Grommet fell into manifold, how screwed am I?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by ThinRedPaste, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    And when in a pinch, pull the oil dip stick, rub some oil on your fingers and go from there.
     
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  2. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    It will lay in there until we are all dead and not make a difference.
     
  3. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    Perfect opportunity to swap that 2-bbl for a Quadrajet. Tell the wife that "it's got to come off, and a Q-jet will get better mpg, so it's actually a good thing"

    Otherwise, leave it be. Half the Buick engines in existence have a grommet sitting on the valley pan - why should yours be any different?
     
  4. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Platinum Level Contributor

    I lost my PCV grommet into the manifold of my 430. When I asked if leaving it there would be an issue, the response I received was:

    "It'll likely get chewed up by the cam, and the pieces will fall into the oil pan and likely clog the oil pump pickup screen...maybe get past the screen and jam up the pump too. I wouldn't leave it in there."

    Buy an intake manifold gasket set, and set aside some time to take it off & get it outta there.

    Here's my thread about my experience with it:

    http://v8buick.com/index.php?threads/430-wildcat-engine-pcv-grommet-hell.214612/
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2018
  5. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    How is it going to get past the valley pan gasket? If it did, how would it get into the camshaft without doing some kind of dukes of hazzard move? I can assure you there is lots more crap in your oil pan unless this is a current rebuild.
     
  6. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    BAD ADVICE. Leave it alone.
     
  7. GNandGS

    GNandGS Well-Known Member

    "it disintegrated and fell in"

    If in small bits and pieces I'm not so sure to just ignore it. As a full grommet I would just let it sit on the pan gasket.
     
  8. No Lift

    No Lift Platinum Level Contributor

    X2 I wouldn't go near what appears to be a never removed intake for a grommet. I've had them push in over the years even knowing how tricky the new grommets are to install the PCV and I still screw it up. On every one many miles later there's the grommet laying on the intake gasket, safe and sound.

    However, if that engine has never been apart and more importantly that timing cover has never been off I'd be more worried about what kind of shape the timing chain set is in and in particular what kind of shape the factory plastic coated cam gear is in. The plastic on the gear has been known to start breaking up and causing cam timing to jump and not in a good way. If there is evidence that the timing cover has been off before then you are probably in good shape because it probably was changed.
     
  9. Brad W

    Brad W Miles from nowhere...

    I had to operate on mine to get it out.
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    Getting the new one in wasn't bad but trying to shove the PCV into the grommet was almost impossible. No mater what I tried with any lube it just would not go in so I used #11 X-acto blade and a reamer to enlarge the grommet just a hair for me to jam the PCV home. I then checked to make sure I didn't have an vacuum leak which I didn't have. Although I am trying to chase down a vacuum leak I can't find. I've tried spraying wd-40 around the carb ( 4 bbl quadrajet) and had no change in the rpm also held a 3/8 hose to my ear and checked all around and not find a thing... I'll keep at it though.
     
  10. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Dont worry about it, better than a bolt or nut down your carb!:(
     
  11. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    LOL! And true!


    It cannot get past the valley pan gasket.
     

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