I think you think I'm arguing with you. I'm not.......But, I'd check into the fire department thing if I was the OP. It's a 5 minute phone call.
I bet the other guy is right. I'm real familiar with donating cars to the fire department to practice on. It's a great tax write off. However probably the first thing they ask for is paperwork. If not that should. Also i think the fd is only interested in current models too. Maybe if they cut the car up enough the scrap yard would accept it with no title?
In Florida they only care about the cowl area. If they recognize any part of the cowl you need a title, so, that's the only part you need to cut up real small.
As I said......I was a real, actual fireman for 7 years. We accepted donated cars and didn't care what they were. Training a new guy on a car from the 60s is better than not having him handle the tools at all. He still gets to make cuts, and sawzall a windshield and see how it actually works. I've also donated cars to the fire department after I moved and wasn't a fireman anymore. The small ones usually really appreciate it (not all fire departments are like the NYFD like you see on tv.) The last time I donated, they even came and picked up my Jeep Grand Cherokee I sunk in a river and shoved 2 rods through the block.....as I said, 5 minute call might alleviate the man of his trouble, and help a worthy cause. You're probably right, but you might not be. Stranger things have happened I'm sure.
I am dealing with this issue at work. There are an increasing number of states passing legislation to require documentation and a paper trail for the final scrapping of motor vehicles. Our hobby is not the target of these new laws, per se, but rather for nefarious activity involving car theft operations that involve participants in salvage yards "making cars disappear", titling issues (branded titles like 'salvage' and 'rebuilt', VIN swaps and some environmental issues tracking ... a sign of the times. OKLA is on the cusp of a new law addressing this. Even if you are in a state where there is some law addressing this activity, you still need to read the fine print because some laws have exemptions for age of vehicle, etc. As a side note and question, I am trying to remember what year the US DOT required "secret" and hidden partial VIN stampings in various parts and places in vehicles? I am pretty sure it was sometime in the '60's. Does anyone know?
Not too long ago (when scrap was high) Atlanta had a rash of ‘junkish’ cars stolen and scrapped. I know older stuff can be sold on a handwritten bill of sale with no hassle. I think the thieves were faking them and snatching cars from yards and such while the owners were gone and scrapping them before they were reported stolen. Georgia places a lot of the burden on owners not to lose their stuff; possession equals ownership unless someone had reported it stolen. Patrick
Last vehicle I scrapped was rolled over and the previous owner cut the roof completely off at the bottom of the pillars. I drove it a few miles to my house, stripped it of all usable parts, cut it into pieces I could move myself and brought to a scrap place. I got more for the old radiator than the entire steel body.
I drove by a nice looking skylark with good fenders that sat at a scrap metal place for a long time. The scrap metal place would not sell me parts, and would not touch the car until the owner provided a title or necessary paperwork. One day it was gone. There has been a big crackdown on the scrap metal places around here. Surely they wonder.. When you pull up with several new HVAC units? Or a manhole cover?
When I lived in Massachusetts, legally you needed a title to scrap a motor vehicle, but there were plenty of people who would take them for scrap without one. It was not a big deal to get rid of an untitled car.
And if all else fails............. https://images.search.yahoo.com/ima...skafre&.crumb=mYeS5Nidcs0&fr=ipad&fr2=piv-web
