Can someone help decode this firewall tag?

[staged67gspwr]

Its off a `67 GS

[cjp69]

Its off a `67 GS

Interesting there does not appear to be a transmission option code. :Do No:

W Soft-ray tinted glass (windshield only)
X Power windows
2F Short Console
4C Ext. Belt Reveal
4F Outside remote control mirror
5Y Deluxe front seat belts

Not sure what the 5k stands for

Not sure about the interior color, don't know what the "I" stands for. the 19 would seem to be deluxe front buckets

I don't remember the paint codes, but I am sure someone does.

[staged67gspwr]

Yea maybe someone else can chime in,i would assume when they mean short console its for a stick car?long console code should be 2-G and its for an automatic no?they didnt have any other long consoles for GS`s in 67.

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[staged67gspwr]

191-B is interior color dark blue w/ buckets,and paint code is F which is blue mist but i dont know what the 4 next to it stands for?


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[cjp69]

191-B is interior color dark blue w/ buckets,and paint code is F which is blue mist but i dont know what the 4 next to it stands for?


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George,

was the interior dark blue in the pictures you sent me or black? I assumed they were black, but the quality was so low they could have been dark blue. If so, that's even cooler!

[staged67gspwr]

No the interior was blue,here is a clearer pic,but what you think about the short console long console codes?

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[cjp69]

No the interior was blue,here is a clearer pic,but what you think about the short console long console codes?

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George,

It makes sense to me that the short console code is for a stick car.

[Duane]

George,
The 4 in the paint code (F-4) stands for a Blue Convertible Top.
Duane

[staged67gspwr]

George,
The 4 in the paint code (F-4) stands for a Blue Convertible Top.
Duane


wow i didnt even think they had blue tops?Duane do you know what the K stands for?are we making sense on the console codes?

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[Duane]

George,
The short console is the 4-speed, the long console is the automatic, and YES I know what the fisher body option code 5K means. What will you give me if I tell you? You already have me looking up shifter boot numbers.
Duane

[GS-XNR]

GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations. You finally did it. And it has the same interior as my HT, except of course that funny shifer thing sticking out of the floor! :laugh: When do you get? Where is it? We need more pictures! Inquiring minds need to know.
Cheers
Harvey

[staged67gspwr]

George,
The short console is the 4-speed, the long console is the automatic, and YES I know what the fisher body option code 5K means. What will you give me if I tell you? You already have me looking up shifter boot numbers.
Duane



LOLOL,awe c`mon Duane what do you need from me and i`ll see what i can do,in the meantime can you tell me what the 5K means?i also wanted to ask you did they really have a blue top?

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[staged67gspwr]

GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations. You finally did it. And it has the same interior as my HT, except of course that funny shifer thing sticking out of the floor! :laugh: When do you get? Where is it? We need more pictures! Inquiring minds need to know.
Cheers
Harvey


Yup Harv i finally found it man and i am very excited,she may not be in mint condition but she has about a years old dust on her and is very solid,she should be here in about 3 weeks i`d say till we finish the transaction,i will post some pics in a couple of minutes,the car is in Missouri.

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[Duane]

George,
5K- Door Edge Guards

And yes some 67's had blue tops, and don't ask me what shade of blue, I don't have that info anymore. If you find someone with a "67 Color & Trim Book" I think it has samples in it.

Boy do I miss those books, I had an entire library from 1958 thru to 1987 for all the makes including GM, Ford, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, etc.
Duane

[staged67gspwr]

Duane,you are sooooooo the man dude :TU: thank you,what did you do with all your books?


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[Duane]

They were part of the package deal for selling the upholstery end of my business. When the guys came in to check out my shop, tools, dies, etc. their eyes bugged out when they saw my library.
Everything they needed for the 60's thru 70's muscle car interiors, as far as original trim design pictures, trim codes, vinyl samples, cloth samples, was all there in one package.
I tried to keep it but no dice.
Duane

[staged67gspwr]

damn man i bet that kills you.

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[Duane]

"Damn man i bet that kills you."

You'll never know how much. Glad to help.
Duane

[staged67gspwr]

Thanks again soooo much Duane,i gotta meet u in person some day. :TU:


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[Topless64-455]

This is on my GS400

[staged67gspwr]

Ed when you get a chance can you take a better or closer pic of the top?it looks like a dark blue if i`m not mistaken?


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[staged67gspwr]

Hi guys,car came in today,she looks pretty good,just needs alittle cleaning,i got some codes off the firewall under the drivers side fender can anyone tell me what these mean?its M T C Z marked with yellow,i also got the protecto plate

That reads


R. NAVARRO .............. 09-636
4116 Edgemere Ct. ............. 04-19-7
Indianapolis,IN .............. 7H259551


191FF4 ..................... 446677H259551
R378 ..................... N
DB01620 ................................. 478

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[staged67gspwr]

Here are the codes off the firewall

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here`s the car

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[cjp69]

Looking real good George, I bet it will look fantastic once you get it all cleaned up, just like your red one does now!

Was that one listed in Hemmings?? Somebody told me they saw a 4 speed car in there recently???

[staged67gspwr]

yea she should clean up pretty nice,the car was painted in late 80`s to early 90`s,still shines pretty good i`d say,not like my red one though but no sweat,this car wasnt listed for sale,there was one hardtop but wasnt in that great of shape and asking 15k.

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[Brad Conley]

Hi guys,car came in today,she looks pretty good,just needs alittle cleaning,i got some codes off the firewall under the drivers side fender can anyone tell me what these mean?its M T C Z marked with yellow,

George, I'm pretty sure the "M" is for manual brakes and the "C" is for Clutch transmission (manual trans). Don't know the others...

[staged67gspwr]

Cool thanks Brad,perhaps someone that knows might chime in?

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[staged67gspwr]

This is the latest news i got,it turns out the DB01620 code off the protecto plate is in fact a 3-speed manual trans code,if it were a Muncie the code would have a P in it,does this makes any sense?i could not get any other info about the firewall markings,where`s Duane when you need him? :bglasses:

[Mister T]

This is the latest news i got,it turns out the DB01620 code off the protecto plate is in fact a 3-speed manual trans code,if it were a Muncie the code would have a P in it,does this makes any sense?i could not get any other info about the firewall markings,where`s Duane when you need him? :bglasses:
George, I recall reading elsewhere on this site, some time ago, that a Ford toploader 3 speed was used in the 67 GS. I also think that there were only 9 such converts built in 67. that would make your car one rare combo if true. There is someone else on the board, don't remember who it is, who has a 67 GS convert factory 3 speed, in real rough shape though.
Perhaps that is what the code refers to. :confused: :Do No: Let's hope that Duane has the info on this. :TU:

[Topless64-455]

Tom the 3spd in rough shape was down in Omaha NE I believe and it was a top loader Ford tranny. I will look for the thread and post it here. George I will try to get a better picture of blue top but the interior I have is the same color as yours.


http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=56989
Here the link

[staged67gspwr]

Yea Duane where are you?lol we`ll see what he has to say on all this,thank you for the conv`t.top pic although someone told me its a light blue for `67?

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[71stagegs]

George nice car manI hope we see it at dp sat night LOL

[staged67gspwr]

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[Mister T]

Tom the 3spd in rough shape was down in Omaha NE I believe and it was a top loader Ford tranny. I will look for the thread and post it here.
http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=56989
Here the link
Ed, thanks for confirming that my memory hasn't totally vanished. :laugh: :TU:

I do recall another thread with some pics of that beast, did a quick search last night to no avail. I'll try again later today after work.

[Topless64-455]

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=57335

Here you go!

[Duane]

George,
Those markings would have been used by Fisher Body to build the shell.

I'm thinking,
"MT" stands for manual trans, as they are next to each other
"C" for clutch, so they knew which pedal assembly to use
"Z" for z-bar
But then again I am just guessing. Sounds good though doesn't it.
Duane

[GoldBoattail455]

Sweet Buick George! :beer :TU:

[staged67gspwr]

Coool thanks Duane,again you da man :TU: are you familiar with the DB code being the 3 speed?this is the info i got as Muncies had a "P" code.

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[staged67gspwr]

How do you guys suggest i approach this issue on the cracked dash pad?reparing or replacing the dash pad and dying it blue?


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[Nailhead]

George,
I recall reading somewhere that Pontiac division didn't have a suitable heavy duty 3 speed for the GTO so they sourced from Ford. The same Buick part number for the complete 3 speed transmission is also listed in the Pontiac parts book and labelled as "Deerborn" model, i.e. Ford. Same part number was used from 65-69, maybe more years. Also the 67 Buick chassis manual has a separate section for the GS400 3 speed manual transmission.
John

[staged67gspwr]

George,
I recall reading somewhere that Pontiac division didn't have a suitable heavy duty 3 speed for the GTO so they sourced from Ford. The same Buick part number for the complete 3 speed transmission is also listed in the Pontiac parts book and labelled as "Deerborn" model, i.e. Ford. Same part number was used from 65-69, maybe more years. Also the 67 Buick chassis manual has a separate section for the GS400 3 speed manual transmission.
John



John,Dearborn model is probably the DB code on my protecto plate,the Olds 442 also used this trans fro 65-69 and thats where i got my info from,its really too bad the 3 speed trans is not in there anymore.

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[staged67gspwr]

Here is a pic of the protecto plate,i`ve flipped it around so you can read it,note the DB code bottom left following the serial #.

[BuickWidow]

George I had a 68 GS400 3 speed that had a Ford trans. I heard they used it due to a fire at the saginaw plant in 67?
Tim

[staged67gspwr]

Yea Tim,i think from 65-69 they used the ford 3-speeds.

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[buick64203]

George.....There are 14 people named "R. Navarro" in Indiana. I looked up the address 4116 Edgemere Ct and nobody named Navarro lives there. Looks like there are three separate residences at that address. Do you have a first name on him? If not, looks like you got 14 calls to make. :laugh:

[staged67gspwr]

Jason,first name is Ramirro.

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[staged67gspwr]

I spoke to few previous owners,i may be able to get the original case of the trans back if the guy can dig it out,he says he may still have it?will update as soon as i find out more info.

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[staged67gspwr]

cleaned her up some and took some pics,looks better ha?

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