my sleep. I plan on cutting down the the control arms ... with them off the car (changing the bushings & bolts to new) ... and sanding/painting the c-arms afterward.

Thanks alot, Dan.:beer

if your going thru the trouble of taking the uppers off and changing bushings,etc.. why not just buy a cheap pair of gbodyparts/speedway uppers and then your problems will no longer exist with the headers - $125 well spent in my opinion...

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

if your going thru the trouble of taking the uppers off and changing bushings,etc.. why not just buy a cheap pair of gbodyparts/speedway uppers and then your problems will no longer exist with the headers - $125 well spent in my opinion...


" ... where can I purchase these PLEASE?????" :beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

My TH400 transmission ... and modified 1973 Buick 455 H.E.I. with Hyper-Tech H.E.I. high-voltage cap & rotor are COMPLETED.:grin::grin::grin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j510EjVMzlA

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... my rebuilt/modified H.E.I., stock fuel lines are gone/stainless steel braided -8 replaces them, front upper control-arms to be modified or purchased for $125(?), and the MAIN ATTRACTION; My TH400 Transmission!!! :TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... last pics of the TRANSMISSION ... till Monday when bolted to the Buick 455.

[regal81455]

You need 2 right side arms. 91031133-R on speedwaymotors.com. Add the stock replacement ball joints ( moog k5208 ) for any 81-87 gbody that can be purchased through speedway or from your local parts house and your all set.

Link...

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chrome-Moly-Upper-Control-Arm,4853.html

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

You need 2 right side arms. 91031133-R on speedwaymotors.com. Add the stock replacement ball joints ( moog k5208 ) for any 81-87 gbody that can be purchased through speedway or from your local parts house and your all set.

Link...

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chrome-Moly-Upper-Control-Arm,4853.html


"I-LOVE-YOU-MAN!!!":beer

I just got off the phone with the sales lady; Do I need "2-RIGHT-SIDE" arms ... NOT "1-left/1-right" ???

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... FEELING "PRET-TY-GOOD" ABOUT THIS SITE. :grin:

[regal81455]

Do I need "2-RIGHT-SIDE" arms ... NOT "1-left/1-right" ???

Yes - 2 rights.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Yes - 2 rights.


THANKS MUCH!:beer You, Sir-King have just saved me @ 2-hours hard-physical labor ... and not having to take a 7.5 oxycodone for lower disk pain after the fact (lolllll)

" ... I'm going in.":Dou:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

The Olds 307 is OUT! I started cleaning/repainting the chassis section in the engine bay ... and the rest of the engine bay today. The buick455 goes in TOMORROW for sure. :TU: The Griffin radiator and the chrome-moly upper control arms arrive tomorrow. We will begin as instructed via V8Buick.com with laying the headers in the engine's bay first.:TU::TU:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BtkMuHDE5w

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... THE REMOVAL!!!:TU:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-5I6Bw8pc

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... THE FIRST INSTALL ATTEMPT.:3gears:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQPDnEUnwvU&feature=channel

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

SUMMIT RACING EQUIPMENT SCREWED-UP!!!:mad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O32TUQgCyxs

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... took a few pics via cellphone-camera today while on lunch-hour.:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... last pics till Tuesday. :kodak:

[TaxBBBuick]

I build my motor my self with a friend. I dont know what im doing but he seemed to know. this is my second motor I blew I just want to dirve the car.

can you contact me with some more details i want my car running. I just want my car running right with out problems.

I have an 87 GN with a ford 9"

thanks,

Mike

mike

[DaWildcat]

I build my motor my self with a friend. I dont know what im doing but he seemed to know. this is my second motor I blew I just want to dirve the car.

can you contact me with some more details i want my car running. I just want my car running right with out problems.

I have an 87 GN with a ford 9"

thanks,

Mike

mike

You will have to contact the builder for a quote, or contact Greg Gessler for the recommendation.

http://www.v8buick.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=119

Devon

[RegalBeagle]

I just want to say good luck with the rest of the install. I am excited for you to be getting your car running and can't wait to put a 455 in my Regal next summer. for now its a piddly little SBC but next summer........look out!!!
Can't wait to hear yours running my friend!!!!!


Beagle:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I just want to say good luck with the rest of the install. I am excited for you to be getting your car running and can't wait to put a 455 in my Regal next summer. for now its a piddly little SBC but next summer........look out!!!
Can't wait to hear yours running my friend!!!!!


Beagle:TU:


Thank you very, very, very, very much. I honestly appreciate you words. I pray to God that EVERY single thing you want for your Regal ... you get it even better.:)

Have a fantastic evening.:beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

The TA Performance headers ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OohjOxbzAlc

[v8regalowner]

The TA Performance headers ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OohjOxbzAlc

yea that drivers side one for sure isnt goin in untill you lift the motor back up. i guess you might stand a chance if your taking the upper arm off but i still have my doubts. and then be careful because that last tube on the drivers side i know didnt quite line up and we had to do some tweaking to get the bolts in.:TU:

[Trevor455]

I have done 2 455 Regals, and the only way I have been able to install the headers is lay them in there before you set the engine on the mounts.

[sailbrd]

I have done 2 455 Regals, and the only way I have been able to install the headers is lay them in there before you set the engine on the mounts.

That's what I hear from all of the 455 Regal guys. Also if you have 1 piece header gaskets you need to make the drivers side a 2 piece to get the dipstick tube in.

[Trevor455]

You are exactly right sailbrd. The dipstick tube won't fit unless you cut the gasket.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

That's what I hear from all of the 455 Regal guys. Also if you have 1 piece header gaskets you need to make the drivers side a 2 piece to get the dipstick tube in.

Thanks much. We figured that one out. We did lay the headers in the engine bay first. Check out YouTube at "nastechengineering7" for videos.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... STOCK 1987 REGAL FUEL TANK;

I last drove the 307 Olds Regal @ 2-years ago with @ 4-gallons of gas left in it. Is it necessary to have the fule tank flushed prior to my D&S Buick 455 start-up??? I had a '85 Regal with a V6 for my Pee-Gee Buick 462. I plumed in the new motor and did NOT do any flushing. I had no clue if any gas was in the tank. Please help.:Dou:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... The headers are french-kissing the chassis & lower a-arms! :shock:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... As long as I can drive it to Meineke ... SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.:shock:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... braided stainless steel -8 fuel line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Njs-IvCVg

[RegalBeagle]

... STOCK 1987 REGAL FUEL TANK;

I last drove the 307 Olds Regal @ 2-years ago with @ 4-gallons of gas left in it. Is it necessary to have the fule tank flushed prior to my D&S Buick 455 start-up??? I had a '85 Regal with a V6 for my Pee-Gee Buick 462. I plumed in the new motor and did NOT do any flushing. I had no clue if any gas was in the tank. Please help.:Dou:

I would drain the fuel and start with fresh fuel. Fuel goes bad very quickly so why take a chance.

Beagle :laugh:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I would drain the fuel and start with fresh fuel. Fuel goes bad very quickly so why take a chance.

Beagle :laugh:

Thanks mucho. We did that Tuesday.:beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... 95% completed.:Dou:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3IynjTs00

[RegalBeagle]

[quote=STAGE-2 TORQUE;1693707]... 95% completed.:Dou:





I am jacked to hear that beast running!!!
Did you have to remove the heater box to get the 455 in there or were you able to leave it intact?
Best of luck with the last 5% my friend!!!

Beagle:beer

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

[quote=STAGE-2 TORQUE;1693707]... 95% completed.:Dou:





I am jacked to hear that beast running!!!
Did you have to remove the heater box to get the 455 in there or were you able to leave it intact?
Best of luck with the last 5% my friend!!!

Beagle:beer

Thanks, man! Me too. The heater box stayed intact. Only got 2 scratches.

[DaWildcat]

In regards to the FRAM filter, see how far you can throw it!

Use a WIX or NAPA Gold instead, and change it for the same after break-in.

Devon

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... pics of yesterday.

After work today, I stopped by the SHOP ... more things were done; those pics tomorrow ... very tired --- work, the Buick, and painting our new 3-bedroom apartment ... the OCD-way (lollll).:sleep:

[455'ed80Regal]

You need 2 right side arms. 91031133-R on speedwaymotors.com. Add the stock replacement ball joints ( moog k5208 ) for any 81-87 gbody that can be purchased through speedway or from your local parts house and your all set.
Why use 2 right side arms instead of 1 left and 1 right? I'm gathering every tid-bit of info i can and making notes on everything i will need to do for my swap.

[regal81455]

Why use 2 right side arms instead of 1 left and 1 right? I'm gathering every tid-bit of info i can and making notes on everything i will need to do for my swap.

Those cheap a-arms are intended for dirt track use so the left one is not the same dimensionally as the right ( helps make the constant left turn more efficient ). The rights however are the dimensionally the same installed on either side. Several people have used these in Gbody's successfully but I myself spent a few extra $$ and went with the SPC fully adjustables...

As for the need for them on the swap it really helps when you are putting headers on the 455 - eliminates the need to grind on the stock upper. Otherwise if your just using stock manifolds - its really not needed.

[regal81455]

... pics of yesterday.

After work today, I stopped by the SHOP ... more things were done; those pics tomorrow ... very tired --- work, the Buick, and painting our new 3-bedroom apartment ... the OCD-way (lollll).:sleep:

Starting look like a runner bud! We're all pullin' for you on startup day - we wanna hear some grunt!

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Starting look like a runner bud! We're all pullin' for you on startup day - we wanna hear some grunt!


Thanks Dawg. :TU:

I searched all over (local speed shops/auto parts) for a lower radiator hose for ther Buick 455. I finally found it at NAPA ... I had to order it today ... it arrives tomorrow. Once the fans are on tomorrow ... we start my motor.:TU: I am already having trouble sleeping (lol).

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... took this pic today. After the lower radiator hose tomorrow, the engine/tranny/rear gets filled with oil & the Griffin and resivour tank gets filled with 50/50 coolant, and the dual Derale 4000-cfm puller electric fans will spin as we start the motor TOMORROW 4-SURE.:TU:

[455'ed80Regal]

Those cheap a-arms are intended for dirt track use so the left one is not the same dimensionally as the right ( helps make the constant left turn more efficient ). The rights however are the dimensionally the same installed on either side. Several people have used these in Gbody's successfully but I myself spent a few extra $$ and went with the SPC fully adjustables...

As for the need for them on the swap it really helps when you are putting headers on the 455 - eliminates the need to grind on the stock upper. Otherwise if your just using stock manifolds - its really not needed.
Thanks a lot. That explains everything. My previous Regal had sbc in it and i had to grind the upper a-arm a bit, so i would imagine there would be a lot more with the added width of the 455 and the larger tubed headers.

[455'ed80Regal]

... took this pic today. After the lower radiator hose tomorrow, the engine/tranny/rear gets filled with oil & the Griffin and resivour tank gets filled with 50/50 coolant, and the dual Derale 4000-cfm puller electric fans will spin as we start the motor TOMORROW 4-SURE.:TU:
That engine looks really sweet sittin in there. How much clearance do you have around the headers? I would imagine there isn't much wiggle room at all?

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

That engine looks really sweet sittin in there. How much clearance do you have around the headers? I would imagine there isn't much wiggle room at all?


You are correct. I measured 1-inch between the upper control arm's bolts. The motor could have gone @ 1/2-inch over to the driver's side ... providing more clearance/wiggle room on the passenger's side. If I am not mistaken, the Regal sits @ 2-inches lower in the front. Can this be because of the ChromeMoly upper control arms??? (I feel this Buick 455Regal is heavier than my Pee-Gee Buick 455Regal ...
this one has headers and the heavy deep tranny oil pan). :Dou:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

99% COMPLETED.:TU:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYumQCBGQU4

[monkeyy337]

Thanks Dawg. :TU:

I searched all over (local speed shops/auto parts) for a lower radiator hose for ther Buick 455. I finally found it at NAPA ... I had to order it today ... it arrives tomorrow. Once the fans are on tomorrow ... we start my motor.:TU: I am already having trouble sleeping (lol).What was the NAPA part number for the lower hose?

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Small/Important issue;:Dou:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96UXmmFeB1o

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

What was the NAPA part number for the lower hose?


NAPA ordered from a warehouse somewhere in NJ, a 1973 Buick 455 Electra 225 (NBH curved radiator hose) #7644 (price $18.45). :TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

The fans only need to be wired (3:23pm today when I left the SHOP after work).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwyXiIfvVYo&feature=channel

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... a few pics. Sitting low in the front ... and the twin Derale 4000-cfm electric puller fans.

START-UP IS TOMORROW 4SURE.:TU: :TU: :TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

????
:pray:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1bPgS18Aew

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... Monday is the start-up date ... I think? lol Giovanni is off till Monday ... HIS SHOP.:Dou:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1bPgS18Aew

:Dou:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Meineke anyone??? lol :TU:

Actually, the Olds 307 that once resided in my Regal Special-T had an aftermarket dual exhaust system already on it when I bought it. I hoped the tranny crossmember mod for the Olds 307 would be fine for my Buick 462 ... wrong. I already contacted gbodyparts.com for a used/cheap 200r4 crossmember for my visit to Meineke. so-far-so-good.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... WATER LEAK FROM THE HEADER BOLTS;:shock:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewhs6A__vuk

[rack-attack]

I don't understand why you would have to retorque a head bolt on a motor that hasn't been run yet??

maybe head gasket upside down or wrong heads and wrong gasket for the year heads

[bostongsx]

... WATER LEAK FROM THE HEADER BOLTS;:shock:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewhs6A__vuk

Head bolt or header bolt?

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Header bolt.

[bostongsx]

Any more news, thats a first for me hopefully not a cracked head

[kick71]

Header bolt.
Hows that even possible?

You sure its not leaking down from another spot and on to the header bolt??

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

DAN-SMITH-BUILT Buick 455
Stage-1 Regal's cam break-in!!!:laugh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5g77XUH_K0

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Hows that even possible?

You sure its not leaking down from another spot and on to the header bolt??

... the HEADS were NOT torqued-down enough. We moved my motor around a whole lot prior to putting it in the Regal.:Dou:

[moleary]

Any update? I think I am experiencing withdrawls

[v8regalowner]

Any update? I think I am experiencing withdrawls

lol i was thinking the same thing.must not be good.:(

[monkeyy337]

lol i was thinking the same thing.must not be good.:(X3

[bostongsx]

Either that or he hasn't stopped driving it yet:3gears:

[v8regalowner]

Either that or he hasn't stopped driving it yet:3gears:

i hope your right, i dont wish motor problems on anyone. i know what a p.i.t.a this swap can be though. took me about a year and a half by the time i was finished screwing around and frustrating myself. crazy thing is a can do a 3.8 to 350 swap in about 5 hours lol.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... LMATFOOO! Sorry to disappoint you guys, but all is FANTASTIC!!!:bla:

Check "nastechengineering7" on Youtube for further info.
The car is HOME awaiting insurance.:grin:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

lol i was thinking the same thing.must not be good.:(


... Sorry Charlie (lollll). The Regal is HOME awaiting plates and registration.:bla:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Either that or he hasn't stopped driving it yet:3gears:


POSITIVE is good. Thanks, dude.:bglasses:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Any update? I think I am experiencing withdrawls


I am NOT surprised; human-nature IS human-nature. That's WHY people tend to watch the NEWS; for hopes of seeing/hearing about turmoil & havoc.

Have a great day.:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

Any update? I think I am experiencing withdrawls


LOLLL.:beer

[moleary]

I was actually looking forward to an update showing you leaving the shop with the DS BUICK 455 Regal barely viisble behind a smokey sideways tire assult burn out....:Do No:




I am NOT surprised; human-nature IS human-nature. That's WHY people tend to watch the NEWS; for hopes of seeing/hearing about turmoil & havoc.

Have a great day.:TU:

[bostongsx]

Glad to hear all is well:TU:

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

I was actually looking forward to an update showing you leaving the shop with the DS BUICK 455 Regal barely viisble behind a smokey sideways tire assult burn out....:Do No:


LOLLL; I wanted it to go that way ... but I get plates in @ 2-weeks... then we see some ACTION.:laugh: I have to remember that I warped the axles in the GN rear on my Pee-Gee 462 ... doing burnouts.

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

... live/in-person, my D&S Performance Buick 462 sounds IDENTICAL to this guy's Buick, but mine has a little more CHOP. I can't wait to record my Regal with a good quality camcorder ... NOT with my cellphone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ9ETraO2Nc

[STAGE-2 TORQUE]

My new 100-amp "1-wire" alternator came yesterday. I am off from work Tuesday-Friday ... just to tie-up loose-ends on my Regal. SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.:grin: My tranny-builder "Tyrone" and I are installing my 5-inch Monster tach, MSD-6AL-2, TCI Rachet Shifter, and wiring the guages for electricity/light.

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... minutes after initial "TA290-08H" cam break-in at Ashley's Carb Shop in Brooklyn.:grin:

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My Dan Smith Buick 455 Stage-1 Regal is 100% ready for STREET and STRIP DUTY!!! Insurance and Registration is coming soon.:grin: :grin: :grin:

Sorry for the poor sound quality again.:ball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kdhX9CUew4

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... I spotted ... actually, I HEARD this baby today in front of the new apartment;

PS ... it ain't a BUICK.:Dou:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0KrRxI9RDk

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... FYI;

... God only knows how my Stage-1 Regal ran; the alternator (original one I got from Summit that Giovanny's Auto Repair installed/wired ... at the SHOP) was wired into a "skinny green wire" for power ...

Tyrone and I located the correct "thick red wire" and I wired the new 100-amp alternator Summit sent as a replacement (I love Summit). Additionally, Giovanny's installed my dual Derale's fan power wire UNDER the '87 Regal's upper radiator support ... which had already began to cut into the insulation (I corrected that), they cut my lower radiator hose too short ... had to order/install a new one myself, the fuel pump fitting to the carb was 6-turns loose ... as well as the fitting that connects the -8 fuel line to the pump was 7-turns loose and NONE had Teflon tape!!! I corrected that also. I spent 5-hours thus far between work in getting my Regal correct.

Tyrone (an adamant PONTIAC455-Guy) ... loves the way my D&S 455 sounds. He pointed out hardly any engine shake/movement ... and he LOVES the cam sound. He says my compression ratio is more than 10:1 due to the head work Dan did (???). Tyrone also told me that raising the idle to @ 1200-rpm will HIDE some of the cam's CHOP ... to avoid Police visits. Tyrone also stated that the engine burns less gas this way also(?).

We are installing the 5"-Monster Tach and the MSD6AL-2 next week maybe ... as soon as I get the car insured. Then ... off to Mineke.

In closing, my Regal is ready for the streets. I also need to remove some of the shims from behind the new chrome-moly upper control arms ... the front tires "toe-in" alot. (lol)

Thanks again for your support & expertise.:beer

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... gotta' call Brian at Gbodyparts.com. The original Buick 455 Rivera's LONG-NOSE waterpump pulley we modified with a spacer to work with my Buick 455 Stage-1 Regal does not allow the power-steering belt to line up correctly. I have no power steering ... WHICH SUCKS BIG-TIME, until Brian hooks me up WITH A BUICK 455 SHORT-NOSE WATER-PUMP PULLEY. I bought a SHORT-NOSE WP from TA Performance.

DMV & Meineke next week:3gears: .

We moved into the new apartment on Friday ... haven't messed-with my Buick in DAYS.:rant:

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.:laugh:

[kick71]

1200 rpm idle is really high.

[rack-attack]

1200 rpm idle is really high.

Not when I was running the 107 kenne bell cam............

1200 was just about stalling:laugh:

[kick71]

Not when I was running the 107 kenne bell cam............

1200 was just about stalling:laugh:

I bet that was fun to parallel park in the city:laugh:

but he's using a smaller 290 08H cam, seems pretty high for a daily driver

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Not when I was running the 107 kenne bell cam............

1200 was just about stalling:laugh:


COOL.

What was the intake/exhaust lift on that cam please???:shock:

[RegalBeagle]

Glad to hear that all has bone well so far. You have to get us some good video of your Regal when its all done.

Congrats!!!!:beer

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Good Morning, gentlemen.

My Buick 455 Regal is NOT getting fuel! Please HELP!
I am using TA Performance's Street/Strip mechanical pump with a single 1/2" braided stainless steel single FEED line.

Thanks much.

[bostongsx]

Check for fuel on the inlet of the pump. Crack the discharge at the pump and crank the car ....ect all the way to the carb

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Thanks much. How do I crack the discharge on the pump, please?

[DaWildcat]

I think what he means is "disconnect the return line at the pump".

Devon

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Hey, Devon. Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks for the reply, but I only have a single FEED line from tank to fuel pump.



I think what he means is "disconnect the return line at the pump".

Devon

[No Lift]

I think what he's saying is disconnect the line at the carb, crank the engine and see if you have any fuel there. Get help to watch and have a catch can because it can come shooting out. If you do then the problem is at the carb. If not then disconnect the line at the inlet to the pump and see if there is any fuel there.

This is why I like an electric pump for cars that sit. You can turn the pump on, get fuel to the carb, pump it a few times before you crank, and get a faster start.

One last thing. Is there gas in the tank?

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I think what he's saying is disconnect the line at the carb, crank the engine and see if you have any fuel there. Get help to watch and have a catch can because it can come shooting out. If you do then the problem is at the carb. If not then disconnect the line at the inlet to the pump and see if there is any fuel there.

This is why I like an electric pump for cars that sit. You can turn the pump on, get fuel to the carb, pump it a few times before you crank, and get a faster start.

One last thing. Is there gas in the tank?

MIKE! It's an honor.

Yes there is fuel in the tank LOL. I will do as you asked. The 1st time the engine was started, a wet-vac had to be used at the fuel line that goes into the carb. Ever since, I have to pour fuel into the Carb. I also cannot locate the carb to throttle cable fasteners.

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I spoke with Brian at GBODYPARTS.COM the other day.

Brian is sending me the correct SHORT-NOSE pulley for the short-nosed water pump on my motor. I also ordered the lower alternator brace, and the hardware needed to finally remove the "bread-tie" from my 800-cfm Rochester's throttle linkage, AND CONNECT IT CORRECTLY.:laugh:

Next week, I am ordering the g-body dual exhaust crossmember next week that Brian has for $150 ... then I can have the true-duals installed at Meineke.:laugh:

I will have power-steering this weekend. The long-nose Buick 455 water pump pulley we added a spacer in ... totally threw the power steering pulley's grooves out of line with the WP-pulley.

SO-FAR-SO-GOOD.
After Christmas ... I GET INSURANCE FOR THE BUICK!!!:3gears:

Also, check Youtube under "NASTECHENGINEERING7" to see the 1967 NOVA that was in front of my house last night!

[bigdawg70]

Im assuming your trying to start it you could pressurize the tank with a blow gun or you could pour a lil fuel down the carb and start to get the pump goin fast enough to start sucking. If you do both combined you should get fuel real fast.

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Im assuming your trying to start it you could pressurize the tank with a blow gun or you could pour a lil fuel down the carb and start to get the pump goin fast enough to start sucking. If you do both combined you should get fuel real fast.

Thanks much. Since day-1, I had to pour fuel into the carb to get the Regal running WITH VISIBLE FUEL IN THE TRANSPARENT FILTER. now, NO fuel shows in the filter... bone-dry from pump to filter. This weekend i will know for sure what the problem is.:TU:

Thanks much.:TU:

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My BABY!!!:beer

I will address the fuel delivery issue this weekend for sure.:cool:

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FUEL PLEASE!:Do No:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4spnbnZ8Fs

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... on Monday, I change again the fuel line from the Regal's tank to fuel pump; I purchased 10-feet of 3/8" rubber line to trouble-shoot with.:pray:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmHJZzvLzNk



:pray:

[regal81455]

Have you done what No lift suggested yet? You need to verify you have no fuel coming from the pump first. Also, did you say you have no vent? You need a vent line or the tank will collapse on itself. You have to have a way to introduce air in the tank in order to allow for the suction side to work.

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Have you done what No lift suggested yet?
YES. I DID THAT YESTERDAY.:TU:

You need to verify you have no fuel coming from the pump first. Also, did you say you have no vent? You need a vent line or the tank will collapse on itself. You have to have a way to introduce air in the tank in order to allow for the suction side to work.

TA performance had me crank the motor with the Regal's gas cap off ... still NO FUEL.:Do No:
Hey, doesn't the gas-cap assist in venting of the gas tank???

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I love the way my Regal's engine bay looks; wait till the summer of 2011!!!:TU:

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The other day, Tim at TA Performance asked me what's my fuel pressure; I had NO clue.

The fuel pressure gauge, mounting cup and the stainless steel hose arrived from Summit 2-days ago. The gauge was WRONG (was not liquid filled, and the mounting cup they sent me is chrome.:af:

The CORRECT liquid-filled fuel pressure gauge and gauge mounting cup (black) arrives Monday, and gets installed. Then I change the fuel line from pump-to-tank. I feel my Regal will start right up after that.:TU:

TA says I should have 8-PSI of fuel pressure.

MONDAY IS THE DAY.:TU:

[regal81455]

TA performance had me crank the motor with the Regal's gas cap off ... still NO FUEL.:Do No:
Hey, doesn't the gas-cap assist in venting of the gas tank???

The short answer - yes and no.

1. Are you sure you have a vented gas cap? Ive heard of people drilling a small hole in the cap to make one vented but I would not.

2. Usually they are not sufficient for the actual venting of the tank as it relates to internal vacuum's - at least not from what Ive heard. Im guessing this is the reason why you will find a vent line on every car ever produced and then if the system requires it a return.

Lets start from the beginning...

1. Is the gas tank old?
2. Is the pickup/sending unit old?
3. Can you disconnect the line at the tank and the pump and blow compressed air through it? Perhaps you dislodged something in the tank and have a blockage. Maybe its in the pickup? I would work back from the pump. Starting with the shooting air in the line from front to back - probably will required two people to hear...

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The short answer - yes and no.

1. Are you sure you have a vented gas cap? Ive heard of people drilling a small hole in the cap to make one vented but I would not.

2. Usually they are not sufficient for the actual venting of the tank as it relates to internal vacuum's - at least not from what Ive heard. Im guessing this is the reason why you will find a vent line on every car ever produced and then if the system requires it a return.

Lets start from the beginning...

1. Is the gas tank old?
2. Is the pickup/sending unit old?
3. Can you disconnect the line at the tank and the pump and blow compressed air through it? Perhaps you dislodged something in the tank and have a blockage. Maybe its in the pickup? I would work back from the pump. Starting with the shooting air in the line from front to back - probably will required two people to hear...


Thanks much. The tank was in use with Oldsmobile 307 engine prior to Buick 455. The tank was never cleaned out. I will do as you suggested. I feel my issue is pump backwards., not the pump. Thanks again.

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"LOVE AT FIRST DRIVE!!!"


The pinnacle of the era of Buick performance ushered by the new powerplant was achieved in 1970, when Buick pulled out the performance stops, and stuffed the gargantuan 4.310-inch bore, 3.900-inch stroke, 455 cubic-inch mill into the intermediate GS. The GS455 in that year was available with the mighty Stage 1 455, with a conservatively rated 360 hp at 4,600 rpm, but more notably, an unreal 510 lb-ft of torque, coming in at a locomotive-like 2,800 rpm. This Buick powerplant produced more torque than was available in any production GM vehicle, and that included the best from Chevy, Pontiac and Oldsmobile. In 1970, the Buick was exceeded in outright torque only by the much larger 472 and 500 cubic-inch Cadillac engines, though even these did not match the low-end bulldozer torque of the mighty Buick.:TU: :TU: :TU:


http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/buick/bigblock/0607em_buick_engine_build/index.html

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Gentlemen;

While under my Stage-1 Regal today addressing my fuel delivery issue, and I noticed that the factory vent & return lines were never blocked off since a single 1/2" fuel line was was implemented. CAN THIS CAUSE MY FUEL ISSUE???

[Trevor455]

I have a 455 Regal myself. The fuel system I use is the stock tank, and lines with a Mallory 110 pump and a stage 1 mechanical pump. I did block off my vent and return lines. It has never had an issue with pressure, starting or running. It is a cast iron headed low compression motor at 530 Horsepower full weight regal that runs 11.30s. Sounds like to me you have a blocked line, or possibly a pump that is not working or has debris in it. Can you hear the electric pump run? Is it hot wired with a relay? If so is the relay working?