Big car towing

Discussion in 'A boatload of fun' started by 1969RIVI, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Does anybody know what the towing capacity of a 69 Riviera is? I've had no luck finding anything online anywhere.
     
  2. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    Unless it's modified for towing they are all in the 1800-2400 lbs tow range. Unless custom built I've never seen heavier than a Class II hitch for any GM full size Sedan or wagon although a Class I is the most common hitch seen.
     
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  3. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    Really, I would have thought it would have been higher. The big cars are on par with a modern pickup more or less. If you put in a trans cooler would it help? Or is it more involved than that?
     
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  4. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I read that too in another thread on here but nobody specifies exact weights and nothing mentioned for the Riv's.
     
  5. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    Frame construction and thickness is somewhat different between a pickup and a passenger sedan. Maybe some wagons with an extra heavy towing option can pull a little more but not much. You can pull as much as you want with anything but that doesn't mean it was factory rated to do it.
    This is from my 96 Roadmaster owner's manual, your trailer should never weigh more than 2000 lbs gross unless you have the optional 5000 lb. Trailer towing package. But even that is much too heavy. Then they go on to talk about sway control and weight distribution hitches. They end up telling you not to pull anything over 3000 lbs even with the 5000 lb towing option. I doubt any cars from the 60's were set up to tow 3000 lbs except wagons with the heavy duty tow option.
     
  6. gsx455-4ever

    gsx455-4ever Gold Level Contributor

    There is a guy that comes from Central PA to Cecil County MAGNA event every September . Tom Miller ??? Not sure . Drivers a 70 Big Buick , Electra i Believe . towing a 69 Wildcat on a trailer . Said its no big problem when I asked him. I know I have pictures of it but I can't find them at the minute.
     
  7. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    Uhaul wouldn't rent me a car trailer to tow my 67 Electra convertible with my 13 Sierra 1500! They said not heavy enough.
    So either he's pushing his luck big time or he's made mods to do it.
     
  8. Mart

    Mart '71 350 GS, almost stock

    With bumper hitch on my GS, in '78 to '81, I towed a 17' Hydrostream 150hp Merc, 3 times a week to Cass Lk. to slalom ski. Then in '82 bought a 19' Bayliner I/O Volvo (3,000 lbs) and trailered it 102 miles one way every summer weekend to Lk Huron and back to Salmon fish. No trailer brakes either.
    That GS had no problem towing at all with that hitch. It was a hitch off my '70 Caprice Classic that my welder buddy modified to fit the GS. If your Riv has a big blk it should really honk just fine.....
     
  9. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Well-Known Member

    Not to be a wet blanket to your Tow Fest, but be mindful of whatever you have behind you, wants to get in front of you, even if it tries to go though you if your big ol' car comes to a sudden halt. These old cars do not have the "room to stay alive" included as do newer vehicles. (I know, I live in a trunk...)

    And brakes really sucked at hard long stops with a few extra tons pushing from behind.
     
  10. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    You do realize that you were towing way out of class with an overloaded hitch? If you were stopped any trooper in any state would have emptied his ticket book on you.
    Just because you "got away with it" doesn't make it safe or any good for the vehicle in question.
    I'm just saying what I know about vehicle safety. Ya'll wanna push the towing envelope in a 50 yo classic with 4 wheel drum brakes God Bless.
     
  11. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    His name is Rick Martinez,he has a 71 Riviera that he has been using for many years to tow his 70 GS race car .He's a member of our Northeast GS GN chapter,I would say that he's been doing it for more then 20 years,with no problems as far as the car not been able to tow.Bruno.
     
  12. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I want to pick up a small vintage trailer to go on weekend getaways with the family in the summer. Something like a trillium, boler, scamp or a scotty etc. No more than 18' and all of those types of trailers are fairly light and will probably not exceed 2,500lbs loaded. I got a BBB 455, TH400 and all brand new big drums all way around.
     
  13. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I think I will have to fabricate my own hitch that bolts to the frame does anybody have any pics or specs I could use to go by??
     
  14. Mart

    Mart '71 350 GS, almost stock

    Yep, 30 years old and no fear. My welder buddy built frames from scratch for 34 Ford hotrods, etc. He assured me the hitch was over beefy. The brakes, well they were pwr drum and worked very well as the car was only 6 yrs old.
    I did buy a K5 Blazer a year later and a 23' boat.
     
  15. gsx455-4ever

    gsx455-4ever Gold Level Contributor

    That's not the guy I was thinking of Bruno . he has a green Wildcat that he runs at the September MAGNA weekend at Cecil County . I thought he was from Central PA . Maybe someone else will see this and get their memory jogged
     
  16. 69hellcat

    69hellcat Active Member

    My name is Tom Wagner I have used my 1970 Electra for many years now to haul my 18 ft. Econo open trailer and my collection of Wildcats. With the proper hitch [weight distribution],tires , gearing, and aux trans cooler no problems. I keep the trailer brakes [electric] adjusted and maintained and the car brakes in good working order. Loading the car on the trailer to get the correct tongue weight. I did change the rear gear from 2.56 to 3.23. I have used many other buicks to pull my utility trailer and snowmobile trailers for the last 35. years no issues if the hitch is made and installed the right way.I Just picked up a 1996 Roadmaster sedan with the factory tow package rating of 5000lbs. The 1994-1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Was rated at 7000lbs but it had a 3,42 rear instead of the roadies 2.93. So be different You get a lot of comments towing with you old Buick. Tommy Ivo pulled his Twin engine rail all over the country with a 1964 Riv with the dual quads.
     
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  17. gsx455-4ever

    gsx455-4ever Gold Level Contributor

    Tom . I believe you are the person I was talking about. I admired your set-up at the MAGNA event at Cecil County. Sorry I got your name wrong. And was I right ?? You are from Central PA . My CRS affliction stumbles me sometimes " Can't Remember Shi! " Thanks for responding
     
  18. gsx455-4ever

    gsx455-4ever Gold Level Contributor

    I've flat towed a 49 Dodge from Philly to Bangor Maine about 600 miles with a tow bar behind my 69 Electra . Also a 67 Caddy from Cape May NJ to Philly about 100 miles. You just have to be aware of what your doing . If your one of the Driving and Texting generation you won't be able to do it .
     
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  19. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Tom and gsx455-4ever do you guys have any pics of your hitch by chance? I've come to the realization that I'll have better luck finding a unicorn for my daughter than finding a hitch for my 69 Riv. I will just have to fabricate it myself but have nothing to go from? Any help would be appreciated!
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2019
  20. 69hellcat

    69hellcat Active Member

    Yes Iam the person. Just not buying into the truck thing. I had a few new pick-ups issued to me for work the last was a Ford f250 super duty 4 wheel drive 6,4 power stroke very capable truck towed 8,000 with ease. Not a truck guy to expensive to much money to maintain tires fuel system ect. I would rather spend my money on Buick cars and parts.
     
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