Poll for 1964-66 GS/Skylark Steering Wheels

[Jerseysky66]

Please help in this poll for 1964-66 Skylark Steering Wheels.
Thank you,
Jerseysky66 (Bob)

[Marco]

Nice poll Bob :Brow: :TU:

:beer

[cjp69]

I don't have a 64 anymore, since I sold mine a few years ago, but I went ahead and answered anyways, since I know the new owner isn't a member of this board.

There wasn't a choice for "perfect" or The nicest you have ever seen" so I went with very good.

Ex. car - 64 Skylark with 23k original miles, unrestored.

[Jerseysky66]

I figured if you have a perfect steering wheel than it is very good with no cracks. If it is not perfect and no cracks than it would be fair condition no cracks and if it is not cracked that much than it would be fair condition and some cracks and if it is really cracked than it would be bad condition mega cracks.
Thank you,
Jerseysky66 (Bob)

[Duane]

Guys,
I checked into making these a few years back when I had my 66 GS, but figured no one would buy them for the price I would have to ask.
Duane

[Marvin's65]

what where the prices?

[Duane]

I knew someone would ask,
I would have to check, but I think they would have sold for $275 each. Now that was back around 95, so with the price of molds/plastics today they would probably be in the $375-$400 range. This was with me re-using the old hubs and injecting the new plastic around it, like I do with the GSX wheels.
I could check into seeing what it would cost to have the hubs machined to make new wheels, but there probably isn't enough demand for these wheels even though there doesn't seem to be any decent ones for sale.
I would also need an NOS one to use for the mold, and a few cracked originals to take apart to determine what the internal skeleton looks like.
Duane

[Duane]

Doesn't anyone have a response to this?
Duane

[Mike Trom]

Would this be a simulated wood wheel?

P.S.

Duane, thanks for the info that you sent me (both times)...:TU:

[Duane]

Mike,
No these wheels are hard plastic and match the interior color of the car. The centers are dished out and the horn button fits inside this area. Actually they look pretty nice when new, but generally are prone to cracking. Decent ones are very hard to find and generally need repaired anyway. They were hard to find 10 years ago and were expensive then.

Glad to help with the info.
Duane

PS. If there was enough interest I would make these wheels. Again, I would require the use of an NOS wheel to make the mold, but it would be returned to the owner completely unharmed.

[Jerseysky66]

I know there is more than 13 owners of 64-66 GS/Skylarks:Do No: If you do have one of these cars please take part in this poll:blast:

What about the Special/or Wagon does it have the same steering wheel??

Thanks,
Jerseysky66 (Bob):beer

[Mike Trom]

Sorry to jump in on you 64-66 guys but I would like to know if the '68 3 spoke simulated wood wheel is being reproduced. Does anyone know? They were used on Chevy's so it would be hard to believe that they are not being made. I just have not seen them.

:Do No:

[BuickGS65]

Bob-

Try searching in the member list for 64 - 66 owners... Also check out this thread:

http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=183593&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1


I would love to see this get started...

[GS Spoken Here]

Duane, I would have one or two bad wheels you could take apart, and I would donate to the project. I have a 65 and 66 in need of original wheels. I have resorted to using a late model sport wheel on the 65 and a wood 68 on the 66. I would be interested in at least one if the project flies. Bill Sangster.

[Brian]

There is an NOS wheel on E-bay right now. I have found two NOS ones over the years--one is in my '64 and the other in my '66. I still need one for my '65 GS and would gladly buy one of the repos if you get them made. I have about 8, mega cracked cores laying in my attic I would donate for the cause.

[msc66]

I'm sorry but I couldn't pay that much for a new wheel. I would first have to try one of the wheel resto kits out there first. Has anyone ever tried these? I think Eastwood and por-15 have them.

[Brian]

I tried the repair putty and it looked good for about a year, and that was on a car that spend 360 out of 365 days sitting in the garage. After that, the putty started to separate from the plastic on the steering wheel because the plastic used to make those wheels continues to shrink.
What can be done though is to use that putty to repair a wheel to look perfect, then use that as the wheel to make the mold for a new one. I would be glad to take one of the cores I have and repair it in that way and donate it to be used to make the mold. It will take me some time, but when I am done it will be right. I have a steering wheel that is in relatively good shape that I keep stored in the house that could be used for this.

[65_Lark]

I have a 65 Skylark but I dont have the original steering wheel.

[Jerseysky66]

Does anyone know if I can add to the poll??? I guess I should have put a spot for Non Original wheel and maybe a spot for non original wanting original wheel.
Jerseysky66 (Bob)

[Marco]

Jerseysky66 said:Does anyone know if I can add to the poll??? I guess I should have put a spot for Non Original wheel and maybe a spot for non original wanting original wheel.
Jerseysky66 (Bob)

Done :TU:

[Jerseysky66]

Thanks Marco:TU:


Jerseysky66(Bob)

[ethan]

I think $400 is out of my price range for a repo steering wheel. It would certainly be nice to have one, but I think I could only spend about $200...

Mine isn't THAT bad... just a few cracks here and there.

:Comp:

[Duane]

Ethan,
If I charged $200.00 for a wheel, that wouldn't pay for the materials and time it would take to make one. Not to mention paying between $2500-$3500 for a mold that will most likely need recored after 75-100 pieces.
You guys floor me.
Duane

[Jerseysky66]

Please take it easy:blast: . We will get no were like this:spank: . Lets just see how it goes. If I had a bunch of money I would dish out the $2,500-3,000 myself. I don't know that much about the process or cost of making wheels. Have you ever done this before Duane? What type of machine do you use to put the plastic around the wheel? Is it an injection molding machine? Maybe we can find someone on this site to help with the mold making? Let us know what you think Duane.

Jerseysky66(Bob)

[ethan]

Duane said:Ethan,
If I charged $200.00 for a wheel, that wouldn't pay for the materials and time it would take to make one. Not to mention paying between $2500-$3500 for a mold that will most likely need recored after 75-100 pieces.
You guys floor me.
Duane

Understood. Id rather spend my $400 trying to get my damn Buick running! Sorry dude:TU:

[Jerseysky66]

:spank:

[Jerseysky66]

I don't know about the rest of you but I have been trying to get my car done since 1996? I'm down to only a few parts left for a show quality car. Please don't talk about prices. Lets just vote and maybe we can ask some questions to Duane and maybe we will get lucky and find someone to make a mold for less. I may even have a couple of connections. My dad was in the plastic business for more than 30 years. The only thing is it is in the blow molding end of the business. How about anyone else?

Jerseysky66

[dave64]

Maybe I'm missing something here but........ The poll just asked the condition of your original wheel, so I responded.

I did not see the question asked whether or not I wanted a repro wheel or not.:Do No:

If anyone is thinking about putting their hard earned money into a project making these wheels then I think the wording of the poll should be considerably different.

Yes my wheel is badly cracked but I will probably be replacing it with an aftermarket style, probably something along the lines of a Grant #967.

[msc66]

Duane said:Ethan,

You guys floor me.
Duane

Why? I don't think anyone was suggesting that the price was too much for the work and investment involved. Some of us just don't have that kind of disposable income (believe me, I wish I did). Us mid sixties buick owners are at a disadvantage when it comes to parts so I really hope you guys can make this happen. I'm just sorry that I'll have to live with the wheel that I have:ball:

[ethan]

Exactly... Sorry I wasn't more clear. I thought you guys were just getting an idea of who would actually buy one if they were made. I'd love to be able to afford a repo wheel. I actually think $400 is pretty cheap. Just can't afford it!! Maybe next year... we'll see!:Comp:

[YellowLark]

When I first took my '66 Skylark to a Buick show about six years ago, another owner asked me if I had tried to find an NOS steering wheel. I said that mine was OK. He laughed and said that mine must be cracked because he had spent years looking and had never seen a '66 wheel that wasn't cracked. I replied that I had my car since new and that it was not cracked.

He went to my car and showed me cracks that I had never before noticed. He was right.

The lesson here is that the need is there but no one has found it worthwhile to offer reproductions. If there was not sufficient demand years ago when more of these cars existed, there is little hope of doing it now.

[BuickGS65]

I just want to say that I don't think 50 units is an unreasonable number...

Besides us members, ebay would be a great place to sell the rest.

Let me know if there is anything I can do. I would love to see this happen.

[Jerseysky66]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=10076&item=2443117230

[YellowLark]

NOS eh?

It will be more effort to repair the chisel damage to that wheel than to fix the small cracks in my 37-year old wheel.

And, it's blue!

[Jerseysky66]

WOW:jd: Look How High This Wheel Is:confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=2443117230

Jerseysky66

[YellowLark]

I recognize the high bidder. He has a perfect '66, and multiple GSX's.

It's his money.

[BuickGS65]

That is the person from the BuickClub website trying to repro these wheels... See the link I posted above...

Bob-
I would contact him and let him know about the interest for this steering wheel repro... Who knows, perhaps he is buying it to make a mold... Just a thought

[dualqwad]

Here's one that is a lot cheaper, but probably not nearly as nice looking.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2444721689

[mainebuick]

If you look close at that picture, you can see how it has lifted from around the hub, just like mine! lol. I would love to see these wheels repro'd.:Brow: I was told that it would be at least several hundred dollars to repair one of these, and who knows how long it would last?

[neil_f_real]

Put me down for one original black steering wheel.

[NickDFX]

I paid one arm and half a leg for a beautiful grant wheel. It's a banjo type mahogany with a very nice finish. I can't wait till the rest of the car is done so I can install it. I have the original aswell but, it has some cracks and I really wanted to set off the new interior with a beautiful finishing touch. I had first bought the black grip three spoke ralley wheel but, with red interior, it looked pretty cheap, so I took it back and plunked down my arm and half leg to pay for it....
btw...I didn't tell my wife how much it cost.:grin:

[dr]

Do you have a picture of a 64-66 wheel? I do not know what they look like. Would it "work/fit" a 70 Skylark?

[Nicholas Sloop]

dr said:Do you have a picture of a 64-66 wheel? I do not know what they look like. Would it "work/fit" a 70 Skylark?

Nope
The diameter of the steering column is smaller in 64-66 than 70.
70 wheels aren't hard to come by. I have a near perfect dark brown 70 deluxe wheel if you are interested

[BuickGS65]

Any update on this story?

[Jerseysky66]

I think the problem is the cost. How many people are going to pay $400 for a steering wheel? It is alot of money. I don't know anything about the process and cost for reproducing steering wheels. I thought that the last NOS Steering Wheel that was won on eBay was going to be used for a mold. I don't know the winner of that auction and I am not sure if he is a member to this site.
Jerseysky66

[nailheadina67]

I realize the wheel you are discussing is different than the 2 spoke wheel used on the full size cars, but I will tell you this........I would gladly pay $400 for a complete new one with the cap and horn bar. In fact, all I need is a good cap (mine is cracked) and would pay $100 for a repro one if someone would make it. Even just the plastic insert.

I think if you advertise what you are selling and market it well you could not go wrong. You could even sell them one at a time on ebay to get the word out, I have seen other things such as reprinted manuals sold that way. Once the word gets out, they will sell. There is a demand for these steering wheels.:bglasses:

[Jerseysky66]

Well so far 44 people have voted, if you could get 40 people to buy a wheel at $400 that would be a total of $16,000. Personally I think $400 is too much myself. I don't think I would pay more than $200 myself. If someone made 100 wheels and charged $200 each that would total $20,000. I don't know what it cost to make a wheel. Is the GS/Skylark/Special steering wheel the same as the other model Buicks from the same time? If so please vote. Please vote on this poll if you have not voted already. I know there is more than 44 of these cars left.
Jerseysky66

[larker]

I don't know what the poll is or where to vote but put me down!

[Jerseysky66]

larker,

Please vote at the top of the page. The poll starter out as just a poll. Then someone had a great idea about reproduction. Then they just decided that they did not care about it. I guess it is just the American way (MONEY talks BS Walks). If I had it my way I would make them anyway, but I don't know where to start:bglasses: .

Jerseysky66

[larker]

I'm guessing this movement lost it's steam? If the wheels aren't going to be reproduced anyone know of a good place to get mine restored?

[buicfrank]

Gentlemen of the 64-66 vintage. Please send me info on these rare pieces and I will personally put my crisis team to work. Can anyone send me a damages or cracked unusable (not bent) one? Does anyone know what kind of material these are made from? Thanks Buicfrank

[buicfrank]

Also will there be metal or chrome pieces to be made with these wheels? Frank

[Brian]

I have a stack of about 6 of them in the attic in pretty sad shape. The only metal/chrome piece on them is the horn bar across the center, and they just attach to the wheel with 4 screws from the back. The '64-'65 had the same horn button, and the '66 had a style of its own. The big need is for the wheel--I have never come across a broken horn bar--at worst they just need re-chroming.
There is of course the metal core to the wheel, but with all the bad wheels out there, they should be easy to come by.
Feel free to contact me by E-mail or phone and I will help how ever I can--this is definitely at the top of the list of parts needed for these cars. I have 3 cars with this wheel and have managed to find NOS ones for two of them. I still need one for the 3rd car I am restoring now. Second on the list of parts needed for these cars is lower rear quarter panel patch panels--they all need that too.

stonesautomotive@juno.com
252-446-8259

[Nicholas Sloop]

Does anyone know what kind of material these are made from? Thanks Buicfrank

Pretty sure they are Bakelite

[Jerseysky66]

buicfrank,
Thank you for showing interest in the steering wheel. Mine is in very bad shape. I thought it was going to bust in pieces. I have to tell you I have been trying for 9 years to finish my car (66 SKYLARK), but nice chrome trim parts for these cars are impossible to find. Would you have an interest in helping us with them after the steering wheel. I'm sure we could come up with a ton of used trim pieces.
Thank you,
Jerseysky66
Bob

[Corellian Corve]

I'd probably be in for a black one around $300.

Thing is, even a nice grant wheel with an adapter is around $200. So an extra $100 or so seems pretty fair to me, FWIW.

[buicfrank]

I've have given my mfg a wheel to give me a price on reproducing. I should have a price in a couple of weeks. Thanks Frank

[THEGSX]

Bob-

Try searching in the member list for 64 - 66 owners... Also check out this thread:

http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=183593&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1


I would love to see this get started...

I cant believe you found that original post I did about steering wheels... we should get this off the ground... I'm game to help out.....

Jimmy

[buicfrank]

Okay gentlemen here is the latest. I can sell a repro wheel for $245.00 plus shipping. How much interest? Frank

[Bald Menace]

I would take a black one...possibly 2

[THEGSX]

Okay gentlemen here is the latest. I can sell a repro wheel for $245.00 plus shipping. How much interest? Frank
I'm in for at least 2 or 3

Jimmy

[wkillgs]

Frank,
I'm in for one at this time.....more if there's a price drop, or I get a better job!
Thanks! :TU:

[DugsSin]

Tally a black one for me Frank and thanks :TU:

[Brian]

I will take one right away. My '65 GS will need one when it goes back together. Will they be available in color, or just a neutral color that has to be painted? Either way I will take one--I had to paint one of the NOS ones I found for one of my cars anyway, so that is no big deal, just adds about another $75-$100 to the cost by time you get a good Urethane paint mixed in the right color and buy the hardner/thinner.

[Jerseysky66]

Put me in for one to start. I might need a second.
Thanks,
Jerseysky66
Bob

[Skwee-G]

I do need a steering wheel.

Burgundy

[10inchbuick]

I will take a black one.Mine is junk

[GS Spoken Here]

Frank, I will take one. As Brian stated above will there be colors or neutral and need painted? Either way put me down for one. Thanks Bill Sangster.

[neil_f_real]

Put me down for a black one.

Thanks,

Neil

[Dan K]

I need one blue and two black wheels. 3 total. I'll commit to one. If it's good, I'll buy the other two. Dan

[buicfrank]

Gentlemen IF I committed to doing this There would be only one color for now. BLACK. Frank

[MikeM]

come on Frank, you sound like Henry Ford. Surely the world has changed a little bit in 100 years.

Incidentally, I'm just teasing you. I don't have a need for one of them. But going back to one of the original questions, I might be interested in a 68 wood grain wheel. Which is about as likely as rebuilding the pyramids.

[Mark Ascher]

Frank,

I would take one.

Mark

[buicfrank]

Hey Mike after I sell 100,000 black ones I'll change to another color. Frank

[gsman66]

Frank,
Put me down for one.

Steve

[sbrmd]

Would like one for the '65 Sportwagon if this comes to pass. If priced reasonably.

[Corellian Corve]

I'm in for one, for sure. Do you need the original for a core?

[BuickGS65]

Okay gentlemen here is the latest. I can sell a repro wheel for $245.00 plus shipping. How much interest? Frank


I would be interested.

[65gs76limited]

i would be interested in a black wheel for my 65 skylark.

[ss4825]

I'll take 1 for sure and maybe another later.

[buicfrank]

Gentlemen thanks for the replies. I haven't committed to this yet because the 69 grilles are going into production in a few weeks. I should know something by Norwalk Raceday or the gs nationals. Thanks Frank

[GSJohn]

Frank,
I'd be interested in one as well as one for my brother and his 64 Sport coupe.
Count 'em 2 !!!!
John

[Topless64-455]

I currently have a 67 chevelle steering wheel with the center cap reversed:mad:

[Jerseysky66]

Does anyone else want to take part in the poll?
Thanks,
Jerseysky66

[Dan K]

I spoke to Frank at the Nats, and offered use of my NOS wheel. He is still not sure if he'll take on the project. Cross your fingers......Dan

[nailheadina67]

I spoke to Frank at the Nats, and offered use of my NOS wheel. He is still not sure if he'll take on the project. Cross your fingers......Dan

I'd like to talk to him about doing the '64-'66 wood Riv wheels.......I wonder how much it would cost to get started? I'm certain they would sell. :Brow:

[Jerseysky66]

We have almost 100 people that have polled. Looks like there is only a few people out there that have a good steering wheel. Please vote in this poll and respond to the thread if you have interest and have not already posted your interest.


Joe, I would say you might want to start a thread/poll for the '64-'66 wood Riv. wheels. See how much interest people have in it.


I would think that if someone reproduced this wheel they would be able to sell a bunch of them here and be able to sell on eBay. Plus maybe sell some to these catalog companies like. Year one, Original Parts Group and others. If I had the knowledge I would take on this project.

You might be able to sell some of the wheels to people with the bigger size Buicks. I am not sure if they will fit, but if they do it will be closer than anything else they can get. Who is going to repro stuff for the bigger Buicks.


Please vote in the poll.
Thank you,
Bob

[THEGSX]

Someone has to start reproing the wheels...this is rediculous...just about every one I have seen is cracked...and every A body buick 64 65 66 used this wheel..the thing is ...you have to have them available in colors...but I'm sure they would only start out in black...which I could use 3...I say go for it...

[Jerseysky66]

Here is a restored wheel that sold on eBay $408.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4553315074&category=34200


How long will a restored wheel hold up :Do No:


Bob

[69Wildcat430]

Mine has some mega cracks.
Does anyone have a good condition 1966 Riv GS steering wheel for sale??

A black three spoke one not wood!!

Thanks,
Jake
:TU:

[BuickGS65]

Here is a restored wheel that sold on eBay $408.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4553315074&category=34200


How long will a restored wheel hold up :Do No:


Bob


I think it's certainlty safe to say that there is a market for these steering wheels...I am reminded of the 68-72 grille repro projects........

What do you think Frank?

[buicfrank]

Dan I'm still thinking........ Frank

[buicfrank]

Email me privately if you would be committed to a steering wheel.

fjmcintyre@adelphia.net

Frank

[Jerseysky66]

I hope you guys are sending an e-mail to Frank. This may be the one and only time this might happen.

[alec296]

if same as special im in. how will color be handled?
thanks

[carl stevenson]

If anyone would like a cracked black one for core or whatever, just PM me or email me. I would send it to you for whatever the mail costs are.

Click the pics for a full size shot.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1143/dscf00124ea.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00124ea.jpg)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6362/dscf00130gp.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00130gp.jpg)

stevensoncarl@hotmail.com

Carl

[DugsSin]

Frank email has been sent, I'm in for 1. :TU:

[rdirks]

Email sent.

[Dan K]

I'll commit to three, if they come in black and blue....

If they come only in black, I'll commit to three black ones :Brow: Dan

[BuickGS65]

Frank -

email sent


:TU:

[ss4825]

E-mail sent.

[carbineone]

I do not even have my original so would definitley be interested in a repro,would a core exchange be needed?

[carl stevenson]

Bruce

I will hang onto the core I have in case you need it.

Carl

[buicfrank]

Gentlemen thanks for the replies. The project has begun. I am going with new cores but keep yours in case I might need them. The color will be BLACK for the first ones and we will see the demand for the colors later. I will keep you up to date. Frank

[sbrmd]

Interested in a red one!

[65gs76limited]

Frank, i sold my car so i will not be needing one. Thanks Tom

[DugsSin]

Just thought this should be brought back up to the top. :TU:

[mainebuick]

Have there been any price quotes yet? I just read that a guy spent 850. getting his redone. That may be fine for the mint restoration crowd, but it puts it out of my budget. No offense to anyone.

[Jerseysky66]

mainebuick, Please contact buicfrank fjmcintyre@adelphia.net. He will give you a better idea on the cost. He did give me an estimate and it was no where near $850. That is too much to spend on a steering wheel. I am not sure on how close he is on finishing.


Bob
jerseysky66

[larkone]

This Vega steering wheel has got to go! I'll take one Frank

[DugsSin]

Okay gentlemen here is the latest. I can sell a repro wheel for $245.00 plus shipping. How much interest? Frank

Just bringing this to the top for those who are wondering about the possible price. :TU:

[buicfrank]

Prices will be below $200.00 Frank

[Topless64-455]

Frank, Get R' Done the car will need it soon. :TU: Your repo coolant tank is on my Birthday list for the 70!

[billbear]

I e-mailed ya Bring two to Canfield ,Oh this weekend lol hope you can come thru for us
Tom

[brucer]

Prices will be below $200.00 Frank

Count me in!!

Thanks,
Bruce

[66gs1]

instead of wheels has anyone thought of body parts like 66 gs hoods or even just quarter panels maybe you east coast guys have alot of this stuff floatin' around but out west,these items are hard to find so for all us 64-66 guys (esp.66's)lets think bigger.oh yea $225-250 would be my max on a non-wood repro wheel.

[Jerseysky66]

I think the cost of the mold for the quarter panels is too much. I would like to see them made. I also would like to see some of the tail light bezels made. I have been search for parts since 1996 and have only seen a couple of NOS tail light bezels.

[msc66]

Prices will be below $200.00 Frank

If that's the case then I kinda have to get one!

[Mister T]

Prices will be below $200.00 Frank
I still need one when they're done. :TU:

Say Ed, maybe I can get mine shipped to you so I won't get boned on shipping charges and customs fees. I could pick it up anytime afterwards, plus I owe you dinner.

[Topless64-455]

Tom, that works for me! Any news on the 64 door and fender moldings?

[Mister T]

Tom, that works for me! Any news on the 64 door and fender moldings?
I have them by my back door ready to bring down to you. :TU:

Are you home tomorrow?? I'm heading out probably tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday. I believe I still have your home phone number, but not your cell.

How's your car coming along??

I found another 64 Skylark convert for sale here, but don't think I'm going to follow up on it, trying to get some cash together for a new house.

[buicfrank]

picture coming.. frank

[GStage1]

Here are da pics!

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Last pic!

[Topless64-455]

Which one is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mister T]

Which one is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No way Ed!!!!!!!!! Me first. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ah crap, I think I'm about 127th in line here. :ball: :ball:

[msc66]

How do you know where in line you are? I e-mailed Frank but never got a reply.

P.S. Ed, you stole my line!

[buicfrank]

Mike, I will let everyone know when the line forms. These pictures are only of the first ones. Alot of refinishing has to be done yet. These postings were to let everyone know that the project is moving forward. Thanks Frank

[Mister T]

No way Ed!!!!!!!!! Me first. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ah crap, I think I'm about 127th in line here. :ball: :ball:


How do you know where in line you are?


Actually it was more of a comment on where I usually end up at any place where there is a line. I'm sure the production run will more than cover those who've previously reponded in this thread. :TU:

When in any store,I always seem to choose the slowest moving line, which will have at least two customers who empty purses/wallets/pants pockets looking for the exact "to the penny" change. :laugh: :Dou: :rant:

I too await, with baited breath, the final results from Frank. :beer :beer

[mainebuick]

Those dont look like '66 wheels......there are no cracks!!!

[Dan K]

Frank, those pics made my day! Thanks for posting them, George. Dan

[rdirks]

Please count me in on one of these when they are available.
Whats the ETA???

-Rich

[BuickGS65]

When will these be ready?

[t-10 gs]

I would like one count me in.

[buicfrank]

I have the wheel finished BUT a cosmetic finish texture is being dealt with.Let's say 92% complete. Frank

[sbrmd]

Frank, will these be yet available in colors other than black (I need a red one)?

And, how much will they be?

Thanks in advance,
Steve.

[buicfrank]

They will be able to be repainted. BLACK is what I will have. Frank

[Geets]

Any update on the steering wheels? Put me down for one also.

Thanks,
Steve

[VicDamone]

tic-toc-tic-toc-tic-toc :laugh:

[buicfrank]

Gentlemen my lastest prototype was delivered to my shop yesterday. But I'm on vacation. I will review it when I return. Frank

[Jerseysky66]

Gentlemen my lastest prototype was delivered to my shop yesterday. But I'm on vacation. I will review it when I return. Frank



Way Too Go FRANK :beer



jerseysky66

[rannca]

Frank, I'm fairly new to the board, but count me in, this post has been like traveling the yellow brick road, and trying to find a decent wheel seems to be the same kind of journey.

Just let me know when they are ready and shipping to 80919!!:TU:

[George Bednar]

I need at least 1 and maybe 2 black steering wheels for the 65 GS . The most important thing would be that it looks like new and original . I would think based on what I've read that a price of $349 to $389 would be most reasonable based on what I've heard a quality rebuild costs and the time it takes them .

George

[Gulfgears]

66 skylark excellant condition probably could be used for making a mold for a repo.

[BuickGS65]

Frank -

We'd love an update... THANKS

[buicfrank]

Nothing new. Still cosmetic issues. Frank

[Jerseysky66]

Frank, It was nice to meet you at Carlisle. The prototype wheels look like they are getting very close.

I know you are going to make sure they are right before you give the OK for the production run. I figured I would mention that to everyone, because that is part of production process and you can not put a time table on it if you want it right.


Hope to hear an update as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Bob

[rdirks]

Any progress??

[buicfrank]

I have had requests for different color wheels. What is your opinions that I just make a wheel that CAN be painted to suit your car? Frank

[Topless64-455]

Frank, I am ready for a black one when ever they are ready. How close is the black steering wheel? Thanks Ed

[BuickGS65]

I think a "correct color" black wheel would be super... and then people can paint to match their other interior colors (red, saddle, etc...)... My .02

[Jerseysky66]

How many different colors were available back in the day for these wheels? If you know please post the colors.

[BuickGS65]

I'm not sure of the "exact" color names, but the steering wheels always matched the interior (except white?)... So the 64-66 steering wheels came in:

Black
Blue
Red
Tan/Saddle
Green [Gran Sports did not come in green interiors (?)]

~~~~

Frank -- any word on when the black steering wheels will be completed?

Thanks

[buicfrank]

Nothing yet. Frank

[Brian]

Actually, there are more variations on the color:

Black
Dark red
Medium Blue
Light Blue
Tan
Dark Brown
Light Green
Charcoal Gray (came in cars with white interior)

I think there may also have been a dark green, but I haven't seen one before--all the others I have seen before (I have at least one of each in my parts room except for the charcoal gray, and light green).

[gsman66]

Just a black one is all I need. Would think that black is at least 75% of what is needed by those interested.

Steve

[Jerseysky66]

Let's here from the people that need a wheel a different color other than the black wheel. Let me know what color you would need? Maybe if enough people reply maybe some other colors can be made:beers2: :beers2:

[photobugz]

Any news on the repos yet? I'd be most interested in the saddle color that was available in 1965.

I've finally found a way to restore some originals without the cracks coming back. They look really good, but they obviously have to be painted instead of having the original plastic finish. I'll might try putting one on ebay soon... we'll see :beers2:

[rdirks]

Are we close?? I still need 2 black ones.

-Rich

[Topless64-455]

I need a black one also. Thanks Ed

[BuickGS65]

Any progress?

BUMP

:TU:

[diver]

One BLACK one for my 66 GS, please.
Diver

[buicfrank]

I have given my okay to have them produced. They will be in a black finish. THEY ARE TO BE PAINTED BY YOU TO MATCH YOUR INTERIOR. That way no one complains about my trying to match the 40 year old interiors. MORE LATER. Frank

[Topless64-455]

I cant wait! Any idea how long? I was just about to buy a ralley wheel but I want this wheel. Thanks Frank.

[Geets]

Great news!! Put me down for one fo rmy 65' Skylark. Thanks for all of your work on this Frank.

Steve

[tom65special]

I have given my okay to have them produced. They will be in a black finish. THEY ARE TO BE PAINTED BY YOU TO MATCH YOUR INTERIOR. That way no one complains about my trying to match the 40 year old interiors. MORE LATER. Frank

Frank,
Do you have the price set yet? Depending on price, I would definately be interested.. Thanks for all your hard work on this project, I see that it's been a long time coming.
Thanks again,
Tom

[Jerseysky66]

I have given my okay to have them produced. They will be in a black finish. THEY ARE TO BE PAINTED BY YOU TO MATCH YOUR INTERIOR. That way no one complains about my trying to match the 40 year old interiors. MORE LATER. Frank


Frank,
I was wondering if you are going to be at the Carlisle swap meet? If so do you have the sample wheel you have approved for production. I would possibly like to see the wheel. I won't have a spot, but could meet you somewhere.

Thanks again for all your had work,
jerseysky66

[DugsSin]

I have given my okay to have them produced.

Oh yea that is good news, my wheel is in very sad shape. Time to do the happy dance:laugh:

[buicfrank]

As of this minute I will NOT be at the Carlisle show. Frank

[BuickGS65]

Frank -

Ballpark estimate of the price?

THANKS

[buicfrank]

Dan, Let's wait and get everybody pissed at me later. Frank

[JimJames]

Just saw this thread today. Would hope this come to fruition. Will have to keep watching here to see what takes place. Black is what I'll need.
Here's hoping! :pray: Jim :cool:

[chasanderson]

Sure A Lot of interest in these!!!! How are you deciding on a run number?

[BuickGS65]

Frank -

I'm dying to put a new wheel on my '65... When is the estimated availability date? [I'm getting tempted to put a rally wheel on my '65 :-)]
:TU:
Cheers,
Dan

[jamhdit]

I Need A Black One , What Is The Price And How Soon To Produce?

[la 65 gs]

I too would be in line for a couple of these. When I fiised my GS over 16 years ago, I was lucky enough to come across a mint wheel that I painted and clear coated in Urethane. Still have a couple of more '65's to finish though.
That said,here's to waiting.

Loren

[Mark Ascher]

Loren,

Welcome to the forum!!!

Mark

[buicfrank]

I now have pictures. Trying to post.

[buicfrank]

http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/buicfrank/?action=view&current=PDR_0933.jpg

Try these. Frank

[BuickGS65]

WOW... looks good... when will they be ready?

[buicfrank]

Now understand these will HAVE to be painted to match your interior. Waiting on the phone call to get them. Will post as soon as I get them. Frank

[BuickGS65]

Now understand these will HAVE to be painted to match your interior.

Unless your interior is black? or do the black interior wheels also need paint?

[buicfrank]

All need painted. Frank

[Topless64-455]

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc148/topless64-455/DSC01123.jpg

Hopefully just in time for Christmas! Merry Christmas to me, Merry Christmas to me!!!!!!!!!!:beer :gp:

[ss4825]

Ed, That is an awsome looking dash.:TU:

[BuickGS65]

All need painted.
Any special directions to painting them? (type of paint, clear coat, etc.)


Here are the '65 interior paint codes:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l291/myspacejunkemail/interior-colors.jpg

[Brian]

I have painted two in the past--one used standard wheel and one deluxe NOS wheel. I used a single stage Urethane paint with a hardner/activator. You will need to add some flattner to some of the colors to keep them from being to shiny--it makes it look more like plastic instead of being painted.
Don't use enamel, laquer or any clear coat paints. The enamel and laquer will not hold up, and the clear coat paints won't look right--it will look painted, whereas a single stage urethane paint with the right amount of flattner looks like a plastic wheel that isn't painted.

[BuickGS65]

Thanks for the info Brian... What color will you be painting yours? (perhaps you could paint mine too? :Do No: )

[Brian]

If I get one, I will be for a spare. Since this thread started, I finished restoring my GS and had D&D automobilia in PA hand-make me one for my car. It cost way too much, but man does it look nice!

[photobugz]

Do we have a price and eta on these yet? I need a steering wheel by yesterday.

:beer

[buicfrank]

I am projecting a delivery date of the first week in February. Being on vacation now I won't be home until end of January. Price will be $165.00 plus shipping, which I will determine when I package one. This is a projected time frame but not written in stone. Thanks for your patience. Frank

[la 65 gs]

That is great to hear. The price makes it a reality I think for a lot of us.
THANKS for keeping on this project!:beer
Loren

[Topless64-455]

Thanks Frank! You rule! Tell me when to send my Christmas money. Merry Christmas to me!!!!!!!!!!!

[wkillgs]

YES!!!:TU:
I'm still in for a couple. Thanks Frank!!

[DugsSin]

I'm still in too:TU: well done Frank and thank you for doing it correctly! Enjoy your vacation.:beers2:

[Jerseysky66]

Frank,
Thanks again for getting involved in this Project :beer :beer :beer

I hope you have a good time on your vacation.

Bob

[tom65special]

Frank,
Thanks for taking the time for this huge project. You ROCK man.

Tom

[JimJames]

I'm still in too:TU: well done Frank and thank you for doing it correctly! Enjoy your vacation.:beers2:

Same here! Looking forward to getting mine. Kudos for sure! Enjoy your leisure time away from work and stress. Jim:beer

[BuickGS65]

I'm in for at least 2

[chasanderson]

Hope I'm still on the list

[Jerseysky66]

Hope I'm still on the list

Not sure if there is a real list. I believe Frank is still on vacation. I think he will be back next month.

[buicfrank]

I am back. Everything is on schedule. Frank

[Ol' Yeller]

Frank,

I have been following this thread with great interest. We are all very grateful to you for undertaking this project for us mid 60's guys. Too often we have to settle for something less than what we desire to complete our cars. The steering wheel was a major one and one that we handle everytime we get in our cars. Thank you for doing this. Please put me down for one and let me know when you are ready to start filling orders. A PM would be fine.

Greg

[Topless64-455]

Please tell me we are close! I would love to have one of these wheels soon.

[buicfrank]

An announcement will be made Monday or Tuesday. Frank

[msc66]

WEEEeeeeeeee!!!!!!

[BuickGS65]

Hooray!

[Topless64-455]

Money waiting to send!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:TU:

[Mister T]

Money waiting to send!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:TU:

Ditto!!!:beer :beer

Edit: I just looked back at what I voted, and it was for the 64 vert I sold almost 2 years ago.:eek2:

But, I need one for my GS.

[buicfrank]

Okay I might as well post this now. (Saturday night) I am supposed to pick up a partial order of wheels on Monday. BUT I'm going away on Wednesday for three weeks. Providing I can get them (snow), I will mail the ones that are owed and will be accepting monies thru paypal till noon on Tuesday. I can't mail anymore out after 5:30 PM Tuesday. I will be able to get more out as of April 4th when I return. Any questions email me privately at fjmcintyre@comcast.net Price will be $165 plus $21 shipping. Thanks for your patience. Frank

[BuickGS65]

Is the above email also your PayPal email? Combined shipping for multiple wheels? Thanks

Dan

[buicfrank]

Yes same for paypal. $165 wheel. $21 shipping. Add $9 for shipping two wheels. Frank

[DugsSin]

Thank You Frank :TU: I know my Mcintyre wheel will be superb. :TU:

Payment sent. Time to make good on your orders guys:Smarty:

[Topless64-455]

You have money! I am so happy I could __it. (spit yeah thats it):TU:

Frank will you need cores?

[rdirks]

Payment Sent!:beer

Thanks Frank!

-Rich

[buicfrank]

No cores Ed. They are new cores. Frank

[BuickGS65]

Frank -
Payment sent. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! :beers2:

[Mister T]

Frank, you have email.:TU:

[wkillgs]

Payment sent via PayPal for two wheels!
I will most likely buy more later.
Thanks for doing this Frank!:TU:

[Mister T]

You have money! I am so happy I could __it. (spit yeah thats it):TU:



Ed, sent you a PM.:TU: And I'm also so happy I could............yea, jump up and down. (no, you really don't want to see that.:laugh: )

[buicfrank]

Sorry to say this but PA residents must pay 6% sales tax. Frank

[msc66]

Sorry to say this but PA residents must pay 6% sales tax. Frank

Good thing I don't live in PA anymore. Paypal sent.

[Jerseysky66]

Keep the orders coming :TU: :TU:



I will put my order in for one when you get back. I am not ready for mine yet. My car is in the project stage still. So if anyone needs one know please place your order now.

Is it possible to maybe meet you at Carlisle in April? I don't think I will have a space this year. Maybe someone else has a spot. I will have a spot at Englishtown the week after :Smarty:

Thanks again Frank :beers2: :beers2: :beers2:

[buicfrank]

I will not be at Carlisle. Slight chance Norwalk. Yes to GS Nationals. Frank

[getnbye]

Check is in the email... :dollar:

Thanks again for taking on this project and making it happen!

[BuickGS65]

Just in time... $575 NOS wheel on ebay. With a bid!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=250223824588&_trksid=p3907.m32

Thanks again Frank... 5 years since the start of this thread, and repro wheels are now a reality. ttt for Frank

[Topless64-455]

Somebody just found out Frank repoed them and is going to get it $ before the general public finds out.
Thanks Frank:TU:

[JimJames]

As stated in a earlier post in this thread, I would like to order one of these steering wheels for my '66 Skylark GS. Haven't read back but the past few pages posted here, but from what my eyes tell me is that these wheels are ready for purchase, BUT, the person who's selling them is gone until April or so, and no orders will be filled until their return. I'm still trying to figure out who has them from the posts here, jerseysky66 or buicfrank?:confused: Shed some light please? Thanks. Jim

[wkillgs]

BuickFrank is selling them. Go back to page 11 and look at post #215. Franks contact info is there....you can email him directly, and use PayPay for payment.:TU:

[mainebuick]

Could you please notify me when you are back, and ready to ship? Thank you.

[JimJames]

BuickFrank is selling them. Go back to page 11 and look at post #215. Franks contact info is there....you can email him directly, and use PayPay for payment.:TU:

Thanks for the info. :TU: Have sent an email to Frank, :Comp: but guessing he is out of town for awhile. In waiting mode! :( :pp Jim :cool:

[buicfrank]

I'm back and wheels will be mailed tomorrow. Frank

[JimJames]

Hi Frank. Did you find my email I sent about 3 weeks ago with questions? Will be waiting for a reply. Thanks. :TU: Jim :bglasses:

[buicfrank]

No Jim. try again. Frank

[gsman66]

I'm back and wheels will be mailed tomorrow. Frank

Frank,
I mailed you a check on 3/26 so it should be there by now. Hope you enjoyed your time off.

Thanks again for taking on this project!
Steve

[George Bednar]

Frank ,

I want one for a 65 GS Skylark . This is great !!!

Where do I send the money ?

Thank you so much ,

George

[wkillgs]

Received my wheels yesterday!:grin:
They are very nice pieces, WELL worth the price!
When compared to one of my used and abused original wheels, the repo does seem to have sharper lines....it's noticable where the center bar meets the rim, and on the finger notches. It's very likely I'm just seeing 40 years of wear on the original.
I'll have to dig up another original wheel for a better comparison.

They do need some finishing... The mold parting lines received a quick flashing-removal, and need to be smoothed some more, maybe with a fine file and then some wet-sanding.
The finish is a low-gloss black, similar to a Krylon satin-black spray-can paint. My one original has a gloss finish...so a paint job is in order.

All in all, these appear to be very well made. We are very fortunate that Frank took on this project and offered them to us for a great price!
Thanks Frank!:beers2:

[BuickGS65]

When compared to one of my used and abused original wheels, the repo does seem to have sharper lines....it's noticable where the center bar meets the rim, and on the finger notches. It's very likely I'm just seeing 40 years of wear on the original.
I'll have to dig up another original wheel for a better comparison.


Here's some pics on an NOS wheel for further comparison

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=250223824588&_trksid=p3907.m32

[BuickGS65]

They do need some finishing... The mold parting lines received a quick flashing-removal, and need to be smoothed some more, maybe with a fine file and then some wet-sanding.
The finish is a low-gloss black, similar to a Krylon satin-black spray-can paint. My one original has a gloss finish...so a paint job is in order.


Everyone: Please let us know how you prepped and painted your wheel

Thanks!

[getnbye]

Recieved my steering wheel today also.

I echo all of Walts comments as they will require a little bit of finish work in order to be "car ready" but overall.. THESE ARE AWESOME PIECES! :TU:

These steering wheels are worth every cent and much needed in the 65 community!

Thank you Frank for sticking to your guns and making this project happen!

[getnbye]

Everyone: Please let us know how you prepped and painted your wheel

Thanks!

I found these and they might be a start Dan...

http://www.advanceautoparts.com/english/youcan/asp/res/res20021101vd.asp

http://www.corvettemagazine.com/content/view/62/

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/techarticles/mump_9908_classic_ford_mustang_steering_wheel_rest oration/painting.html

[wkillgs]

Almost forgot...
Thanks Bob!
....for getting this project going!....
:beers2: :beers2:

[getnbye]

Excellent catch Walt!

A big Thanks to Bob for starting this Poll and getting the ball rolling!

:gp: :beer

[Jerseysky66]

Almost forgot...
Thanks Bob!
....for getting this project going!....
:beers2: :beers2:


You guys are WELCOME.

I just wish I was a motivated as when I started this thread. I have not had my car out of the garage since the last time I was at Yardley's picnic :rant: .

I am going to push myself and get the car at least ready enough to possibly make it to the picnic this year. My business and personal life are so busy right now.

I do want to Thank - Frank again. Without him you guys would still have to deal with cracked steering wheels.

Bob

[Brian]

Paint them with a automotive grade single stage urethane paint. I have painted several originals with that and it holds up great. Don't use clear coat paints--it won't look right and the clear coat won't hold up as well.
If your repo wheel is already the right color, it can be buffed out to a shine. I had a wheel hand made for my '65 GS and the guy that makes them hand polishes the plastic to a shine.
Do the metal cores in Frank's repo wheels have the two threaded holes on the bottom for a tilt column turn signal cancel cam? Not all of the originals had those two holes in them for some reason