Windshield experts?! Non Buick

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by hwprouty, Apr 14, 2024.

  1. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    I am trying to fit the new windshield in my '76 F100 and it is fighting me and winning.
    I can get the seal around the glass, but when I try to put the stainless trim in its channel, the seal comes off the glass, I also tried putting the trim in the seal first, and then put it around the glass but that didn't seem to work either.
    This truck uses a one piece rubber seal that has grooves/channels for the glass, trim and truck body...
    Any advice out there?
     
  2. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Wow! That sounds like a torture test.

    So the gasket holds the trim on? Is there glue involved? Maybe a picture of the gasket and trim?
     
  3. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    No glue Max. I'll take a couple pics of the unit tomorrow......
     
  4. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    You may have the incorrect windshield seal. There are a few different sizes of them and some are terrible for leaking after install. There appear to be many complaints with Dennis Carpenters window seals but most times it's because the wrong seal is being used for the application.
     
  5. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    Is that similar to the old Chevy trucks? On some of those, you put the seal on the body, install the glass and then put the piece in the seal to tighten the seal. I've never installed one of those, but I've seen it done. The installer had a tool to expand the channel in the seal so the center piece could be installed. How about this? Precision Tool part #0002, lock strip insert tool.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2024
  6. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    I see one on tube where they fit the seal to the glass, tape it in place, feed a cord around the perimeter to help pull the the flange over the metal from the inside of the truck?

    they don’t even have trim and you can tell it’s a big struggle to get it right. They suggest that the modern versions of the windshield aren’t quite right.

    They use some kind of black goo also.

    I know I did one where the trim was like a wedge that went in last to expand the seal and keep it in place? It went in last. Soapy water was very helpful.
     
  7. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

     
  8. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    I actually edited my reply after I saw the video on Precision Tool's website. I always thought the seal was installed on the glass first, then installed with rope and then the lock strip was installed, but I haven't seen one installed for 35+ years. I do know that they used soapy water or some kind of lubricant and installer tool for the lock strip. I'm sure that they didn't use any kind of sealant.
     
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  9. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    Good replies!
    The seal seems to be the correct one, the trim has its own channel in the seal and doesn't seem to be used to 'expand' the seal once installed in the truck.
    I did see one youtube video and they struggle getting the windshield in the truck, they cut away when they get to the trim install, only saying when the video starts back up that 'That was a chore' and magically the trim is in!!
    They did use a 'bedding goop' and I did as well, doesn't glue just helps the seal go over the glass.
    I'll take some pictures here soon as the coffee kicks in!!

    And thanks for the attention, I appreciate it all..
     
  10. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    Here you can see the glass is in the seal...
     
  11. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    Here is the channel for the trim...
     
  12. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    This is the side of the trim that goes in the 'channel', I see the picture is horrible...
     
  13. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    Thats better, that 'hook' has to go into that 'channel' all the while keeping the seal intact on the glass...
     
  14. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    Then this is where the 'rope' goes to help pull the seal over the truck cab opening, what a mofo!
     
  15. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

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    This is what happens, I go to put the trim in the channel and the seal comes off the glass....
    I think maybe I just need to keep working it, I'm not impatient but at some point you gotta call for help!LOL
     
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  16. dukec

    dukec Platinum Level Contributor

    Maybe the seal goes on the glass then it gets installed on the truck. With the metal trim being installed after it’s mounted on the truck.
     
  17. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    That would be my guess also, but that metal edge of the trim looks wicked and it would be so easy to tear the sh1t out of the gasket,

    Not sure.
     
  18. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking dukec has it right. Rope in the glass and then install the trim molding. Use liberal amounts of spray glass cleaner as a lube. A helper may come in handy, too.
     
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  19. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    dukec, I just don't see that trim going in after that seal is 'pinched' in place.... But that will be next!

    I talked to my buddy today, and tomorrow he has a 'hired gun' coming over to put the glass in his '69 Mach 1.... I'm going to go pick his brain!

    Stay tuned!
     
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  20. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Success?
     
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