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Jim Weise
01-27-2010, 09:01 PM
Hi there, welcome guys..

Please take a minute to read the posting rules, located as stickies in the bench forum.

Enjoy! :TU:

JW

Nothingface5384
01-27-2010, 09:16 PM
Hope you guys enjoy youre new spot on the site!

this is comming from a toyota guy :laugh:

Macjeeper
01-27-2010, 09:59 PM
Hey Guys, awesome!

Thanks for the moderators of this site to acknowledge the other Buicks powerplants in other vehicles.

We will try to keep on promoting the better 350v8 version than the other GM product, lol

I have had my Jeep J-3600 Gladiator trucks longer than my 1963 Special / Skylarks, with another 1969 350v8 truck in storage and spares from at least 3-4 blocks at the house, + a 1970 Electra 455v8 on the side yard with trans.

Also, have a 1968 M-715 truck in storage, along with a 1964 J-300 small window cab truck and a 1981 J-10 Honcho stepside w/6 Cyl.

Also have a 1965 Chris-Craft XL-175 SunLounger boat with the OMC/Buick 225v6 I/O powerplant.

So I will change my info block soon to reflect my vehicles, sorry no imports yet, but I'm interested in either Alfa Romeo's / Fiat brands if I can fit my 6'-4" frame inside one.

Thanks again, will look forward to lots of interest in the J-Series or Wagoneer vehicles with the Buick350v8's

Mac

BlueSky
01-27-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks Jim & Mac---

It's nice to see I'm not the only one with two intersecting worlds of interest-- I think it is important to promote our common interest in Buick 350 engines, for one, to show the aftermarket how many of these powerplants are still out there.

I'm also appalled when people assume Jeeps are always AMC powered. If you ordered a Wagoneer or Gladiator pickup with a V8 engine from mid- '68 through mid '71, then it came from the factory with a Buick 350-2 bbl. CJ owners for years have been pulling the odd-fire 225 V6 Buick engines factory installed during roughly that same era and bolting a Buick 350 right up to the same bell housing. I know a LOT of gearheads that don't know these facts. Maybe this forum will help spread the knowledge.:Smarty:

It's important to me for a Buick powered Kaiser-Era Jeep to stay that way and be upgraded with a 4 bbl intake or a 455 instead of an AMC 401 like their buddy's Cherokee Chief.....or much worse-- a Chebbie wrong-block...:boring:

Thanks for your interest in these incredibly rugged, simple, useful and POWERFUL trucks, Buick V8 faithful.... Look around, you may have more V8Buick folks in your area than you thought....

Tad
01-28-2010, 06:55 AM
Tad Waves Hello :beers2:

I tried to update my sig line:

'66-86 Jeep Wagoneer
B350, TH400, Dodge NP208, HD44 Front, Welded 14-Bolt Rear, 6" stretched WB, 11" of Lift on 35'sIt's really quite a conglomeration of parts from over the years but it started out as a 1970 w/a Buick 350.

(looks like I need 10 posts to link up a decent sized pic)

It's been sporting a '71 Skylark 350 since '02 and the original engine is sitting in an '83 FSJ Chero frame with another TH400/NP205 waiting to become a full caged buggy, time and $$ permitting.

Thanks,
Tad

bmcmillan
01-28-2010, 12:58 PM
What a neat forum this will be.:TU:
Dan, Do you have any pictures of your 69 jeep trucks?
If so, please post a few.

sailbrd
01-28-2010, 02:01 PM
I don't know... they may be a bunch of knuckledraggers... should fit right in. :grin:

BlueSky
01-28-2010, 02:51 PM
What a neat forum this will be.:TU:
Dan, Do you have any pictures of your 69 jeep trucks?
If so, please post a few.

I'll get at my other computer this evening and do that, Brian--- Nothing spectacular, but they were close and available. I searched for two years for a TH400/B-350 Gladiator in the PNW and found two in a month... I plan on using the best of both to do a driver quality resto on the short (7') bed J2000. Somewhere along the line the J3000 will turn from farm runner to parts hulk. I look forward to the finished product being a nice compliment to my Buicks....

BlueSky
01-28-2010, 02:53 PM
I don't know... they may be a bunch of knuckledraggers... should fit right in. :grin:

Amen, Doug, that would be me......:laugh:

BlueSky
01-28-2010, 11:20 PM
Here you go, Brian-- not much to look at, but both could be running with a days work. The Big J3000 long bed appears to have the original '69 350 (early style rockers) with a '72 cast 4bbl intake and a q-jet added. After some diagnosis it appears the fuel pump eccentric lobe has a nice groove worn in it (as I've seen happens occasionally to members here) so the fuel pump won't even prime at all--- the PO complained of a lack of top end power, some had thought the cam was going flat... I'll either change the eccentric or the engine for a spare onhand, we'll see.. The white J2000 has a '72 350-2 with a freeze plug popped out... I have a rubber temp replacement, we'll see if there is anything else wrong with it... I have a rebuilt '72 350-4 with low miles I plan on going over for the J2000 when it is done. Also planning on a front disc conversion, too.
Interesting, both trucks were originally turquoise, with the J2000 having a matching 'Custom Cab' interior.

bmcmillan
01-29-2010, 09:41 AM
Thanks Dan;
I have alot of interest in the J-truck with the buick heartbeat.
I would like to put together a tow/plow truck for myself.
My dad always had a jeep when we were younger. I would like a J-3000 or something equivalent to a 3/4 ton jeep. My crazy thoughts are a V-plow, and towing a (28ft) fifth wheel camper.
I have alot to learn about the J-truck.

BlueSky
01-29-2010, 02:22 PM
You sound a lot like me--- I've learned a lot about these trucks at IFSJA.org and from a couple of Jeep books currently available. I already mentioned which years had B-350s-- another thing to look at is the VIN in the door jamb/a-pillar-- if it has a 'W' it's a 5000' Gross 1/2 ton, 'X' 6000' (heavy half?) and 'Y' its a 7000' 3/4 ton. Mine are both 6000'-- seem to be the most common, possibly. J2000 is a short wheelbase w/ 7' bed, J3000 6" longer w/ 8' bed and starting in 1970 a J4000 had wheelbase extended 6 more inches, to fit conventional campers, I believe. last year for J3000 was 1970. These trucks can be hard to find, epecially in good shape, but they tend to be cheap, unlike our Buick A- bodies!!!
Also, mid 1970 the grille switched to the full length 'razor' grille so many associate to '70's full size jeeps....

bmcmillan
01-29-2010, 08:27 PM
Great info;
I have been looking, but as you have mentioned. Tuff to find.
But I keep looking, things always pop up in the craziest places.
I really like that about the vin. I think a (heavy half)? would be a great
start.

59Willys455
01-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Hi Fellow Jeep Freaks!

I thought maybe I was a "lone wolf" on this board to have a Willys panel truck & a '70 BBB 455 "stump puller" out of an Electra 225 with 86k on the odometer. I've noticed the two of them making eyes at each other & muttering something about hooking up. Could it be that they would like to become one?

I found a '59 Willys panel truck about 15 miles from home a little over a year ago that came from Texas in '79 & hasn't been out of the barn or on the road since. Someone has really turned it into a Heinz 57 variety before it came to Indiana. The title says it's a '61, 4cyl, 2wd. The data tag translates to a '59, 4cyl, 2wd. It actually has an old flathead 6cyl in it with what appears to be a Ford rear. It also has some stuff underneath that appears to be from a 4wd. It needs the usual door bottoms, front floors, body support braces, etc, replaced. Some idiot welded the hood hinges to both the hood & the firewall, so now I will have to try & grind those pieces apart.

A friend of mine has a '51 Willys panel truck that he's owned for over 30 years. Last winter he put his 3rd brand "x" 350/350 in it. This winter is supposed to be a Ford 9" rear.

I've been debating whether to go ahead & build it with the BBB heatrbeat or sell it or concentrate on the roadster that's been occupying shop space for way too long. If I sell it, the roadster will inherit the BBB along with the '87 GN 200-4r tranny. Any thoughts or ideas?

Thom Kleckner
aka: 59Willys455

59Willys455
01-30-2010, 09:13 PM
Hi Fellow Jeep Freaks!

I thought maybe I was a "lone wolf" on this board to have a Willys panel truck & a '70 BBB 455 "stump puller" out of an Electra 225 with 86k on the odometer. I've noticed the two of them making eyes at each other & muttering something about hooking up. Could it be that they would like to become one?

I found a '59 Willys panel truck about 15 miles from home a little over a year ago that came from Texas in '79 & hasn't been out of the barn or on the road since. Someone has really turned it into a Heinz 57 variety before it came to Indiana. The title says it's a '61, 4cyl, 2wd. The data tag translates to a '59, 4cyl, 2wd. It actually has an old flathead 6cyl in it with what appears to be a Ford rear. It also has some stuff underneath that appears to be from a 4wd. It needs the usual door bottoms, front floors, body support braces, etc, replaced. Some idiot welded the hood hinges to both the hood & the firewall, so now I will have to try & grind those pieces apart.

A friend of mine has a '51 Willys panel truck that he's owned for over 30 years. Last winter he put his 3rd brand "x" 350/350 in it. This winter is supposed to be a Ford 9" rear.

I've been debating whether to go ahead & build it with the BBB heatrbeat or sell it or concentrate on the roadster that's been occupying shop space for way too long. If I sell it, the roadster will inherit the BBB along with the '87 GN 200-4r tranny. Any thoughts or ideas?

Thom Kleckner
aka: 59Willys455

sean Buick 76
01-30-2010, 09:57 PM
Welcome Jeep people!

Keep in mind that the Buick 350 came in BUick cars from 68-81 so there are a lot of us running these powerplants and we have experiences that may be usefull for you.

The Smallblock section above the tech section is a great spot for 350 chat....

BBBB64lark
01-31-2010, 12:04 AM
Welcome Jeepers. I've always thought Buick torque worked great in trucks. I miss my 67 J2000. I removed the original 327 Rambler v8 and put in a Buick455/T400. Easy swap using factory 69 Jeep parts. Semi floater Dana 60 from a 71 J4000. 4" lift on 35" tires. That truck would go almost anywhere and take anything I could dish out. I also used to love picking on 5.0 mustangs with it.

1967GS340
01-31-2010, 02:00 AM
Glad to see that you guys could put together enough people to make this work. I think that it's going to be a good thing for everyone in the long run.
Welcome to the board!

Hector
01-31-2010, 02:23 AM
I'm with all the others welcoming all the new members and thank V8Buick for making it happen.

Perhaps one of you can start a thread with links to the history(prod. numbers,years,models,etc) for these vehicles for those of us not familiar with them.Anyone with pictures of a stock one,I would like to see the lay out of the 350 in the engine bay.Good luck with your builds.

Tad
01-31-2010, 10:07 AM
...Anyone with pictures of a stock one,I would like to see the lay out of the 350 in the engine bay.Good luck with your builds.
This is about as stock as I can get. It goes back and forth between my '70 Wagoneer and the '71 Skylark I bought for the engine swap.

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Not a great pic, it's been resized and transfered many times since '02.
Also: I didn't buy it to just trash the Skylark, it was a local 4 door with a bad rear hit that didn't sell on Ebay. I kept the drivetrain and everything else went to a local Buick guy I know.

EDIT: That came out really small, I'll link the bigger version when I make it to 10 posts.

New SBB
02-07-2010, 09:36 PM
Nutha Jeep guy in the house. Still working on mating it with the SBB 350. Should be a hoot. I love the tech tips provided here. Something so seemingly similar to a SBC is different enough to be a mystery to many.
Thanks for providing all the great info. I especially love not seeing "Use the Search tool, jackass." every other thread. Sometimes it just doesnt answer the question. Buick guys keep it fun.

Macjeeper
02-09-2010, 09:05 AM
Last December 5th, 2009, the Yahoogroups California Full-Size-Jeep Association had a FSJ Jeep Roundup up to the top of Mt. Diablo State Park.

We had a great turnout, overcast and foggy to the top in NorCal.

My yellow 1970 J-3000 Gladiator, 1976 J-20, 1967 J-3000 Gladiator, 1969 J-2000 Gladiator, 1973 Jeep Wagoneer and a 1975 Jeep Wagoneer.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/AF_MAC/Jeep/100_0335.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n40/AF_MAC/Jeep/100_0331.jpg

Mac

Tad
02-11-2010, 06:29 AM
That's a lot of brow in one spot.

chryco63
02-18-2010, 12:05 PM
Mac, love the pictures! I know next to nothing about these Jeeps, but I want one of these now! :TU:

lkmarsh
03-03-2010, 10:04 AM
I don't know... they may be a bunch of knuckledraggers... should fit right in. :grin:

What knuckles... I left all mine under the hood... besides, we all like flat-top knuckles! Great pics, Mac, really do wish I could have been there, my Wag would have looked right at home next to the grey J truck.

geologyjeep
03-05-2010, 09:34 PM
I've had a '69 Wagoneer since 1973 and when I went to paint it found it had been rolled and repaired so put on '68 body. Uninsured motorist shortened one side when my wife stopped for a red light and he sped up to follow her through. Now body is mostly 1979. Forgot how many 350cid Buick engines I've put in but it runs like a scalded cat. Have towed travel trailer over 10K miles and only problem was stopping once asbestos brake shoes went away. Finally swapped '78 Cherokee D-44 axles with front disk brakes and it's much better. I have found it to be a very satisfactory vehicle for hauling family, accessing mineral collecting localities, and hauling all kinds of things. Like the Buick engine much better than the AMC 360 in a friends '87 Wagoneer. Hope to be swapping 455 in to provide more towing power on the speed bumps west of Denver where I live. Any suggestions as to problems installing big block. Such as motor mounts, etc. Mr. Ed Thornton Colorado

RAMKAT2
03-15-2010, 11:58 PM
I had a bright yellow/woody 76 Wagoneer with a 401 in it several years ago. Dang gas line from the cap to the tank leaked so bad you couldn't stand to ride in it. It drove well and would climb anything with the differentials locked in. Wife said it was turning into a pile of rust and an eyesore (actually, it was way beyond that), so it had to go.
Anyway, I am glad to see you jeep guys got your own spot here on V8Buick!

geologyjeep
03-19-2010, 10:29 PM
I agree that the Buick power shouldn't be forgotten. I'm trading an '87 Wagoneer with the AMC 360 for another '68 Wagoneer with Buick power and Super trim options, although this one needs body work I've got another '68 parts car with good running gear to give it's all for the new one. My main ride, as I mentioned before is a '69 with much of a '79 body used to fix damage. I owned and restored a '67 Riv with the 430 and loved the way it ran. Just couldn't get interior back together so traded it back to the guy I bought it from. So I'm wanting the big block Buick power in my driver. Great ideas. Once again if anyone knows of any kinks when swapping 455 into the FSJ frame please let me know. I'm old enough that I don't like learning the hard way any more. Mr. Ed Thornton Colorado

racerx8413
05-27-2010, 06:47 PM
AMC Powered, but I just finished my YJ build, powered by 77 360, with Dana 44's and th400 Auto transmission.

Just finished a fuel injection install, and my 2nd dash rebuilt. I'm rather proud of it :)

My riv is my new project now.

After throttle body installed,

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PqdiviWwCbY/S3QXgFM-9mI/AAAAAAAAI5Y/Bne45z_cvj4/s720/DSC_1852.JPG


with New custom lasercut dash work, and new wiring harness :) Keep in mind, this tub is a YJ, not a CJ ;)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PqdiviWwCbY/S8xd9Qr1b9I/AAAAAAAAKYw/AJnqUBjJO6c/s720/DSC_1898.JPG

swampedge
06-01-2010, 07:39 AM
This is great that you folks opened up your doors to us Buick powered Jeep folks. We have a few Jeeps with B-350's with 4V carbs. 1970 J-4000, 1968 Wagoneer B-350 4V, 1970 Wagoneer with B-350 4V and a 1976 Cherokee that's getting the B-350 and Turbo 400 tranny. I can't post any pics as I'm brand new and this is my first post.
Jim

skunk whisperer
06-13-2010, 08:55 PM
I, too, would like to say "Thank You" to all that are responsible for this section!
I've owned a '68 CJ5 w/SBB 350 for 10 years now, and that motor is about the only thing I haven't rebuilt/refabbed on this rig. It was that motor that started my obsession for 350's (now having 4 more in the garage).

My "new" obsession is to swap a BBB 430 into my '73 International Harvester 3/4 ton, 4x4, short box stepside. We'll see what I can find!!!!!!!!

Poppaluv
06-13-2010, 09:36 PM
Well Brandy's '88 Grang Wagoneer was just delivered. Nice!!!!

Hopefully by the time it's needed, I'll have the knowledge to install the extra 455 I have. I suppose it's a lot of fabrication required?????:Do No:

austingta
06-13-2010, 09:54 PM
My neighbor right across the street has a nice original low mileage 69 (I think it's a 69) Commander with the V6. I've helped him bleed the brakes and get it going, and it's a very cool Jeep.

swampedge
06-14-2010, 07:26 PM
Can this thread be a sticky? That way this post stays on the top. Thanks.
Jim

Ristow
08-28-2010, 07:52 PM
new guy.

'69 Wagoneer. Buick power.

saved from getting parted out. now titled and plated. runs smooth as glass.

Poppaluv
08-28-2010, 10:33 PM
Hey Ristow, glad to see ya over here. I'm new over there....:pp

sean Buick 76
08-29-2010, 12:53 PM
new guy.

'69 Wagoneer. Buick power.

saved from getting parted out. now titled and plated. runs smooth as glass.

Welcome!

Ristow
09-06-2010, 09:02 AM
yah,you'd think i could at least catch a break in the oil pump department with the different motor but no.....:Dou:

Poppaluv
09-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Hey at least it's still in the front!!!! :)

lkmarsh
10-10-2010, 01:41 AM
Thanks for making room for us over here! Considering putting my spare 350 into my Chevelle wagon. Now THATS Irony. And Ristow, I think aluminum oil pumps are an iffy proposition, no matter who makes them.

Addicted
01-11-2012, 10:00 AM
new guy.

'69 Wagoneer. Buick power.

saved from getting parted out. now titled and plated. runs smooth as glass.

Yep, and he loves it too. Can't decide if he wants to sell it or not.

Addicted
01-11-2012, 10:01 AM
Another new guy here. I love the Buick powered Wagoneers. I was even considering putting in a 455. It just doesn't fit my intended use for my Wagoneer. Although I would love to have the torque the 455 provides at such a wonderfully low RPM.

sean Buick 76
01-14-2012, 04:03 AM
Another new guy here. I love the Buick powered Wagoneers. I was even considering putting in a 455. It just doesn't fit my intended use for my Wagoneer. Although I would love to have the torque the 455 provides at such a wonderfully low RPM.

Just leave the Buick 350 in there and add twin turbos!:3gears: Some T3t4 hybrids so it makes boost off idle!:TU:

Nothingface5384
01-14-2012, 12:30 PM
I still would love one of these buick powered jeeps.

such a heavy duty rig once you more so when you update the closed nuckel axles or open nuckle or kingpin axles!

Macjeeper
01-15-2012, 08:48 PM
Welcome to the group,

Old Yellow 1970 Gladiator truck still out there driving once a week, between the 1955 Willys CJ-5 and XJ Cherokee Jeep.

Been working on the M416B1 trailer and new acquisition a 1944 Army Signal Corps PE-197 Generator Set.

Mac