vin and body tag where is the line in the sand ?

So if a uni-body dodge has no frame( just an engine cradle) , it's not really a car now is it ? At least according to CHP :laugh:.


DL

 

These buck .98 parts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TORQUE-BOX-...6-HEMI-440-6-PACK-BIG-BLOCK-USA-/400687228854

 

that was not discussed. the CHP conversation was about a framed 67 skylark and skylark GS. so your statement about uni-body and CHP is speculation

 

Mr. Sunset is now saying this former patrolman is dead wrong. Maybe he was well into the egg nog when you contacted him? Personally, I think he's right and somebody else is well into the egg nog.

Somebody got a junior drill motor / rivet gun set for Christmas!!!

 

:grin: Good one DL!

 

Stacey, it became very obvious very quickly to me that the original post had everything to do with its title. This guy comes on here and says I don't do bodywork but I've got a nice Skylark and a junk GS. Whatever shall I do?

 

Not that he was wrong. and to be fair not his field either. He said for "me" not to touch them. not that it couldn't be done. BIG difference

 

awww. are you upset mr albrecht? you don't like being wrong do you. please show some respect for other people please. this is supposed to be a respectful forum where members should not be mocked. If your out of informative information that is inline with the original post. please move on.

 

I think the question has been answered. thank you all for you responses

 

Not in the least, thank you Mr. Sunset for asking.

 

As I said state laws can differ, but if it get sold in other states you will be held responsible for it's laws. In MI as many other states you will be responsible for all monies and be lucky not to go to jail.

 

Easy boys.. lets have a nice discussion..

 

You are aware are you of the hidden VINs on your car are you? How do you plan to address that? Please let us know.

 

I think we are saying the same thing...maybe not. If he were to take the GS badges, air cleaner and throw it on the Skylark and leave the Skylark VIN and cowl tag, it would be a clone. You could create a GS with parts from Ebay this way. Going through the trouble of putting the Skylark body on the original GS frame is a different deal altogether. Much more involved. He has an entire GS car to start with, presumably with the parts that make it a GS still available. In this case he isn't trying to create a car that never existed from the factory, he is trying to get a rusty factory GS back on the road.

Clearly there are two camps on this subject that will probably never see eye-to-eye but to me there is a difference. Cloning a car with badges and a few parts is relatively easy. Rebodying a car in the spirit of originality because the body is too far gone is different. Unfortunately most of the Buicks out there, even GS cars don't warrant the investment to do full-on major rust repair. At least he is keeping one more GS from heading to the junk yard or getting parted out.

 

DL,

That's not what we are talking about... your talking about changing a sliver GS455 into a Burgundy Mist Stage 1. I understand the deception and "fraud" there.

I am talking about Repairing that Burgandy Mist Stage 1.

Bring it back to factory condition, using factory parts and spending a wheelbarrow full of cash doing it.

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that this is wrong. As I said, the legalities are another matter altogether, that's not the discussion here..

JW

 

I still think there is some sort of misunderstanding here between you and CHiPs, but assuming they are willing to swap V.I.N. tags for you, I think your own research has uncovered the simple fact that it is illegal for the person doing the "rebody" to remove and reattach the tags onto another body. Agreed?

You mentioned the DMV will have documentation that CHiPs did the swap. I know California is weird with the pink slips/title thing. Did they say the title would be changed to reconstructed, or something to that affect? Was anything offered up as far as paperwork details?

 

As Korrie stated, they are stamped in hidden places. Were you aware of this?

 

Morning Brian,

Yup, I certainly understand your feelings here. You place special emphasis on the body tub, over other sheetmetal or running gear. I respect that opinion.

I agree that it's a substantial portion of the entire package. But to me, my opinion is that the body tub is the one part that is common to all Buick A body HT's. The running gear is what really makes a GS. The body just gives you a place to sit, and keep the bugs out of your teeth..

I think the key word is "opinion" here.

That GSX we backhalved was a excellent example of the best repair, within the customers budget. I also gave him a good deal on it, it was an interesting project to tackle. And we did not have to deal with this whole community disapproval of "re-body".

We would not have replaced the body tub, because we would have had to go out and find one... buy it, transport it, take it apart.. easily spending thousands and thousands of dollars. Way more than what we did spend, and way out of his budget.

The days of $500 Skylarks roaming the streets and highways of every town in America are long gone. Buying a parts car these days, is a major investment in the project.



But then again, that's my opinion.