06 Bash Event information

[TXGS]

March 18th

Lone Star Buick Brand X Bash 06...
Temple, TX
Temple Academy Dragway (Aka The River or to the Locals "Little River")

Hotel Information:

Days Inn - Temple TX
Location:
1104 N General Bruce Dr, Temple, TX
Reservation under Buick Event or Buick Race
Reservation is for the 18th of March only
Cost: 55.95 Flat Fee (1 to 4people per room)
Reservations will be Accepted for Group rates till
March 4th 2006
Call Monica at:
254) 774-9223
15 Rooms are reserved for this event. If we need more
please let me know.


Timeline.:
BBQ grill Fired up at around Noon. "BBQ provided by sponsors"
Social/eating time 1- 3:30
Tech Lineup 3:30 - 4
Tech 4PM
Time trials Start 5PM
Race starts 7PM
Cost
$8.00 per person (gate Fee)
$20.00 (to Race)

Payouts From the Buick Event

The Track will also have a payout for there event also So there is a chance to win their money also.

1st place. $250 +Plaque
2nd place $150 +Plaque
3rd Place $100 +Plaque

New For this year

The RED EYE Award.

This prestigous award will be Given to the First Buick to show us a redlight during competion......

And Another Annual award yet to be named.... Based on an ill performing vehicle.... Award will be passed from awardee to awardee and will not be given to the same person two years in a row.

Track Rules - Street meet
http://www.templeacademy.com/street.html

Those that do not fall into the Street Meet criteria will run time only.

See You there!

[70 Skylark Conv]

Thanks Phil.

I think some reverse psychology might work for me this year. :Dou: :laugh:

[TXGS]

And Another Annual award yet to be named.... Based on an ill performing vehicle.... Award will be passed from awardee to awardee and will not be given to the same person two years in a row.

Dee, are you worried about getting this award this year......

Any changes made to your vehicle since the last race. :3gears:

[70 Skylark Conv]

Dee, are you worried about getting this award this year......

Any changes made to your vehicle since the last race. :3gears:

Not worried about winning this award at all. Reverse psychology... :Smarty:

If there is an award for "it" my luck is I'm not going to win it. See? I never win anything no matter how hard I try. :TU: :laugh:

No changes yet. Going to ignition next....plus a totally full tank of gas. Gotta try something! :Brow:

[jamyers]

...No changes yet. Going to ignition next....plus a totally full tank of gas. Gotta try something! :Brow:

Dee got rid of an old fuel tank sock that I'm betting was blocking the line...but I can't talk her into going out and blasting onto a highway on-ramp to check it out.

Come on, Dee - you know you want to! :3gears:

[70 Skylark Conv]

Dee got rid of an old fuel tank sock that I'm betting was blocking the line...but I can't talk her into going out and blasting onto a highway on-ramp to check it out.

Come on, Dee - you know you want to! :3gears:

I've blasted this sucker all over the place. :3gears: Up and down the street :3gears: , tried the entrance ramp :3gears: , the 1/8th mile :3gears: , everything :3gears: It just doesn't like the 1/4 mile track at Temple :3gears: :3gears: :moonu: !

It runs good everywhere except Temple! I need another 1/4 mile track that's not 60 miles from home so I can really try it out. :3gears: :3gears: :3gears:

[napier]

Dee, I think you have answered this before, but I forget. Are you using a Stage 1 pump?

Ben

[70 Skylark Conv]

Dee, I think you have answered this before, but I forget. Are you using a Stage 1 pump?

Ben

I put a cheap-o on it just to see what it would do. Same thing.

[napier]

Was the "cheap-o" an equivalent high volume mechanical pump to the Stage 1?

I struggled with the same problem as you for over a year, so I understand your frustration.

[napier]

I've blasted this sucker all over the place. :3gears: Up and down the street :3gears: , tried the entrance ramp :3gears: , the 1/8th mile :3gears: , everything :3gears: It just doesn't like the 1/4 mile track at Temple :3gears: :3gears: :moonu: !

Its really not possible to replicate track conditions (burnout followed by a quarter mile blast) in the city unless you are an idiot (hopefully I am not offending anyone).

This is exactly how my car would behave. It drove like a champ on the street, but fell on its face at the track, no matter what I changed. Three mechanical pumps and a new fuel system from tank to carb later, I threw in the towel and put on an electric pump which finally gave me the ability to have a full throttle blast down the quarter with steady fuel pressure.

Dee -- The only way you are going to be able to rule out fuel delivery is to spend $100 on a fuel pressure guage and a 6 ft length of -4 line and mount that sucker on the cowl where you can see it while youve got it floored. If you do not have a fuel pressure drop and you do not want a guage on your cowl, sell the thing at a small discount.

Thats my $.02.

Ben

[jamyers]

I think I saw a fuel pressure gauge over on the BPG board, asking price was < $50, iirc.

[TXGS]

Mike Garrison bought it. I was thinking of Dee also when that came up for sale.

[napier]

Seems like the Autoguage (cheaper Autometer line) guage I bought was only about $35. But, the line was like $40 and the T to tie it into the fuel line was another $10. I fabbed a bracket out of aluminum sheet from the hardware store to mount it to the dash. So, maybe my $100 number was a bit high, but its a ballpark figure.

Ben

[70 Skylark Conv]

Seems like the Autoguage (cheaper Autometer line) guage I bought was only about $35. But, the line was like $40 and the T to tie it into the fuel line was another $10. I fabbed a bracket out of aluminum sheet from the hardware store to mount it to the dash. So, maybe my $100 number was a bit high, but its a ballpark figure.

Ben

Here's the big question. Why is it the car was running fine (13's) before and all of a sudden it doesn't now? If the lines are clean, tank is clean, new fuel pump, and it ran fine before, what happened? I don't understand how it can be so thirsty now compared to before? :rant:

Can I borrow your gauge? Or buy it "second-hand" cheap? I've got to get something done quick before Temple or I'll be winning that prize Phil was talking about! :Dou: :laugh: :laugh:

BTW: I don't TNT in the city because with my luck, I'll get caught and loose my license! :3gears:

Here's a question: If it dies on the track and then starts right up after it dies, that doesn't sound like a fuel starvation, does it? Wouldn't it take at least a few cranks to get fuel back to the carb to restart it? :Do No: Thinking maybe a break-down in the ignition system? :Smarty:

[napier]

Here's the big question. Why is it the car was running fine (13's) before and all of a sudden it doesn't now? If the lines are clean, tank is clean, new fuel pump, and it ran fine before, what happened? I don't understand how it can be so thirsty now compared to before? :rant:

I dont know Dee, maybe you got lucky when you ran it before. I do believe, however, that a 13 second car is right on the edge of being able to get by with a stock pump. Some people get by, some dont. I could not get by, even with a higher volume mechanical pump.

Also, I do not know for sure that this is your problem. But, it seems very plausible given what I have gone through with my car.

Like I said, the only way you are going to know for sure is to test it with a guage.



Can I borrow your gauge? Or buy it "second-hand" cheap? I've got to get something done quick before Temple or I'll be winning that prize Phil was talking about! :Dou: :laugh: :laugh:

I would be happy to loan it to you at the track. You would need to get yours ready to accept the guage before hand with a fitting to T the guage in to your fuel system. All's you need is a spot for a 3/8 npt fitting (I think) to come in. It would be easy for me to unhook it at the track. You would also have to temporarily mount it to your cowl which would require drilling two holes. Let me know if you are wanting to do this and I will figure out the size of the npt port you would need to add.

I am not interested in selling mine as I still need it.


Here's a question: If it dies on the track and then starts right up after it dies, that doesn't sound like a fuel starvation, does it? Wouldn't it take at least a few cranks to get fuel back to the carb to restart it? :Do No: Thinking maybe a break-down in the ignition system? :Smarty:

Does it just die right off the bat, or does it surge back and forth for a while then die? Does the dieing or surging occur at any particular rpm range or does it happen all over the board?

My car never died, although I guess it would have eventually if I had let it completely dry out of fuel. Mine surged and would do so erradically in the RPM range. But, as soon as I let off of the throttle, the pressure would regain and the surging would stop.

If you are not getting surging, then it may not be a fuel issue??

Have you posted on this in the BBB tech section yet? Might not be a bad idea to get some other opinions.

Phil, sorry for changing the direction of this thread, just trying to help out.

Ben

[TXGS]

Ttt :TU:

[TXGS]

More info added.

[70 Skylark Conv]

I called to make a reservation at Days Inn and asked what was the latest I could cancel my reservation in case the event is rained out. They said the latest we could cancel due to the group reservation rate is March 4. For $10 more, you can cancel up to the day before the reservation.

Just wanted to let you know that just didn't in case you didn't know. I'd hate for anyone to be out $55.95 + taxes just because they didn't know.

So does anyone want a room mate. I don't snore, promise! :Dou:

[deweylittle]

Dee, I called yesterday and made our reservation and they said we could cancel up until the day before. no mention of the group rate precluding that. if it came to that, i would just dispute the credit card charge. of course I called later in the day, so rather than speak with Monica, I think I was speaking with someone in Bangalore, so who knows... :Dou:

dewey

[70 Skylark Conv]

Dee, I called yesterday and made our reservation and they said we could cancel up until the day before. no mention of the group rate precluding that. if it came to that, i would just dispute the credit card charge. of course I called later in the day, so rather than speak with Monica, I think I was speaking with someone in Bangalore, so who knows... :Dou:

dewey

I spoke with Monica and she said there was no way to change it. Did you get the name of the guy from "Bangalore"? :laugh: $65+tons of tax is a little much for me since I'm saving up for BG and Salem this year.

So any offers to share a room? No perverts, smokers, snorers, or anyone wanting any favors allowed. You guys know who I'm talking about! :Dou: :laugh: :laugh:

[TXGS]

I spoke with Monica she she stated that if cancellations are needed then we need to have this done on or before 4:00pm on the 15th. They requested a few days advanced notice, but not the 4th. :beer

[jamyers]

Got my room nailed down. I'd have shared yours, Dee, but my college buddy is coming with me, and he SNORES something awful. You may have heard him, he lives in Sanger... :laugh:

Oh, I just noticed the other day that my rear tires are 7 years old. Good tread, but I'll replace them anyways. So...do I wait until after I roast them on the 18th to replace them, or do I take a couple of hundred miles off the new ones at the Bash? (and how much are drag radials, anyways?...)

[TXGS]

Just a reminder that the reservations for the group discount at the Days Inn end tomorrow. So call if you want to book a room for the X bash, otherwise you will be paying the going rate for a room. I have included the hotel info if you need it.

Hotel Information:

Days Inn - Temple TX
Location:
1104 N General Bruce Dr, Temple, TX
Reservation under Buick Event or Buick Race
Reservation is for the 18Th of March only
Cost: 55.95 Flat Fee (1 to 4people per room)
Reservations will be accepted for group rates till
March 4Th 2006
To cancel your reserved room it must be done before the 15Th of March before 4PM.

Call Monica at:
254) 774-9223
15 Rooms are reserved for this event. If we need more
please let me know.

Thanks
Phil Green

[TXGS]

TTT 10 days and counting. :3gears:

[70 Skylark Conv]

Got my room nailed down. I'd have shared yours, Dee, but my college buddy is coming with me, and he SNORES something awful. You may have heard him, he lives in Sanger... :laugh:

Oh, I just noticed the other day that my rear tires are 7 years old. Good tread, but I'll replace them anyways. So...do I wait until after I roast them on the 18th to replace them, or do I take a couple of hundred miles off the new ones at the Bash? (and how much are drag radials, anyways?...)

Is that what that noise is coming from up north of Denton? Thought we had a freight train running all night long!!! :grin:

[jcamp116]

I was just verifying on the temple website about the rules for wearing a helmet. I know it is a good idea to have one, but I have never had one before and don't know where to buy (try-on) a helmet locally. Any ideas?

I don't want any suprises at the track, so here is the question. Is a drag radial considered a slick?

According to the rules, if any car is running slicks or better than 13.99, driver must wear a helmet. I don't think I will hit 13.99, but if everything goes to plan, my car will be posi equiped and running on new BFG drag radials next saturday!!! I am hoping this gets me into the 14's. If drag radials are considered slicks, I will go for an open face helmet, if not, I will put off a helmet until I can afford the one I want (full face).

Thanks for any info,

[TXGS]

I got a helmet if you need it jarrod. :beer

[jcamp116]

Thanks, Phil, I just ran back in to edit my post to ask if any anyone had one I could borrow!!! I would like to borrow it, better to have it than to not.

Thanks,

[TXGS]

No problem Jarrod, I will bring it with me. :beer

[napier]

Any car running below a 14 needs a helmet for the driver.

[1970GS455]

I don't want any suprises at the track, so here is the question. Is a drag radial considered a slick?



NO, a drag radial is NOT considered a slick. Still, a helmet isnt a bad thing. I at one time went to a motorcycle shop to try on helmets, and later ordered a helmet when I knew my size from Summit I think, dont remember. :TU: Might want to check and make sure your pumpkin isnt bigger than Phils. I say this only because my mellon is big, and I cant share helmets with many people.

[jcamp116]

Thanks Wayne, that info for the drag radials is the exact info I was looking for. Good to know they are not considered slicks.

I will check out a motorcycle shop when I get ready to buy my own, that's a great idea. Both Phil and JR have graciously offered to let me borrow their helmets. Hopefully one will work. And, you are right, I would like to have one even though I don't NEED one per the rules.

Thanks,