Brown stuff in radiator

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Gary lyles, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. Gary lyles

    Gary lyles Well-Known Member

    I am installing an efi system on my recently rebuilt 350 and I went to change the thermostat and noticed some brown stuff on I t. It’s all in the radiator also but doesn’t seem to really be affecting the cooling. It’s a new motor and radiator what could be causing it?
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Post a picture.
     
  3. rtv72

    rtv72 Founders Club Member

    If you have an Auto Trans the cooler maybe the issue in the Radiator. That would be the best issue.
     
  4. Dr. Roger

    Dr. Roger Stock enthusiast

    Could be stop leak (like Bar's Leak) that was in the old heater core ... just a thought.
     
  5. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Rust seems to accumulate there. Just wipes off?
     
  6. BadBrad

    BadBrad Got 4-speed?

    I found chocolate mousse in a radiator once; and a corresponding amount of oil missing from the crankcase.
     
  7. Gary lyles

    Gary lyles Well-Known Member

    This is just on the radiator cap, it wipes of easily. I just don’t want to drive it again till I have it fixed
     

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  8. Gary lyles

    Gary lyles Well-Known Member

    It wipes off very easy but is in the radiator and was building up around the thermostat when I changed it
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  10. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    I would flush rad, blk & heater core, replace anti and see if it remains clear of gunk. That cap isn't orig. When system is clean it should look like this.
     

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  11. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Platinum Level Contributor

    Hope there wasn't Dex-Cool in it...
     
  12. Gary lyles

    Gary lyles Well-Known Member

    I took the radiator to a shop to have it completely flushed out and they said it was really bad. Is this something that can happen with cheaper radiators? If I get a new radiator is the one from ta good?
     
  13. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    ^^^It can happen with even the original Harrison. Any new radiator is going to be clean and unclogged. I have been running a Modine since '82, flawlessly.
     
  14. 1987Regal

    1987Regal Well-Known Member

    Realistically you can run any brand that fits. I have a northern radiator which is the same brand as a summit racing radiator had it for a few years problem free. I understand you got a praise TA where you can but I think they're shipping needs to be clarified. The last order the lady told me $10-$12. Got the order and it was $21.xx. not happy if you're going charge for a signature and insurance you need to state that and not let it be a surprise.
     
  15. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Several possibilities.

    1. Rad shop is exaggerating to make themselves look like heroes.
    2. Electrolysis in the cooling system, causing excessive and premature rusting. Check the radiator voltage; fix any poor grounds, maybe add additional grounds to drain excessive voltage.
    3. Buick small-blocks often (or always???) don't have block drains. Were the block and heads properly cleaned when the engine was rebuilt? Core plugs knocked-out so the water jacket gets scrubbed? Crud builds up in the bottom of the water jacket, can re-dissolve in fresh coolant so that the coolant carries rust particles around. They'll lodge anywhere they feel like it--on the thermostat, on the rad cap, etc.
    4. If the block was clean, and the radiator was new, there's always the heater core and the inside of re-used heater or radiator hoses to supply an endless stream of dreck.
    5. As other folks have said...some rebuilders throw a "stop-leak" tablet into the cooling system. Maybe that's what you were seeing.
    6. Most folks don't clean out the radiator overflow tank when flushing a cooling system. Often, they need hot, soapy water, and some sand and loose hardware--small nuts and bolts, washers, etc. Then shake the crap out of the tank. The sand and hardware scrubs the inside of the tank. Flush liberally with clean water to remove all debris and soap/detergent.
     
  16. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    This was mentioned, but, any chance there were "red" and "green" coolant mixed together in the system? When mixed together it will create a brown sludge.

    Troy
     
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  17. Gary lyles

    Gary lyles Well-Known Member

    I’ll check the grounds. The block was cleaned, it also had all new radiator and heater hoses. The over flow tank was never cleaned so I’ll do that now. I think I still might get the ta radiator because the car will get up to 205 in traffic on a hot 100+ degree day. Thanks for the advice
     
  18. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    The overflow tank top snaps off. Careful with the o-ring type rubber seal. Even SOS pad scrubs the crap out real well.
     

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