67 skylark, 455 cast frame pads

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by Houndogforever, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    I removed my old PAE cast pads and was hoping to use the TA pads and shift things back a bit to give me a smidgen more clearance.

    The confusion comes in that I am also adding a TH400 trans from the old ST300 one. I know I need to relocate my cross member, but I'm running into the tunnel in various areas.

    Are there clearance issues with the TH400 trans in a 67? IMG_2268.jpg IMG_2269.jpg

    As you can see, one of the pads if further forward than the other, however I think the motor mounts are offset about 3/4" too. The problem is, I can't get the trans far enough back to slide onto the RH mount. Therefore, I am assuming I need to move the RH pad forward a bit.
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    How could there be? The 67 GS400 came with a BA ST-400 Switch Pitch.
     
  3. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    That is exactly what I thought! I guess I need to re-locate the frame pad, AGAIN. Then re-install the block and trans and hopefully get it squared away. At least it is super easy and convenient to R&R frame pads with the full suspension installed. GRRRRRRR

    They didn't change TH400 housings between 67 and 78 did they?
     
  4. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

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    So what is the "proper" location? The #1 location with the 2 slots, or the #2 location with just 3 holes?
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I never had to install the frame pads so I can't help much. Maybe you should leave the pads unbolted to the frame and instead attach them to the motor mounts, then drop the motor and trans in already hooked together. See where the pads "want to be", and go from there. You do have the motor mounts attached to the engine with the correct bolt holes?
     
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  6. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    Well, I was pretty sure of it before you asked the question.
    The problem with leaving them unbolted is that will triple the problems of getting the bolts in at all. I may have to drop the lower control arm if the block was in there.
    I don't, I have to go stare at it some more.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I know it's a lot of work, but I thought you could mark where the holes want to be and then lift the motor out and secure the pads. There are 4 holes on the side of the block that accept the motor mount bolts. Are you sure the motor mounts are attached to the correct bolt holes? I think it is #2 and #4?
     
  8. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    Yeah, I am pretty sure 2 and 4 are the ones they are in.

    I'm going to disconnect the trans, set just the block in there and do some measurments for center and straight. Once I get that, then I will attach trans again so I can establish where my cross member is going to land.
     
  9. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    A fun job to be sure. Crossmember holes and Z bar was all spot on. Even the 3 speed manual driveshaft was perfect with new U joint and a 400T front yoke for the Super T-10

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  10. GS464

    GS464 Hopelessly Addicted

    Larry is right on point. Put the engine and trans together, attach the motor mounts, attach the frame mounts to the motor mounts and slide all of that into place. Once it all sits in and plays nice together, including the transmission cross member, use a yellow crayon or some kind of high visibility marker to mark the outlines of where the mounts need to be, based on where they all fit together. pull the engine/transmission out, bolt in your frame mounts based on your marks and you should be more or less home free.
     
  11. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Larry is right on point. Put the engine and trans together, attach the motor mounts, attach the frame mounts to the motor mounts and slide all of that into place. Once it all sits in and plays nice together, including the transmission cross member, use a yellow crayon or some kind of high visibility marker to mark the outlines of where the mounts need to be, based on where they all fit together. pull the engine/transmission out, bolt in your frame mounts based on your marks and you should be more or less home free.



    Of course. Schedule the manicure for tomorrow
     
  12. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    Well,if I remember right the left side motor mount is pointing wrong,both should be the same,so the left side has to be reversed. I'm almost certain of that.I did it a long time ago on my 64..Bruno.
     

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