Firewall Forward Finishes and Markings- Part Deux

I had started a thread a while back concerning finishes for the various underhood components. I believe that thread got whacked by the hacker event.

I went through my original spreadsheet and did many updates based on additional observations of my own car and the input of others here on this board. I thought I'd repost it to get the information up there again. I also have pictures of some of the markings that I'll repost tonight.

There was a lot of great information and pics posted in that original thread. I recall input from Duane, TimR, Jim Lore, and, I think, Brad Conley. If you guys care to add any information, please do. I thought this would be useful to guys (like myself) trying to recreate the factory look.

Note: Don't hold me liable if any of it is wrong! Most of this is from my own observation and from the obersvations of others here on the board. As new information becomes available, it'll be added/changed accordingly.


Item ; Original Finish ; Source ; Recommended Restoration Finish ; Recommended By:
steering box cover ; Cast aluminum ; Muscle Car Enthusiast ; Polish and Clear Matte Finish, Oval Yellow Sticker (.5 x .75) ; Muscle Car Enthusiast
Steering box adjustment screw ; Black Oxide ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Black Oxide kit ; Ken
Steering box adjustment screw jam nut ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
steering box cover bolts (possibly gold cast on 70 box?) ; Black Oxide ; Muscle Car Enthusiast ; Eastwood Black Oxide kit ; Ken
steering box casting ; As Cast ; Ken Observation ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
Steering box domed front cover ; Clear Zinc plating ; Ken Observation ; Cold Glavanizing spray 7585- rustoleum ; Ken
Steering box shaft input flange ; stamped steel ; Ken Observation ; metalic 7277 matte nickel spray- rustoleum ; Ken
pitman arm ; As Cast ; Ken Observation ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Muscle Car Enthusiast
sway bar ; As Cast, Red/Orange paint stripe ; Not Verified ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
center link ; Black Paint (sheen?), Red Spotches on Ends, Yellow in Middle ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Jim Weise
sway bar brackets ; Zinc Silver ; Nicholas Sloop ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
sway bar bracket bolts ; Black Oxide ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Black Oxide kit ; Ken
tie rods ; As Cast ; Muscle Car Enthusiast ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
adjustment sleeves ; Stamped Steel ; Ken Observation ; metalic 7277 matte nickel spray- rustoleum ; Ken
Idler arm ; As Cast ; Muscle Car Enthusiast ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
Idler arm bolts ; Black Oxide ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Black Oxide kit ; Ken
calipers ; As Cast, Black spray on Front ; Duane ; Spray Can Cast Iron, BBQ black overspray ; Ken
caliper bolts ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
brake backing plates ; Clear Zinc plating ; Duane ; Trishield Plating Service ; Jim Weise
brake backing plate bolts ; Clear Zinc plating ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
caliper mounting brackets ; Gold Cad Plating ; Duane ; Trishield Plating Service ; Duane
caliper mounting bracket bolts ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
end links ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
end link nuts ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
end link washers ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
steering shaft rag joint flanges ; As Cast ; Ken Observation ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
rag joint pinch bolts ; Gold Colored Coating ; Jim Lore ; No recommendation ; N/A
rag joint bolts ; Black Oxide ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Black Oxide kit ; Ken
steering shaft ; Black Painted ; Ken Observation ; Rustoleum BBQ Black (For heat resistance)- should be semi, however ; Ken
motor mounts ; Gray Phosphate ; Muscle Car Enthusiast ; Zinc Phosphate 10281Z - Eastwood ; Ken
motor mount bolts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
master cylinder ; As Cast ; Ken Observation ; Cast Coat Iron DE 1651 Duplicolor ; Ken
master cylinder nuts ; Zinc Silver ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
master cylinder cover ; Gold Cad Plating ; Jim Weise ; Trishield Plating Service ; Jim Weise
master cylinder wire ; Zinc Silver ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
booster ; Gold Cad Plating ; Jim Weise ; Trishield Plating Service ; Jim Weise
booster nuts ; Zinc Silver ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
brake line to booster bracket ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
brake line bracket to booster bolt ; Zinc Silver ; Not Verified ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
Brake line clip below booster ; Yellow ; Ken Observation ; No recommendation ; N/A
upper control arm shaft ; Black painted - Sheen? ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Jim Weise
upper control arm shaft end washers ; Zinc Silver ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
upper control arm shaft end nuts ; Zinc Silver ; Ken Observation ; Eastwood Zinc Plating Kit ; Ken
upper control arm shaft knurled bolts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
upper control arms shaft knurled bolt nuts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
lower control arm bolts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; Ken
lower control arm nuts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; Ken
upper ball joint ; Stamped Steel ; Ken Observation ; metalic 7277 matte nickel spray- rustoleum ; N/A
lower ball joint ; Stamped Steel ; Not Verified ; metalic 7277 matte nickel spray- rustoleum ; N/A
lower ball joint nuts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
Front Steering/Suspension Cotter Pins ; Copper Brad Conley ; www.classiccarinteriors.com (Duane) ; Brad Conley
Bump Stop nuts ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
Spindle, forrest green swipe with pink, yellow dab ; As cast ; Duane/Ken Obsevation ; Iron cast coat duplicolor DE 1651, hardware store paint for color ; Muscle Car Enthusiast
Hood bumper threaded rod/nuts cowl ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
Hood bumper threaded rod/nuts core support ; ??? ; Not Verified ; No recommendation ; N/A
Upper Control Arms ; Chassis Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Lower Control Arms ; Chassis Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Radiator Core support ; Satin Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Radiator Core support bolts ; Satin Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Inner Fenders ; Satin Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Battery Tray ; Satin Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Radiator Cover ; Satin Black ; Ken Observation ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Hood Latch ; Gold Cad Plating ; Jim Weise ; Replate ; Jim Weise
proportioning valve ; natural cast 71-2
Splitter valve (1970) natural brass
proportioning/splitter valve bracket ; 1970 Gold Cad Plating ; 71-2 black oxide ; Trishield Plating Service ; Jim Weise
Frame ; Chassis Black ; Duane ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Firewall ; Chassis Black ; Duane ; Two part chassis/underhood paint, mix to desired sheen-Trishield ; Ken
Firewall markings ; Yellow Grease Pen (possibly white for trim tag) ; Duane ; Welders Yellow Pen ; Duane
Core Support Insulator ; Yellow ; Bill (BA) ; No recommendation ; N/A
Core Support Mount ; Black ; Assembly manual ; As received ; Ken
Body Position 1 & 2 Mount- GS ; Violet ; Assembly manual ; No recommendation ; N/A
Body Position 1 & 2 Mount- Less GS ; Black ; Assembly manual ; As received ; Ken
Body Position 1 & 2 Insulator - All ; Yellow ; Assembly manual ; No recommendation ; N/A

 

Ken Thanks for bringing this thread back.... :beer

 

Thanks for the list, Ken. I wonder how much these things changed from year to year and plant to plant. I'll use this list this week to guide my painting the 65 Wildcat front end; lots of it looks the same. Already messed up the brake backing plates ou:



:grin:

 

Your welcome guys. Use it at your own risk as I'm sure plant to plant differences, model to model, and year to year differences are not represented there. The list is primarily for a Flint built GS, in my case a '71.

I'm also hoping that if there's errors or additions some of the guys will chime in.

It's not a restoration, it's an archaeological dig!

 

One thing I discovered was that a tire crayon is what looks like what the factory used. So far,I've tried it on my Stage 1 and had excellent results.

Tire crayons are available in two colors-white and yellow.

 

Thanks Carl for the update.

This brings up a question that I don't think was answered before in another thread- Should the code (43 B on my Limemist Black vinyl top car) behind the voltage regulator be white or yellow? I just did a quick search and I think that thread was blown out too.

On my car it looks white-ish, but I'm not sure if it changed from the heat. The code over the booster is clearly yellow on mine. Anybody want to give a definitive answer?

If I recall from that other thread, "D" above the booster stands for disk brakes; "C" stands for clutch. I recall Duane and Brad stated some additional code letters, some of them rather obscure. Would you guys mind relisting them here?

 

If I recall correctly, "M" for manual drum brakes and nothing (default) for power drum

 

Ken,

You might want to add radiator core support bushing tops as yellow. The driver side one is visible.


Bill

 

Ken


At least on a 70 the steering box cover bolts are not black but a cast gold just like the steering coupling pinch bolts. They have the letter "N" in the top. I have some extra and thay are all the gold color. The bolts that mount the box to the frame are black. I will take a close up and post it .

Of course, a 71 could be different. Before you accept black take a brass tooth brush and clean the top of yours.

 

Ken
The letter "P" stood for power drums.
Duane

 

So, to summarize, over the booster the options are:

P - Power Drum
M - Manual Drum
D - Disc Brakes

An additional letter could be:

C - Clutch

That it?

Bill-

I'll post the bushing colors in the list above. Thanks. :TU:

 

List updated/overhauled. Thanks for all the input. :TU:

 

I could swear that in the big thread on this subject not too long ago that the statement was that there was no letter at all for power drums, because that is what most cars had, and it was kind of an "unless indicated otherwise" situation.
Was I dreaming????

 

Nicholas-

I do remember Brad and Duane going back and forth, I believe, on this issue. My recollection is that Duane had an example of a "M" coded car. I can't remember if he had a pic or not. Maybe one or both will chime in??? o No:

 

Here's the red marking found on either end of the center link:

 

Ken,
The picture I posted was from a non-numbers 70 Stage 1 4-speed car we cut up. It was done before the microfilm was found so there was no proof as to what it actually was. Here is the picture, it clearly shows the "PC"
Duane

 

Here's the middle of the center link. Note the original date code.

 

Thanks Duane! :TU:

That car is very "PC"! LOL

 

Here's a pic that shows what's left of the black paint on the center link. Couldn't tell you what finish it was originally. satin? semi? o No:

You can also see an original cotter pin that was made of copper. Duane sells these. These were used on Flint cars only, I recall Duane telling me.

 

Here's one of the spindles degreased. You can see the slathered on forest green with a yellow dot and a pink dot.