what is this all about !!!!

[Ryans-GSX]

I sold a 1970 GS 350 a few weeks ago and the man brought to my attention that the vin # does not show that the car I have is a GS so I whent to marco's web page and folowed the links to vin# decoding and this is what I got note that a 1970 GS 350 and 1970 Skylark are the same code my first part of the vin is 43437H and I would like to know how to prove it is a real GS the man that bought it is not backing out he just is concerned like me about clones !!! please let me know thanks


Vehicle Identification Plates



1965-1971 Models



1st Digit - Division
4 = Buick
2nd and 3rd Digits - Series
33 = Special V6 (1965-67)
33 = Deluxe L6 (1968-69)
33 = Skylark L6 (1970-71)
34 = Special V8 (1965-67)
34 = Special Deluxe V8 (1968-69)
34 = GS350 (1968-70)
34 = GS (1971)
34 = Skylark V8 (1970-71)
34 = Sportwagon V8 (1970-71)
35 = Special Deluxe V6 (1965-67)
35 = Skylark V6 (1968-69)
35 = Skylark 350 (1970-71)
36 = Special Deluxe V8 (1965-67)
36 = Skylark V8 (1968-69)
41 = Sportwagon V6 (1965)
42 = Sportwagon V8 (1965)
43 = Skylark V6 (1965-67)
44 = Skylark V8 (1965-67)
44 = Skylark Custom (1968-71)
44 = Sportwagon V8 (1967-69)
46 = Skylark Gran Sport (1964-66)
46 = GS400 (1967-69)
46 = GS455 (1970)
48 = Sportwagon Custom V8 (1967-69)
4th and 5th Digits - Body Code
07 = 2 Door Post Coupe
17 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
27 = 2 Door Post Coupe
35 = 4 Door Station Wagon
36 = 4 Door Station Wagon
37 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
39 = 4 Door Hardtop Sedan
55 = 4 Door Sportwagon
56 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
65 = 4 Door Sportwagon
66 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
67 = 2 Door Convertible
69 = 4 Door Sedan
6th Digit - Model Year
5 = 1965
6 = 1966
7 = 1967
8 = 1968
9 = 1969
0 = 1970
1 = 1971
7th Digit - Assembly Plant Code
B = Baltimore, MD
C = South Gate, CA
D = Atlanta, GA
G = Framingham, MA
H = Flint, MI
I = Oshawa, Ontario (Canada)
K = Kansas City, MO
V = Bloomfield, IL
X = Kansas City, KS
Y = Wilmington, DE
Z = Fremont, CA
Last 6 Digits - Production Number

[Smartin]

4 = Buick

34 = GS350 (1968-70)

[Ryans-GSX]

look at the skylark 1970 it is 34 also !!!

[Smartin]

It's wrong.

33 = 70-71 Skylark

34 = 65-67 Special V8 including 67 GS340, 68-70 GS350, 68-69 Special Deluxe wagon, 70-71 Sportwagon, 71 GS

[Ryans-GSX]

OK not to be a smarty pants but I need prof where did you get info

[Ryans-GSX]

note 33 is the skylark L6 and 34 is skylark V8 "this is a mess"

[Smartin]

yes a big mess:laugh:

I looked in the year one catalog. I'm pretty sure the GS350 in 1970 has its own VIN designation - and the 71 GS does not. You can only distinguish a GS from a Skylark....

I'll try to dig up a trhead with more info!

[Smartin]

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30990&highlight=GS350+VIN

[Smartin]

And this thread appears to have the correct listing of VIN ID numbers:

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30280&highlight=GS350+VIN

[Bad Boattail]

4 34 37 ? H

4 = Buick

34 = GS

37 = 2 drs HT coupe

? Where's the 0 for 1970 modelyear?????

H = Flint factory



Regular Skylark = 33

GS 455 = 46

look at the Body Number plate under the bonnet for the modelnumber for extra proof, GS is ST 70 43437


Want a scan from 2 different books for proof?

[Ryans-GSX]

opps the number is 434370H forgot the o my bad thanks guys I am not trying to be a pain its just if you look at the line 34 = GS350 (1968-70) then go down two lines it says 34 = Skylark V8 (1970-71) this is what my concern is 1970 is 34 for both according to the web page linked by marcos page I looked that the cowl tag and it does indeed say ST 70 43437 does this prove it is a GS I dont know again I want to stress I am not tring to be a pain I just see this and I am concerned do you all see what I am talking about or is it just me ?????????

[Bad Boattail]

Ryan,

When typing a long list like that, you can get some things wrong.
We all depend on info given to us by books, internet or maybe the Sloan museum.
I found the info I gave you in 3 different books from different publishers, what are the ods they all typed it wrong?

As I asked you before: Do you want scans from two of the books to show to the person that bought the car?

Or make a deal with him:
Ask the Sloan museum to decode the VIN, if it's a true GS the buyer pays for the document, if it's not a true GS all costs are for you.

[Smartin]

The 70 GS350 had its own VIN designation: 434370H

Just like Erik pointed out -

I think you're in the clear...it's a real GS :bglasses: :TU:

[Smartin]

I found the page with the error in it:

http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:lxUwVBymi7gJ:user.dtcc.edu/~rod/buick/buickvin.html

[Ryans-GSX]

yes thats the page and marco PMed me and told me he emailed them about the error and said he would try to direct me to a more acurate web page thanks for helping me out and Erik yes I that would be great to get the scans email address is ryancraig@triad.rr.com thanks agian

[GS-XNR]

Ryan
Here's a link to an independant site that has the correct numbers if you need.
http://www.buicks.net/years/70.shtml

[Bad Boattail]

Ryan,

Three scans just crossed the ocean...........:laugh: