Crank and rod clearances for the 455.

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Houndogforever, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    Looking on teamBuick specs page, it says that connecting rod clearance should be .0002-.0023 with end play of .005-.012

    Main bearings say clearance should be .0007-.0018

    Somewhere, somebody told me years ago that what I want to ask the machine shop to hold to is

    Grind and polish crank to achieve .0022 -.0026 rod clearance with bearings.

    Main clearance on cap 1 thru 4 to .0020-.0024, while Cap#5 clearance to.0022- .0026
    Why was this recommendation so high when the specs are so tight?


    I'm assuming this is Diameter tolerance, not radius.
    If I drop my block and crank off at the shop, what should I ask for?
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Buick specs are so tight to keep the hot oil pressure up. If you are building a completely stock engine that will never see more than 5000 RPM, go with the tight specs. Here are my clearances.

    470BearingClearances..jpg
     
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  3. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    It will be a step above a stage1 stock cam, but still under .500 lift. After looking at my cam sheet again, I realized I was mis-remembering that it was .515ish lift.

    Now that I see that, I reckon it will probably be in the 400hp and 475tq range when it is all done. I doubt it will see 5250 more than a couple times in its life, so a 5000 max sounds about right to me. I bought a pre-assembled TA timing cover & oil pump so it will have oil for sure.

    Are those the actual measurements, your engines "blue print" as it were?
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Right out of the engine book Jim provided me with the engine. That is the engine in my signature though, and I could take it to 6300 RPM, but I keep it under 6000.
     
  5. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Jim seems to have a pretty good crank guy...getting harder to come by these days
     
  6. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    Well I just found out the machine shop I was intending to use DOESN'T have a torque plate for a 455. Sigh.

    There is Bearing Service in downtown portland that DOES have a torque plate, but I know nothing of their capabilities.
     
  7. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Ask your machine shop if has worked with the bearing service.. Lots of shops dont have ALL the tools and equipment to handle all jobs.. they work with each other. Can always Ask if they would rent.


    Im my case no shop in my area had a TP for a buick 455. So I just bought one gave it to my machinist. their cheap.. TA does rent but for shipping and rent fee it was only a few more bucks
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2019
  8. B-rock

    B-rock Well-Known Member


    I HAD a couple 455's down at bearing services, The plan was a good rebuild. After hearing some changes that happened after his dad stopped working there and he seemed to want to build it "his way" with "his parts" I decided against using him. He pretty much didnt agree with any of the advise thats given on this forum.
     
  9. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    Well, Eastco, the shop without the TP, says for under 500 HP and under 5500 RPM, he says I don't need to use a TP.
    This is going to be a 450 HP, under 5000RPM, weekend cruiser and tire fryer. It will get less than 4000 miles per year.
    I really don't want to get into a pissin match with my machinist but......
     
  10. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    I call BS. Without plate the block is relaxed.. With plate the block is tightened up... you can actually measure just where the head bolts are in the block..When you start honing the block with plate you can feel the blots in the vibration in the cutter after a about a minute or so the vibes stop.. So if you were to hone the block without the plate it will be round .. Now when you bolt down the head you will be stressing the block and the 4 bolts will appear in the what is now a not round cylinder hole..

    You can get by But... its your motor.
     
  11. B-rock

    B-rock Well-Known Member

    It was bearing services that told me unless you are building a race motor that a torque plate was not needed. "the factory did not use one so why use one now" Not arguing the point just mentioning what is being told out there by engine builders.
     
  12. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    B.S. race motor Ok. Also means they dont have a T.P. for your motor..

    The factory..... Why would they. Their warranty was only 1 year. 12,000 miles back then.. they want your motor to die..
     
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