concealed carry guys..... opinions.... What do you carry every day?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 70skylark350, Nov 24, 2016.

  1. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    If they are just after your "stuff", it's probably cheaper just to help them load it in their car.
     
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  2. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    HAHA, was that the at the bar I "think" was named Water Works at HayDays? :D
     
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  3. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    Hahahahahaha.....no, sir, back then I wasn't "old enough" to frequent the establishments, although guys like Mike VanDam and Joe Russell used to vouch for me. When I really did turn 21 in Conrad, we had to pretend like it was my 25th birthday because I knew all the bar owners and bartenders and had been drinking in their places since I was 16 based on people's word that I was good to go. I didn't want to piss them off and get kicked out forever. This was in Froggy's in Valier, MT after pool league one night......long story, but I didn't piss myself even though I had drank a bottle of Cuervo which they told me afterward about 3/4 of people do. So I had that going for me. Which is nice.
     
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  4. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Guy... are you sure that wasnt at the bar you go to for a "swig" in the Dells?

    Thats the problem with the defense laws. After one shot "if you are in fear of your life" you didnt do your homework and are now in the penalty box for being past the point of fear and NOW in control. Shot #4 puts you inside looking out. One night is too long in the hoosegow;

    "But Ja-Honna, I cant do no 30 years"

    "Well young man, then do what you can..., and quit calling me Ja-Honna".

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  5. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Quiz: FMJ or H-P?? Your entire future depends on the correct answer...
     
  6. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Hollow points...

    Know your target and what's behind it
     
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  7. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    So true. And the CC class covers that. Even with our Castle law, it is illegal to shoot at someone in your house that is just stealing from you.
     
  8. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    In 2011,Governor Corbett of Pennsylvania, added a provision to our Castle law.The new Stand your ground law(which is different from Florida's law) lets you protect yourself if someone threatens you with any type of weapon

    “[It] went through the House and Senate with really huge support,” former Lawrence County District Attorney Matthew Mangino told KDKA political editor Jon Delano. “There were only four senators who opposed it.”

    Under the new law, a person in any lawful place outside his home “has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his ground and use force, including deadly force if . . . (he) believes it is immediately necessary to do so to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping, or sexual intercourse by force or threat.” (18 PA consolidated statutes 505(b)(2.3)).

    Mangino says many prosecutors don’t like this law.

    “We should not authorize lethal force when someone has the ability to get away from that dangerous situation,” he said.

    But it’s the law; although, it’s not the same as Florida’s law.

    What makes Pennsylvania’s “stand your ground” statute different from Florida is that before you can stand your ground — that is, not retreat when retreat is possible — and shoot and kill an assailant because you fear severe bodily injury, your assailant must have a lethal weapon.

    A gun, a knife. Or anything else?

    “If you’re a known boxer and you come at someone with your fists, there’s case law in places that suggest those could be considered lethal weapons,” noted Mangino.
     
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  9. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Georgia subscribes to Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground. Essentially, any place you are, even standing in public, is your ‘castle’, and you have the right to use deadly force without having to first retreat if you feel that ‘a felonious assault is about to made to you or someone you’re defending’. It got a lot of news coverage last year after an incident a few miles from me; of course the usual crowd of social justice warriors were outraged by this case:

    https://www.11alive.com/article/new...oting/85-b939d506-fdb6-4944-b61c-ab6343fe18fd

    Patrick
     
  10. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    I am not going out to intentionally harm people, but I won't be threatened either..I have a better chance of being killed at my work than at home or out and about..
     
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  11. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    So true. And the CC class covers that. Even with our Castle law, it is illegal to shoot at someone in your house that is just stealing from you.

    Hollow points are the law here.Weird. We also dont need a CC for a taser or a 10" knife, but do need one for a night stick under the car seat. Thers also a hundred ins and outs about the Castle laws...BEWARE!!!
     
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  12. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd was quoted as saying, “I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that’s all the ammunition they had.”

    “We don’t choose to shoot people, they choose for us to shoot them. And if you choose for us to shoot at you, we’re gonna shoot at you… a lot,” Sheriff Judd said in a press conference.
     
  13. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    I believe I've told this story on here, perhaps even on this thread, but.......The house I'm living in (for 6 years) used to be, near as I can tell, a "grow house". I've got two freezers in the basement that used to have pad locks on them, and when you open them there is no doubt what used to be in there, even 6 years later. I've also got a lot of hooks in the rafters of my basement where lights used to hang, and have gotten a mystery shipment from a fake return address in Minnesota that turned out to be an ounce of George Washington's finest sent through the mail (not that I condone such things, but believe me when I say it was good shiz).....Anyway, long story short: One summer night while I'm babysitting my buddy's 110 lb. Doberman, Elvis, I'm sleeping away and am woken up by Elvis growling at my bathroom door. I tell him to shut up. He does for a second but then starts to growling again. After the 3rd time I figure I better investigate, so I grab the .44 and head down the hall in my underroos. Well, I hear some noise in the bathroom, and I've got Elvis standing next to me ready to rock and roll. I stand back, and kick my door open with the gun drawn ready for whatever the hell is on the other side. Some dirt bag had pried my window open and had removed the screen and was trying to come inside and must've scurried off when they heard me and the dog come back to the door. I don't know what would've happened, but I can assure you in the heat of the moment and a real situation, "I shouldn't shoot this bastage because I might go to jail" was not in my thought process. It was "This mofo is going down." It's nice to talk about what we'd do and whatnot, like the time I had a grizzly bear stand up on me, but when reality hits it's a totally different story. The grizzly scared me s***less, and I always thought I'd be brave when face to face, but that was not the case. I also always thought I'd be thinking clearly about ramifications of my actions if someone tried to break into my house like we like to talk about on forums like this. In reality, I was thinking clearly alright: "Kill or be killed". Legal issues be damned. That's reality.
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  14. Andrew Sury

    Andrew Sury Well-Known Member

    I carry this little AR. For perspective, I'm 6'7" and 300 pounds even. 27164158_10213766567912468_1463694719351851453_o.jpg
     
  15. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    Do you hide that down by your nuts?
     
  16. kidsixpack

    kidsixpack Well-Known Member

    My carry guns are M&P shield and recently acquired Sig P365. I really like both. That being said I don’t find the sig actually worth twice what I paid for the shield.
    KID
     
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  17. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Anyone have a cheaper priced place to purchase a Polymer 80% lower kit??? Want it to adapt a model 19 style slide Gen 3.
     
  18. kidsixpack

    kidsixpack Well-Known Member

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  19. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Well,it wont matter at the moment as the Pa Attorney General is dragging the issue back to court saying they need to be issued a number just like any other firearm,then registered.And now,I either have to have one shipped out of state to me or wait until the courts strike his idea down and they can resume selling in Pa..I am a good waiter...For $85 bucks,I can just purchase a stock lower then have my guy with an FFL give the seller my license and he will do my back ground check and registry for a small fee..
     
  20. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Well now..It seems the Attorney General and State Police overstepped their authority about the Polymer 80 issue saying they are a firearm..The courts said otherwise and they were struck down..So, I guess people in Pa are able to purchase them now with no issues..
     
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