1970 GS455 4 speed convertible IDAHO

Discussion in 'Ebay Parts and Cars' started by Roadmaster49, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. vonwolf

    vonwolf Silver Level contributor

    Who ever the seller is he sure does know how to find some rare Muscle Cars in rough shape, check out his other auctions. If I win the lottery he'll be my best Friend.
     
  2. Mike Sobotka

    Mike Sobotka Founders Club Member

    I drove past Fruitland monday am. I don't think I would have checked it out if I would have known about it. This is like the third time in a couple years this car has came up. These are the pics from the original craigslist ad. I have enough junk, don't need this one. :bla: :bla:
     
  3. marxjunk

    marxjunk Well-Known Member

    c'mon...one more wont hurt...
     
  4. Roadmaster49

    Roadmaster49 Well-Known Member

    I've been outbid and won't chase it. Reserve met. I don't often bid on cars like these, even this rare. So I bid with my head on this one. Bid $3200, which is my spare stash for such things right now, added another $1000 for transport.....

    Oh well. Now it will be fun to watch where it ends at and see who is right. Would be nice to know who the winner is - and - if anyone is going to maybe watch it closer then me, see what the money is at about one hour before ending and what it ends at. I always find that fascinating.
     
  5. Roadmaster49

    Roadmaster49 Well-Known Member

    Well it's already past $5000. I think the big collectors are onto this one. I doubt the buyer even goes to pick it up. He will arrange transport through "his guy" that will take it to one of the renowned Buick GS restoration places, drop a huge deposit, then maybe actually see it 2 years from now when it shows up in their heated and air conditioned muscle car heaven collection.
     
  6. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Rare car for sure but damn that is one ambitious project. Is there ONE good panel? Looks like that care has been sitting outside for a long long time. What a waste. What is up with Buick's and ugly color combo's? White - Black - Blue interior I could see but ugghhh... Cars like this always make me wonder where did it all go bad.

    I checked other items but nothing listed. I do see a 70 Olds in front of this car in one pic though.
     
  7. marxjunk

    marxjunk Well-Known Member

    probably an SX did ya see the cut out bumper?
     
  8. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    1970 GTO RAM AIR 455 4 speed (very rare) with documentation, #'s engine,trans,etc...

    1969 Camaro SS 396 - with original engine, date code correct TH400 (auto trans), documentation, yellow w/ looks like white houndstooth interior (rare with documentation)

    He also edited his description, etc.
     
  9. staged70

    staged70 RIP

    I would not be surprised to see it for sale in pristine shape soon but the buyer better check all the numbers if it does:Do No:
     
  10. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    I can't see the bumper in this shot. This car looks to be the fastback roofline like a 442. The SX had a notchback roofline. They were built on the Cutlasss Supreme body style. Little bit of info. Cutout bumpers on 70 and later Oldsmobiles was an indication of a big block car. You could tell if a later 442 had a 350 that way. 1968 - 1970 the cutout bumpers came factory on all 442's. Factory Toronado GT's had cutout bumpers as well. A factory W-31 car would not have had a cutout bumper.

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  11. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    I looked again at his pictures. This could be a Supreme body possibly. Definately a Cutlass Supreme color...

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    Cutlass SX for those not in the know is a 2 barrel 455 cid car. Usually had 2.56 gears. Mine did and would drop 2nd at 80 mph. :Brow:
     
  12. Hawken

    Hawken Hawken

    Actually, I believe a much wider range of 455's was available on the SX up to and including the std. 442 model's 455 4bbl engine (and even ram air, etc.). The "turnpike cruiser" option with the 455 2bbl was only one engine available - I'm pretty certain of that.
     
  13. marxjunk

    marxjunk Well-Known Member


    Helen Keller could see its a supreme body..and the cut outs....and the square SX emb on the fender...if it quacks like a duck...


    Whats a supreme color?..ive had a dozen skylarks that color, and 2 fastback Cutlass' that color too..

    Hey Ken,,i havent seen ya around in a while.....and I concour...you could get any 455 option but W-30 in an SX..
     
  14. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    Not directed at you, Mark, but other posters... his number is listed IN THE AUCTION!!! Give him a call. Based on the cars he has/ had for sale (70 GS 455 4 speed ragtop, 70 GTO 455 ram air 4 speed, 1969 Camaro SS 396), one could safely assume the Olds is something special and/or RARE... :)

    Good luck and happy hunting!
     
  15. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Standard motor in an SX was the two barrel 455. You could option a 4 barrel. Turnpike Cruiser option was a 68 thing.

    Excuse my lack of quick notice of the details of a postage stamp size pic. That color is common on the Supreme's more so than a standard Cutlass. Carry on
     
  16. JZRIV

    JZRIV Platinum Level Contributor

    Just think'in......I'm not a Skylark guy but reading all the posts about the poor condition, the assumption is the buyer would restore what you see in pics. Thinking outside the box, it dawned on me today that couldn't a skilled shop simply rebody this car and shortcut all the scary stuff? It would make a really difficult resto suddenly become less difficult. Even if they had to buy a $12-$15k standard convertible for a solid body that would be a drop in bucket to the labor in repairs needed. Or maybe someone has a 70 vert with a solid body in need of resto already sitting in the garage. I don't want this comment to open a discussion about whether its ethical or not as theres been plenty of coverage on that subject. Just saying wouldn't it be easy for someone to do that? Or am I missing something.
     
  17. Roadmaster49

    Roadmaster49 Well-Known Member

    Yes, and I have absolutely no problem with that, some might. They have been rebodying classic era cars or totally fabricating bodies - for example, the old Duesenbergs, Packards from the 30's. A collector-restorer will buy a perfectly good closed car and hand it over to a specialist and 18 months later, it's a long wheelbase convertible-roadster and is accepted at Pebble Beach Concours.

    It shouldn't be any different for this car. If someone has a sound 1970 Skylark convertible, then that body is the same as this one. What's better, welding in all new repop panels and custom fabricated ones to keep it "authentic" or doing what you suggest. To me, no difference exists.
     
  18. Doo Wop

    Doo Wop Where were you in '62?

    It's illegal to swap a VIN from one body to another.
     
  19. Roadmaster49

    Roadmaster49 Well-Known Member

    That's not what it is and that's not the intent of the law. Using your logic, which you are entitled to, how do you explain the several hundred/thousands of 57 Chevy, Camaro, Mustang, Chevelle bodies be manufactured each year and placed on original chassis?

    Or Street Rods?

    In this case you are replacing a fully worn part with a better "part". The Skylark offering the body gets a salvage title and is scraped or parted. The higher value GS retains it's provenance by way of build sheet or other documentation.
     
  20. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I agree...
    I dont see it as moving the VIN to another body, I see moving a new body to this Car.

    If you were replacing the whole rusted out cowl/dash with a repro piece, would you think it was not OK to move the VIN?
     

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