1964 Buick Electra all original... I need HELP!

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  1. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    Haha sorry for the vagueness. True, I don't want a ton of visitors given that this is a totally public forum. I am in baltimore but I'd be willing to have the car towed someplace close if someone that really knows what they are doing could help me out.

    i have been trying to read everyday after work about carbs, distributors, etc.... It just is really tough to understand when all you have ever worked on are cars newer than 1990 or so. I'm going to try to spend some time on this thing this weekend

    dale: it has 36k on it....pretty low,right?
     
  2. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    If you have worked on newer cars then this will be a "Walk in the park" so to say. They are SO simple & basic, but you need to know your basics before you should even start. It's definitely NOT hard, just time consuming learning. Wish I were closer to give a helping hand & to teach.


    Tom T.
     
  3. Stevie455

    Stevie455 Well-Known Member

    You connect the 2 main wires to the battery (+/-) and the big clamp on the spark plug wire of the 1st cylinder (front right side). Set the advance setting to zero and check the timing mark on the pulley. The engine should run at least without any large issue with a setup at ~4 deg advance at idle.

    If this is fine and the engine still runs bad, you should take out all spark plugs and check the gap (if you got still the original points ignition, not too big). Check again the correct firing order with the plug wires. If this is all fine, you can concentrate your search tomthe carburator side.

    As said: very nice car.. great color combo. Take good care of it (or sell it to me... nooo.. I am joking).
    Good luck,

    Steffen
     
  4. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    You need the Buick manual for your car. look on Ebay. and Rock Auto may have them on CD
     
  5. Buicksky

    Buicksky Gold Level Contributor

    Beautiful car! Good Luck taking care of the family treasure! You are very fortunate.
     
  6. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    Thank you everyone for all the help and kind comments. I'm going to try them this weekend. I will let you guys know how it goes. Thanks again for all the comments!
     
  7. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    So we checked the timing today. Apparently last time she was tuned up they screwed up the timing order. Running much better now. Still stalls out when you put it in gear. ... but I think we are making progress. Any ideas about why it would stall out as soon as I put out in gear?
     
  8. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    Anyone?
     
  9. roadrunnernz

    roadrunnernz Gold Level Contributor

    BEAST. Nice car. I actually like the 4 doors, many dont.
     
  10. roadrunnernz

    roadrunnernz Gold Level Contributor

    My Nailhead does the same when cold and I think I've traced the problem to a worn out (dried out after 8 years sitting in a field) vacuum advance module. Never had time to check/fix before I put the car in storage and flew home.
     
  11. TexasJohn55

    TexasJohn55 Well-Known Member

    Stalls when put in gear:
    Try this: turn each idle mixture screw in to bottom and count the turns, remove both screws and keep seperate as to location. Place an air gun tip into the screw holes and give a couple blasts of air. Put screws back in original location, bottom screws and back out specified number of turns in your shop or carb manual. If you don't have a book, back out 2 1/2 turns each for starters and then adjust for smoothest idle or highest vacuum reading. IDLE MIXTURE OR CIRCUITS IS COMMONLY THE PROBLEM FOR STALLING AT IDLE WHEN DROPPED IN GEAR. It is NOT the only possible cause.
     
  12. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    As a caution, only lightly seat the idle screws. You don't want to tighten, just very lightly SEAT!!!
     
  13. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    Great thanks everyone! I haven't got a chance to try it yet but I will soon
     
  14. TODD'S 67

    TODD'S 67 Time for another Buick!

    36K? Wow, she's brand new! Very nice condition! You could take it to a local shop as a last resort.
     
  15. psubuick

    psubuick Member

    Well she is running well now! Stumbles a little if I goose it from a dead stop, but other than that it is running very nicely. The stalling out when dropping into gear was solved by turning the idle screws out. They are both at 2.5 turns out now. Now I just need some chrome polish and also I need to replace the water pump gasket. That's a task for this weekend.
     
  16. TODD'S 67

    TODD'S 67 Time for another Buick!

    Great! She looks flawless!
     
  17. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    More than likely a water pump is needed. RARELY have I ever seen a gasket leak. Start soaking the 4/1/4" bolts NOW before trying to take them off. Warm up the engine & soak again. Let it cool, soak again & let it warm up. Then just before you try & loosen them hit them HARD & SQUARE with a good size hammer to try & loosen the galvanic corrosion that happens when dissimilar metals are in contact with each other. In this case aluminum cover & steel bolts. I don't care how low the mileage the corrosion happens over time not mileage. Good luck I hope none of them break, or else you will need more than the week-end or maybe have to hire someone to remove broken bolts for you.


    Tom T.
     
  18. snucks

    snucks Well-Known Member

    I replaced my water pump a few weeks back and can confirm the 4.5" bolts are a MAJOR pita to remove. In my case no amount of heating or penetrating oil would help with the last one. I eventually had to hammer on a 12mm and then a 7/16" socket just to get the dang thing off. The only bolts I could find that could fit were some plain ol bolts for putting fences together or some nonsense. I had those bolts in for less than a week before replacing them with some good stainless and one of them had already started corroding like crazy. I kept the bolts in my trunk so I could show my dad. I'll run out to my car in a little bit to take a pic
     
  19. snucks

    snucks Well-Known Member

    here it is. This nasty bolt was installed on a Sunday and I took it out on the following Thursday.
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  20. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Stainless is NOT impervious to corrosion also. ALWAYS use a liberal amount of anti-seize on the threads & prime & paint the shanks.
     

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