67 Riviera 430 Build

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by johnriv67, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Traction in first gear is difficult if not impossible to get when the converter hits. It didn't do this before.
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Then use low stall. Ease into it and then slowly floor it. See where it shifts 1-2. Then get out on the highway. At a steady 50 MPH, floor it. It will downshift to second. Stay in it until it shifts and see where the 2-3 is. Yes, I'd want it to shift 1-2 and 2-3 at 5500. Do you have an accurate tachometer?
     
  3. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Ok I will do that. 2-3 comes on at about 85 and also about at 5000, but that's getting into Johnny law territory, so I'm not sure what to do. Yes I have an accurate tach
     
  4. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I would leave it shifting at 5000 1-2 then shift 2-3 manually at 5 or 5500. That way you have a choice....
    Also, you can flog it more without beating on it as much.....shifting at 5000
     
  5. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I think I'll leave it alone for now then. If it becomes necessary then I'll modify it.
     
  6. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Be sure kickdown works...it affects where and how hard it shifts. Usually will shift 2-300 rpm higher at full throttle if it is hooked up...also a bit firmer.

    On my 70 Stg 1 it would shift at like 5200 1-2 without and 5500 with and only break the tires loose on the 1-2 if kickdown was working.
     
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  7. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Maybe we need a new rule:D

    Also, took it out today for the last time for a little while. I was able to get the 1-2 at 4300. I almost don't believe that, but I want to try again. The kickdown is not working, so I've got to figure out why, cause it was before and I know it shifts low if kickdown isn't working.

    Edit: I have old pictures and I'll put the hot 12v wire on the right connector this time o_O
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2019
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    John, the same throttle switch that controls the SP controls the kick down. Yours is missing.:D
     
  9. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I sorta hot wired it before, should work now too IMG_6217.JPG

    Follow the orange wire
     
  10. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    John
    That is all sorts of wrong.. Give me few minutes I'll go out and snap a few pics
     
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  11. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Please haha, I need something to do tonight.
     
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  12. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

  13. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    The Two wire on the left go to the switch on your linkage knuckle. Torque converter hi speed low speed idle..
    the Three Wires on left.
    Top 12volts ignition on/off
    center Kick down Passing
    bottom TC switch pitch
     
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  14. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I am missing parts though, mine will never look like that and work.
     
  15. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

  16. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

  17. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Well that kind sucks..

    Well I don't see why I won't work without the 2 wires on the left. you just don't get idle stall

    Just use the 3 on the right.. Use a light stick for testing. at about 50% throttle S/P kicks,,,, WOT passing gear kick down.
     
  18. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Forgot to add that I fixed the kickdown, its almost imperceptible with the stall as high as it is. But of course I'll test it in low stall once again.
     
  19. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    It is possible to wire the brake light switch to activate the SP and brake lights.

    There are several microswitch kits you can buy for the throttle linkage, like used for NOS and such.

    Both should be easy, and under $100.
     
  20. DauntlessSB92

    DauntlessSB92 Addicted to Buick

    Just finished reading through this whole thread. Good stuff! I was about the same age when I got into the Buick game. My 72 Skylark was my only car and I drove it everywhere. I upsets me how much more I got done while I was in college making no money versus now.



    I am also running the original SP trans in my 67 GS and guarantee I'll be looking back on these posts as I try to sort it all out.
     
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