Fuel system with electric pump and stock tank

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Steve S, Oct 20, 2015.

  1. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    The engine I will be running has a billet roller cam with no fuel pump lobe so I will need to come up with an electric only fuel system utilizing a stock tank. Anyone done this? What pump and other parts did you use? Needs to be reliable as it is mostly a street car. Thank You!

    Steve
     
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  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    What kind of horsepower and budget ?

    Aeromotive stealth system with their tank is really nice not exactly cheap tho
     
  3. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    Yes I saw that but it's a grand by the time it's all said and done. Should be around 600 hp, supposedly!
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Next option would be either use the Aeromotive sump box, or fab your own then use a new or existing tank then use either a A1000 or modify a stock sending unit to hold a 255 or 340lph pump then use the appropriate regulator and return line
     
  5. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

  6. Cazbah362

    Cazbah362 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Sean, the Tanksinc kit is low budget bang for the buck. I just did a Tanksinc kit with a 600 or greater pump for my 70 Cuda. Its projected to be between 600/700 HP and I am starting it off with a carburetor. I do plan on using FI down the road so I went with this fuel pressure regulator too: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13301/overview/

    If you just wanted a fuel pump, this is a good pump for the price: http://www.gsl392.com/

    I used the Walbro on a street/strip car with the Aeromotive regulator and a sump. Learning point from this was sump was a pain to have someone weld it on, cost about $250 with sump kit from Summit and welder. Funny thing is the welder installed the sump on the front of the tank not the back, still worked fine, but not ideal.

    Hope this helps

    Charles
     
  7. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the ideas guys! :beers2:
     
  8. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I thought billet was aluminum, is there billet Steele?
     
  9. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    If it was machined from a solid piece of stock, its billet when it comes to metal, not sure if plastic gets the same title or not
     
  10. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    One trick if you use and external pump is to use a check valve between pump and tank. It is next to impossible to run the pumps as low as they need to be. With the check valve the pump is always wet.

    The tanks system is really nice.
     
  11. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Steve, do you have a carb or fuel injection?
     
  12. bigjimmyl

    bigjimmyl Well-Known Member

    X2 on the Tanks Inc stuff, that's what I'm using. I did have a Spectra Premium setup before, a little less money, but it worked well. I switched because I knocked a hole in the tanks after less that a year doing some thing else. I did save the pump and sending unit setup, I looks like it would drop right in a stock tank. let me know if you want it
     
  13. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    Carb
     
  14. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    Won't a good reliable electric fuel pump with a stock tank work with a carb? Why all the high dollar stuff?


    Bob H.
     
  15. 462 GILLEY

    462 GILLEY Well-Known Member

    I have been running a Q-jet on a 455 with a Mallory 140 electric fuel pump making over 550 HP. I welded 1/4 20 bolts to the fuel tank straps and put a bar from strap to strap. This was located behind the dif., plenty of room.
    I have the Fram fuel filter and pump mounted on the strap. I ran -8 to a psi regulator on the inner fender with a -6 return line to the tank. I have run an 11.07 at 125 mph with this set up.

    Mike Gilbert
     
  16. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    I have built two cars now that use the specific year version of this tank. Tank and pump are the same, just the necks and number of vents are different.

    http://www.amazon.com/Spectra-Premi...e=UTF8&qid=1449156261&sr=8-1&keywords=GM34XFI

    Simply mount a return style carb regulator in front of the tank, set it to 8psi, and then use your factory 3/8 fuel line to feed the engine.

    I have done this successfully on 500 and 535 HP cars, with this pump, I would urge you to have both a fuel pressure and O2 feedback gauges in your car.. you should have them anyway, and it would tell you if you need to upgrade the pump.

    Higher volume pumps do fit right in the fuel pump module that comes with this tank, so I am told.

    I strongly advise some type of in-tank fuel pump for a car that will be driven on the streets. Most aftermarket external fuel pumps are not rated for continuous duty.

    JW
     
  17. Steve S

    Steve S Well-Known Member

    Question..Is there anything wrong with mounting the regulator back by the tank thus using a very short return line? Thought I read that it needs to be as close to the carb as possible, but why?? I don't like a lot of "stuff" mounted all over the place under the hood.
     
  18. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Nope, that is how I did it Steve, both times.

    JW
     
  19. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    The reason for having if close to the carb is pressure drop. With it by the tank you probably noticed you had to dial the pressure a little higher.
     

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