71 GS convertible paint question

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by danp76, Jul 5, 2020.

  1. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    I think the bittersweet is "ok," I just think there are much more vibrant options with today's paints with pearls and tri-stage options. Why not make a nice car look even better with more pop? I would be very surprised if a $25,000 car would drop dramatically with a color change. I think it really depends on the buyer, many people want something that is restored well, with nice paint, not everyone cares about everything spot-on original. I know I don't if I was buying another car. I would want documentation with photos, and products that were used for the restoration process.
     
  2. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    For the record I used to be a first class auto painter for over 20 years the last thing you want to get involved in as a tri coat paint job.
     
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  3. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    I don't mind doing tri-stage paint jobs. A bit more time repairing, and creating a let-down panel and color matching, but certainly not bad if you've done the paint job yourself. I make my living by repairing and education on autobody repair. I have a paint booth, many spray guns, welders, etc, etc.
     
  4. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    It's your car paint it whatever color you want.
     
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  5. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    I hear ya Stage 2 Iron, when I get closer, I'll have to make a decision. Honestly just think bittersweet is bland, and want to make the car look better. It's just a car, and ultimately just for fun and enjoyment. If I can choose a color that is more lively, I think it will make the car look better.
     
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  6. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Exactly - You asked for opinions on value.
     
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  7. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    I appreciate all opinions, I will consider all options, I still have a ways to go.
     
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  8. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    Hi Dynaflow, where did you get these numbers from? I'd like to read up on it.
     
  9. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

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  10. danp76

    danp76 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Dynaflow, it looks like Bittersweet is exclusive to 1971, and seems to be the second most popular color on convertibles. So if you had a GS convertible in 71, it's quite likely it was Bittersweet, it appears.
     
  11. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Good info...

     
  12. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...I always try to keep stats in context of actual numbers. In '71, convertibles made up about 10% (902) of GS production (9170). GS only made up about 5% of all Skylarks (just north of 162,000). If you have a GS 455 convertible, only 165 were made. All GS convertibles were built at Flint. You have to let actual numbers sink in, especially in context of survivors, and fact that convertibles don't survive well in general. I keep these numbers in mind whenever the subject of classic car rarity comes up.

    On personal level, rarity was forcefully brought home as I've been trying for 10 years to find destination charge for my Honolulu delivered GS. With no '71 Sloan data and knowing all GS convertibles were from Flint, I researched '72 Flint order data for my (closed in '04) dealer, for numbers and option patterns. Dealer only ordered 2 GS 455 (and 6 Skylark) convertibles for entire year. No wonder I can't find what I'm looking for:(...
     
  13. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    John,
    several years back I purchased a white 72 GS that had been sold new to Hawaii. It had some paperwork but nothing with a price. I remember it was sent to Calf holding facility for shipping to Hawaii. I think I still have a copy of that paperwork somewhere. I remember posting the info I had for someone years ago. Not sure if it would help you but if it is something you could use I could try to find it.

    Nelson


     
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  14. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    I had a 71 SS 454 Chevelle which was "Burnt orange metallic" A.K.A. Bittersweet mist!

    Gorgeous car and color IMHO :)
     
  15. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

  16. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    A great paint job always make the car look good. There were colors I thought I didn't like until I saw it in person...
     
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  17. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz


    That "POPS"
     
  18. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    I had a 71 Skylark in bittersweet mist back in the late 80s painted it with Dupont Lucite lacquer With clearcoat car was gorgeous when I was done with it
     
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  19. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...appreciate offer Nelson. As part of my 10+ year documentation journey, I learned a bit about overseas deliveries. It was a two-step process. First, vehicle was transported (truck/rail, depending on plant) to either Matson or SeaTrain facility in Oakland, CA, depending on which had contract at time. Buick used a "dummy" zone/dealer code for each. Dummy had purchasing dealer's zone, with either 200 ( Matson) or 288 (SeaTrain) for "dealer." Overseas shipper completed second part of trip. Costs were combined as Destination Charge. Never learned why done that way since charges for both parts were known when window sticker created. Assume was for bookkeeping. My dealer, Schuman Carriage, was 79/908, Matson 79/200, and SeaTrain 79/288 (can be seen on Mark's Dealer Code List).

    Only document I know of with combined charges is window sticker, and I've been unable to find a late '71 to Dec '72 (prices same) Schuman example. Thought I had devised a way to reverse engineer Destination Charge from pre-December Sloan '72 Flint records by subtracting base/options from invoice amount, leaving Destination Charge. Tried, with Mike Trom's help, but we were unable to arrive at a believable number. Clearly, there's something I don't understand about dealer invoices. I'm left with needing a window sticker example, and my '72 Sloan data tells me Schuman only ordered 4 pre-December a-bodies from Flint...
     
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  20. charlierogers

    charlierogers GSX stage 1 4 speed #149

    i saw someone mention "atomic orange" if i remember correctly it was only a 2-3 year color 2006-09. on corvettes, that color would look killer on the buick body lines, and has a classy look which fits in with buicks. atomic orange looks great in pics but in person with sun on it is gorgeous! unless you are dealing with a rare model i would not worry much about color change and value as you can see we all have opinions. i cant see spending my hard earned money on new paint and not love the color.
    charlie,,,
     

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