Best antifreeze for 455 with aluminum heads and intake

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  1. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    Hello,

    I’m hoping to obtain updated answers, car is driven on the street with the occasional burn out. Thoughts on the best antifreeze to use? Thank you in advance.
     
  2. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    Conventional antifreeze is fine for those, it’s when you switch to a all aluminum radiator that you’ll want the properties found in the Orange coolants.
     
  3. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    The water is more important that the anti-freeze.. used distilled water only..

    JW
     
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  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Aluminum has been used in engines for decades now. Any name brand anti freeze is fine, and is formulated for today's engines. As Jim said, use distilled water when you mix it up.

    Having said that, anti freeze's main purpose is to prevent the coolant from freezing in cold temperatures. It also has an additive package for anti corrosion and seal/bearing longevity. Anti freeze DOES NOT transfer heat as well as 100% distilled water, so the more you use, the worse your heat transfer will be. That is why you will see a warning on the back of the container that says, "concentrations higher than 70% not recommended". If you live in a warm climate where freeze up is not a concern, use lower concentrations. I recommend 25%. I also recommend a product like Red Line Water Wetter.

    https://www.redlineoil.com/waterwetter
     
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  5. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    I agree. I changed to 20% anti-freeze 80% distilled water and Water Wetter back in February and my car now runs about 10 degrees cooler and also doesn't get as hot when idling for extended periods. (Like at long traffic lights).
     
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  6. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    Thank you everybody for the information, will try a mixture of the 20%, orange, 80%, distilled and water wetter.
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Make sure you read the label...some containers already come pre-mixed with water.

    Devon
     
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  8. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    Correct, I’m planning to buy the concentrated bottle.
     
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  9. Dr. Roger

    Dr. Roger Stock enthusiast

    Just make sure you mix the right concentration based on the climate you are in. I use 50:50 since it occasionally gets below zero F here.
     
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  10. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    Thank you, planning on doing that. Although I live in an area that can get pretty cold winters, the car would be driven late spring until early fall and garage during the winter.
     
  11. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    Yes and no. The water facilitates heat transfer. (Nucleatic boiling) But, the coolant has additives to prevent corrosion. Also the ethylene glycol will raise the boiling point and provide freeze protection.

    I agree that the coolants are all more or less the same. If you are starting with a new system (rebuilt engine and what not) pick what you want. If you have an existing system, do not change coolants. Specifically do not mix the traditional green (silicated) with the OAT variants (Dex-cool is one). The additive packages do not mix well.
     
  12. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    Would you suggest a bottle of green that’s premixed 50/50 or mixing 20% concentrate with 80% distilled and Wetter Water?
     
  13. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Marcus, we're on the verge of overthinking this.

    What's your coldest night in the last twenty years? We can go from there with coolant mix advice.

    The hot part we can figure out later.

    Devon
     
  14. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Here's a chart you can use as a guidline for how much water vs anti-freeze to use for freeze protection during winter. As for the boiling point, keep in mind that the water is under pressure in the radiator so the boiling points in the chart do not consider the pressure.

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  15. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club


    Larry, what's your take on Evans waterless coolant?

    I switched over to Evans waterless coolant and your recommended Griffin aluminum radiator and these changes eliminated my high heat temperature issue.
    Have you ever tired it or know of anybody who did? What did they say about it?
    It’s even approved by the NHRA. Vet
     
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  16. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Without question if you have the wallet for it theEvans is the best!
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I have heard some good things about it. I don't need it for my car. My engine runs at the stat temperature. Evans adds complexity, and if you have a leak, or a burst hose, you might have a problem getting more of it.
     
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  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The overwhelming majority of coolant boiling point is provided by pressure. 3*/lb. So 15 psi elevates the boiling point 45* all by itself. Freeze protection is the overwhelming concern here. Make sure you maintain it for the expected temperatures in you locale.
     
  19. Marcus brevly

    Marcus brevly Birdofprey455

    This is terrific information, looks like I’ll be right around 80%, thank you all.
     
  20. Da Torquester.

    Da Torquester. Platinum Level Contributor

    Not to get off topic but what do some of you use for an anode to prevent electrolysis ?
     

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