Holocaust Remembrance Day

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Guy Parquette, May 6, 2024.

  1. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Why is this still a touchy situation? They are and were human beings. Maybe I’m ignorant but this is/was just wrong. Not trying to be political and believe I’m not. This is a whole nother level of cruelty.
    I don’t - won’t have a problem if the moderators have to delete this.
    My father fought in WW2 and was very close to “giving his all”. Matter of fact, in the end, he did. We as a family always stood up for human rights. And in his end he forgave. It goes both ways
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2024
  2. gokitty

    gokitty Platinum Level Contributor

    Some folks are uncomfortable with honest ,factual history. The truth is not always pretty.
     
  3. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    It’s funny (not really) what they feel about history
     
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  4. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    History is important, much can and is learned from it.
     
  5. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    I went to Auschwitz last year. Absolutely horrific.
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Because to this day, there are Holocaust deniers out there.
     
  7. philip roitman

    philip roitman Well-Known Member

    Sad and disgusting, but true. Lots of deniers out there. History repeats itself too often.
     
  8. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    It seems no matter what some people will never believe but that is not the case for me as my father and other family fought in WW2. It amazes me how much hate is still in the world even today. I am thankful I did not grow up with hate in my home or around me. My Parents, Family, & Friends are made up of people that are positive and good people. Sadly this is not the case for many and they are brainwashed / raised with hate for others for many reasons. I feel so blessed to have peace in my life and wish that for so many in this world.
     
  9. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    you did? Wow that’s awesome. Normandy beach, Ardennes forest where my father was wounded and captured in The Battle Of The Bulge, then imprisoned in Bad Orb Germany is on my bucket list.
     
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  10. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Yep. My wife's family is from Poland, and we visited for her cousin's first communion. Spent some time taking in the sights and culture in Krakow, Czestahowa, etc. Salt mines, castle ruins, churches. It is RICH in history.

    Auschwitz was incredibly sobering. Touring the "bunks" that were set up at the railroad tracks where they would load-in millions, and seeing how they were stacked into those places just makes you sick on what they had to endure just to survive.
     
  11. Storm1

    Storm1 Silver Level contributor

    As the son of a WWII vet, and with an uncle who survived a concentration camp in Poland, I have zero tolerance for the deniers.
    I'll make no excuses, or apologies for my convictions.
     
  12. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    My Dad was a Holocaust survivor. He and my Aunt were sent to the Mauthausen camp in 1938 outside of Vienna where they lived. They were children of a Jewish father (Killed in WWI) even though his Mother (my Grandmother) was a Christian. She was able to negotiate their release after she obtained work papers for them. (But not before they both were given their identity tattoos) My Aunt went to England and my Dad went to South America and then immigrated to New York where he met my Mother and the rest is history.

    Kind of a funny story.................My Dad landed at Ellis Island, NY on New Years Eve 1940. He was in Times Square without speaking a word of English. Thought all Americans were crazy and almost got back on the boat! Fortunately for all of us, he didn't.
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  13. Skyhawk

    Skyhawk Well-Known Member

    Made my second visit to the holocaust museum in DC 2 weeks. An unforgettable visit and very sad. Very rich In history and how we can learn from the past. Yet we didn't.
    I always wondered how it happened when I learned about it high school and from my grandparents. Well the covid crisis and what's going on now in the world with control of the news and brainwashing is exactly what happened. So sad and anyone that believes it didn't happen needs mental help. One of the most horrific if not the most horrific events for human civilization as we know it.
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  14. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    If you possibly can, visit Omaha and the other Normandy beaches. The bride and I had a private tour guide who was wonderful. When I took a good look at Omaha Beach I said to her "This is the perfect beach to defend." She said that on the tenth anniversary of the invasion (BTW: The French call it the liberation; to them the Germans were the invaders) a general said that "This beach is impossible to take from the sea, the reason that we were successful is because we didn't know that." A little known fact is that France gave the land for the graveyard at Omaha beach to the United States, so that the American soldiers who died there could be buried on American soil.
     
  15. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes it does!

    Yep, many young people are raised or learn by example from their parents that black people are bad, Jewish people are bad, anybody different is bad.
    I wasn’t raised with any of that type of “nurturing” Heck, it wasn’t till I was 16/17 that I heard someone say something nasty about Jewish people, I’m thinking “what’s wrong with Jewish people?” And TBH, every Jewish person I’ve met has been very generous and kind.
    I interact with a lot of blacks, and everyone has been polite and friendly.
    I HATE it when I run into and individual that makes a blanket statement about “other than their” ethnicity.
     
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  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yep, and like you said the media controls what they want us to know, and if the media didn’t report it, or there’s no statue, memorial or plaque for remembrance, it didn’t happen:rolleyes:
     
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  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    First Amendment to the constitution,

    " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    The news is free to report whatever they want. There is no law saying that the news media must always publish the truth. They report the news as they see it, and it is largely opinion based, as well as agenda driven. There are several exceptions to freedom of speech, obscenity, defamation, harassment, hate speech, threats, incitement, and copyright infringement are a few. There is a news corporation that has paid out over 3/4 of a billion dollars for defamation, and currently faces additional lawsuits that run into the billions of dollars.

    If you want the truth, you must seek it. That takes some investigation, critical thinking, and a willingness to listen to those you disagree with, as well as those you agree. Most people don't do that. They get their news from one news source, social media, podcasts, chain e mails, uncle Bob, or Joe Blow down the street. They habitually watch one source of news, believe what they hear, and consider the case closed. They really don't go beyond that, they have no interest, even though it can affect them greatly. It's easier to do that. Look at the amount of people in this country who don't vote. IMO, that is shameful. If I had my way, I'd make election day a national holiday, and for essential workers, they would have to be given paid time off to vote. We should make it a national priority to encourage voting, not suppress it.

    I believe in Democracy even when it doesn't go my way. I think everyone should.
     
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  18. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I feel pretty much like Larry, but I'm not sure that it's a wise idea to encourage those who don't inform themselves, or care about the issues, to vote. I don't believe that I have missed voting in an election since I first registered to vote. If I'm too lazy to get off my arse and vote, I don't feel that it's reasonable to bi--h about the people who end up getting elected. I demand the right to complain about our elected officials.
     
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  19. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    Well, fortunately for your family, but not for us board members.:D

    Thinking of visiting Auschwitz this summer if plans work out. Have always wanted to visit Yad Vashem.

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  20. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Isn’t that something? And could again. This is horrible
     

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