2005 BPG!!! Parking lot activities need to be addressed!

[derek244]

After cruising around the dead hotel parking lots last year, I say we all plan on taking some "NO DOZ" supplements and get ready to party! We need to represent for the Buick crowd! Salem needs to know we are there!

I know, I know, not for the faint of heart, but don't be scard. I am not talking acting super crazy, but dang, lets put a little life in the lots. I hope I will not be alone in this quest! If you need to sleep, we can prop you up in a chair and put some sunglasses on you...

Who's with me!?!?!?
:Brow: :Brow: :beer :eek2: :TU: :laugh:

[Smartin]

What lot were YOU in last year?:Brow::grin:


I'll be one of the first to admit that I'm not usually acclamated to staying up late...and am guilty of turning in early a couple of the nights myself.


I did catch one of the offenders in action though...

[derek244]

Adam, I drove through ALL of them. I was dissappointed. I stayed at the Holiday Inn, and it was dead. Cruised the lots down the way...a few people standing around...nothing more. BUT thats OK, I just want to have a little fun. I know a Massorifice burned a little rubber, BUT dang, one or two guys???? Come on... :3gears:

I just want to get a few things more going, thats all. I don't have a "show car" , and I really don't drag race too well. I am not a Buick guru, with 25 years knowledge, and I don't have a bedtime! :error:

[Duane]

Derek,
I like that "Massorifice", the name will probably stick.
Duane

[derek244]

Yep, just as I figured...

I'll see you at Salem! Lights out at 10:00pm :rolleyes:

[alan]

1971 GS455 (asleep in the garage..shhhh)

So That's how you can stay up late!!!!!! :laugh:

[71GSX455-4SPD]

After cruising around the dead hotel parking lots last year, I say we all plan on taking some "NO DOZ" supplements and get ready to party! We need to represent for the Buick crowd! Salem needs to know we are there!Who's with me!?!?!?
:Brow: :Brow: :beer :eek2: :TU: :laugh:

Derek-

You're bunking with Johnno next year!! That way you can see, taste, and smell all the rubber you'ld like! :)

[derek244]

Alan, ya got me there :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Look, I don't know who this Johnno character is, wait a minute, he's a Massorifice right? :TU: Gotta meet this dude...

All I am saying is we gotta have SOMETHING going on here guys! It seemed a little odd last year for a newbie that is.

[Mike Trom]

I think with the late night race availability at Salem the hotel lot action will be minimum. Everyone spends their time at that track until it is closed.

The fireworks and tire melting (2 nights) were cool at the Red Roof last year

Edit....(Thanks Red Mustang :TU: )

[David G]

Derek, don't ya know, most of us Buick guys are pot-bellied, middle-aged, balding grandparents that can't stay awake past 9:30 pm? :laugh: :laugh:

[derek244]

Mike, I agree with the late night racing issue. BUT, not every Buick guy in Salem is a big racer. Heck, I bet less people on this board than you think are 1/4 mile racers. Don't get me wrong, I flat out loved watching the races last year, and will again this year!

Again, I am not talking about the level of craziness and such that the Mopar Nats brings to my hometown (If you haven't seen it, ya don't know), I just think showing Salem that the Buicks are here would be nice, instead of shutting down right away. :beer

[MikeM]

The main problem was that the police were threatening to arrest us for open liquor in the lot. That's the first thing someone needs to make change. Get the cops to lighten up and leave us alone.

[Dan Healey]

Did the Hotel call? If so, we need to change Hotels. I thought that was PRIVATE property, and if you are a guest there....... :Do No: :confused:

I'll be at the Hampton (gotta use those Hilton points). :Brow: And next year, I will not have to leave mid Sat afternoon, so I can meet a few more guys. Twice I was standing next to a guy in the swap area, and I was thinking (I've seen him before), but I can't figure out where.... :confused:

Sat about 2pm, as I was prepairing to leave, he intoduced himself to the crowd, Dennis Manner. :Dou: :Dou: :Dou: I had a bunch of questions I would have loved to ask him. :grin:

[69GS400s]

I Like late night fun as much as the next guy.....but let me just say this:

That guy at the show with the only OLD car (Black...Loooong....30's ??) was a local policeman. I spoke with him for quite a while and he told me point blank that we better be careful because they WILL arrest you for drinking in public....street racing....and anything else they can get you for. He said they take no B.S. and that it was specifically discussed in briefings that the BUICK's are in town, that we were seen drinking in the parking lots.....etc. So at least the Fuzz knew we were there.... :puzzled:

.....and IT WAS NOT JOHNNO lighting off fire works and doing Burn-outs next to the WedWoof Inn.....it was a '89 Red Mustang who first came over and challeneged us to a street race....which we lawfully declined :Smarty: :rolleyes: :Dou:

[Mike Trom]

Alan,

Who said it was Johnno? I knew it was that pesky red Mustang driven by those local pyromaniacs.... :grin:

:TU:

[462CID]

After cruising around the dead hotel parking lots last year, I say we all plan on taking some "NO DOZ" supplements and get ready to party! We need to represent for the Buick crowd! Salem needs to know we are there!

I know, I know, not for the faint of heart, but don't be scard. I am not talking acting super crazy, but dang, lets put a little life in the lots. I hope I will not be alone in this quest! If you need to sleep, we can prop you up in a chair and put some sunglasses on you...

Who's with me!?!?!?
:Brow: :Brow: :beer :eek2: :TU: :laugh:

Playing bocce while drunk on a golf course at night isn't legal. Sign me up.

[lifeat26psi]

Derek, don't ya know, most of us Buick guys are pot-bellied, middle-aged, balding grandparents that can't stay awake past 9:30 pm? :laugh: :laugh:


:mad:

actually....im not fat....im in college.....my baseball cap covers a FULL head of hear....and i think i went to sleep at around 9:30 AM...... :laugh: :laugh:

[derek244]

Police??? Not wanting public drinking??? A local cop warning you be behave or else??? No kidding. :laugh: Every suburb cop will have this feeling I'm sure.

I am not saying run around the parking lot trashed and drinking beer in open containers, but come on, we did not even come remotely close to that. There is nothing illegal about an after hours cruise-in. Eventually the cops will leave everyone alone. Think of it this way: We bring a whole lotta cash to area businesses, and the businesses KNOW it. As the years go by, things will change.

If you don't want to drink, fine, don't. If you do, do it in your hotel room. I don't think anyone should drink and drive though of course. I still say we should get together at one Hotel, and let the owners know about it in advance. If they react poorly to the idea, say fine, we'll find another place that will. Money and business talks! What the heck else in going on in Salem in August???? Reynoldsburg rolls out the red carpet here every year for the Mopars, lets get Salem to do the same for us. :TU:

[462CID]

I see you don't care for Bocce

[Roberta]

One night we closed the IHOP at Midnight, after partying in the pits til we had to go eat. and I think it was Saturday night? The late day at the track does cut into the extra-curricular(parking lot) activities we enjoy at other events, though.
New turbocharged golf cart? Who is that pyrotech?
http://www.mi-buicks.com/MVC-233X.JPG

[8587GN]

Derek,yuor right about the Mopar Nats. The after show antics in the hotel parking lots,and on Brice Rd is crazy.And the city knows how much cash that show brings in. I dont think any Buick event will come close to the madhouse that is Brice Rd,thats why I`ll be taking my soon to be GSX clone to the Mopar Nats to run in the FAST class.I`ll be at Salem Thur eve though [same weekend] Like Derek said the madhouse in Columbus is something you just have to see to beleive. There were smoke clouds coming from just about every hotel parking lot,not small clouds,BIG clouds

[derek244]

Keith, no doubt! Even if you hate Mopars, ya gotta come see these guys. The burn marks are etched into pavement everywhere around here for months after they leave. You need a respirator to watch these maniacs!!!

:3gears: :beer :3gears:

[Dana/Beth Andrews]

[QUOTE=Roberta] Who is that pyrotech?
QUOTE]

Roberta, would that be Indiana's own "WildBill"? :bglasses:

Beth :grin:

[derek244]

Alright, who's in? I figure making some plans early will help us. I REALLY think we should pick one hotel lot that is cruise-in friendly. Heck, I'll even go up to Salem and scout it out, and talk to the people first hand if needed. I am very serious about this!!! :Brow:

[JR Wills]

You Need to get your AREAS straight!
1) Motels were in Boardman, which is STILL DRY in some areas.
2) Salem is Different County, Different Town/Berg, etc.
3) Lack of Publicity cut down some of the Local activity as well as weather.
The Southern Park Mall had a "Tool Show" which took over the normal Cruise Night on Saturday. (A GOOD night has 500-700 Cars) So we missed that.
Friday night was at the Track, Missed A&W, which pulls over 200 cars. Scheduling problem(?).
Of the Local areas, Canfield IS usually the tightest on nailing people for things. (That is where the Pekin's is Roberta spoke of, they used to be open 24 hours)
Boardman is USED to Large groups of Car People due to the Hot Rod Super Nationals, and similar events. During that Event, RT 224 is blocked from I-11 to SR-7 from making a left hand turn,(both directions) & people are STACKED to watch the cars from I-11 to I-680. That Event, brings in $11+ MILLION to the area, and the Buicks are NO WHERE NEAR THAT, so don't throw the $ issue out.
Because it was a 1st year Event, there were a LOT of Growing Pains, and Learning areas.
These WILL improve as time allows, and improvements are made.
A) Better Publicity to Local Law Enforcement Agencies, Vendors, Local Businesses.
B) Scheduling/Planning (Talks should have already started with "Locals" if they haven't).
This Event CAN improve & get larger, and WILL, BUT, It takes A LOT of WORK and IF POSSIBLE, Use the Constructive Criticism of others who have set up Events, and Avoid the Mistakes THEY made, to save time & build a stronger
Event.
No One can control the weather, and that worked against SOME of the Event,
and the surrounding activities.
As for "Extra & Late Night Activities", Yes, we are there for FUN :TU: BUT,
We are ALSO "Guests" of that Area, & should show the Respect requested, and deserved. :Smarty:

[mygs462]

I agree JR someone from the club should get together with the area chamber of commerce and say hey we bring a good bit of cash to your towns see if you can lighten up on some of these issues, money talks thats for sure.

[derek244]

Thanks JR, I agree with some of the stuff you are saying. The whole reason this thread went up 9 months early IS to address these concerns. You seem to know alot about the area, that's for sure! Help us out man.

Let me get a few things straight here though, OK?

1. Last year I could find no real organized gathering of Buicks on Fri. or Sat. night. I am NOT talking about the track. Again, I didn't go at night.

2. Who cares about the police? Don't do anything ILLEGAL.

3. I am new again to the Buick scene. I want to meet and talk to people face to face. There are other people on here that want to also. Parking lots and cruise-ins are good for this. Things can get busy at a car show.

4. Last year the cars and people were scattered all over the place when night fell.

5. It's really simple actually. Hotel permission+Buicks+people= Nice cruise-in

As far as money goes, do you think the hotels would like to loose ANY? I think they are in business to make money, and as much of it as they can. We might have brought only $50-60,000 bucks to the area, but that's money they did not have before.

[JR Wills]

Any Event of this "Magnatude" takes A LOT of hard work & preperation, and investment of time by the people setting it up. It actually gets to be an additional JOB, and must be "Hands On" throughout the process.
Logistics, and other problems I THINK, were some of the problems that CAN be worked out to improve the event, and basically it is a "Growing Process".
I was NOT involved in the process, so I WON'T Criticize, but only offer suggestions.
Things that should be getting set up now are:
1) Contact with Local People, IE: Law Enforcement, & Local Governments.
2) Sponsors, Vendors ETC.
3) Local Dealership (Doug Sweeney @ Buick Youngstown)
4) A&W For Cruise
5) Hotels/Motels
6)Track
By doing this NOW, it will START to get things going, & I am SURE SOME of this has been done, if it wasn't at the end of the Event.
Use the experience of OTHERS, & Local people to assist. Use experience of/from other events & people who put them on & learn from their "Trials & tribulations".
IF you had a problem, let someone know, and OFFER the suggestion & idea to correct it. Just saying "I didn't/don't like this or that" isn't going to correct the problem, & don't expect the Event Fairy to wave a wand to correct the problems.
As for # of Vehicles, Southern Park Mall will pull LARGER #s on a good Saturday night Cruise (500+) than what was at the Event, and that is just Local Cars.
As for $, A RUFF calculation, using 400 entrants @ $500 each, ends up being $200,000. The Hot Rod Super Nationals pumped $11 MILLION into the local Economy, & there were gripes about the Super Nats. From some of the Locals. Figures are JUST based on $ for Food,Lodging & the like, Not $ spent on the entry etc.
Unfortunately, I live 1300 miles away, although I grew up in the area, & try to make it back yearly for personal reasons, & that is how I know what I do.
JR

[Smartin]

Well we had the A&W cruise on Thursday night, but we had to scram at 10pm due to the owner getting nervous about cops swarming. That was a great place for a social gathering. Most of the time otherwise, we are at the track past 10pm every night!

[Stage1 Jeff]

A&W!!! we used to have on here in my town,abilene,ks.my mother worked there for 31 years before it changed hands.now works at our local russell stover candies factory.
has a huge parking lot,could hold lotsa buicks

[70 Skylark Conv]

I haven't been paying attention lately. When and where is the '05 BPG Nats being held?

[Dana/Beth Andrews]

I haven't been paying attention lately. When and where is the '05 BPG Nats being held?


August 11-14 Salem OH, same place as last year.

Dee, you may want to consider attending........... lots of single guys :laugh:


Beth :grin:

[70 Skylark Conv]

August 11-14 Salem OH, same place as last year.

Dee, you may want to consider attending........... lots of single guys :laugh:


Beth :grin:

You read my mind! This would be a great birthday present to ME! I've got plenty of time to save up and get the car ready. I think I would need some A/C that time of year though.

[Dana/Beth Andrews]

You read my mind! This would be a great birthday present to ME! I've got plenty of time to save up and get the car ready. I think I would need some A/C that time of year though.

Yes, this would be a great B-day gift for yourself.
I think the host hotel is the Red Roof Inn again (lots of single guys staying there) you can make your reservation on line
http://www.redroof.com/reservations/inn_details.asp?innNumber=253

Who needs AC when you have a conv.


Beth :grin:

[70 Skylark Conv]

Yes, this would be a great B-day gift for yourself.
I think the host hotel is the Red Roof Inn again (lots of single guys staying there) you can make your reservation on line
http://www.redroof.com/reservations/inn_details.asp?innNumber=253

Who needs AC when you have a conv.


Beth :grin:

Thanks for the info!!!

Both of my converts have top line issues. Mainly, leaking all over. Those are one of the things I put off fixing 'cause I thought I had them fixed. My little dog prefers A/C over getting windblown!

[Dana/Beth Andrews]

Thanks for the info!!!

Both of my converts have top line issues. Mainly, leaking all over. Those are one of the things I put off fixing 'cause I thought I had them fixed. My little dog prefers A/C over getting windblown!


You have until August. Better get-a-fixin'.


Beth :grin:

[70 Skylark Conv]

I sure want to meet all the "northerners"! I think it would be a blast! Thanks again!

[Carl Rychlik]

The A&W was a great place for us to hang out and park our cars. Plus,the food was great too!

It was certainly a great event and also was a good way to meet people from all over. I look forward to seeing you all once again.

[David G]

You read my mind! This would be a great birthday present to ME! I've got plenty of time to save up and get the car ready. I think I would need some A/C that time of year though.

Didn't need A/C for the trip in Aug 04... most of my drive time, about 2200 miles, was 60's to 70's, and the 4+ days at Salem were pretty much in the 70's. I'm sure that was a good bit below average though, for OH in August. :puzzled:

[stagetwo65]

Didn't need A/C for the trip in Aug 04... most of my drive time, about 2200 miles, was 60's to 70's, and the 4+ days at Salem were pretty much in the 70's. I'm sure that was a good bit below average though, for OH in August. :puzzled:

Yeah, probably 20 degrees below average! :Dou: We really dodged a bullet on that one. Here's hoping it continues this year. :beer

[Smartin]

Let's keep the rain out of it this time..:Dou:

[stagetwo65]

Smartin, did it rain very much? I don't remember it raining more than a couple of hours on just one of the days. Am I forgetting something? I thought the weather was pretty good all week. No? :Do No: I did drink a fair amount, so maybe my brain is smoked. :beer

[TomGS72@aol.com]

It rained all day thursday and half of friday. Other than that the weather was great!

Tom Jenkins

[69GS400s]

Yeah, probably 20 degrees below average! :Dou: We really dodged a bullet on that one. Here's hoping it continues this year. :beer


Amen, Broither !!

[Dan Healey]

Rain, what rain??? :bglasses:

[12lives]

Where is the A&W? If you are coming from the Red Roof...

- Bill

[70 Skylark Conv]

Didn't need A/C for the trip in Aug 04... most of my drive time, about 2200 miles, was 60's to 70's, and the 4+ days at Salem were pretty much in the 70's. I'm sure that was a good bit below average though, for OH in August. :puzzled:


Just wait until I hit the road. My luck it'll be 100 plus! :Dou:

[RATROASTER]

Good..............I'm glad Buick Nats are coming back!! Its so awesome being a local and having NAts in my backyard!! ++++++Plus...the Boardman cops will have too many other Buicks to chase!! and leave me the hell alone atleast for one week!! :TU:

[fastest430]

You ought to start a Buick parade during the day and have a designated route where families and friends could congregate. They have been doing it in Bowling Green for years.

[Michael Evans]

I rode through a few lots myself and could not beleve it. only a few were sitting outside at the Red Roof Inn. The rest of the lots were dead. I though of walking over to the club behind the hotel I staying- Microtel.(don't really recemend (sp) ). If I have my car painted and can find a way to carry it there, the Suncoupe will be there. With car or not I will be. Looks like it will not make it to Bowling Green this year either :( .

Where is everyone staying?

Hope to do more of this..........................

http://members.aol.com/sunbuick/burnoutpic