Install fuel filter before the fuel pump

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by rkammer, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    While going through my fuel system I'm installing a new 1/2 inch sender in the tank without a fuel sock. So, I want to install a pre-filter in the line before the fuel pump which is a stock stage 1 pump. To start with I'm retaining the factory 3/8 fuel lines in the frame. It's been suggested (by Larry the Wizard) that I install the billet fuel filter in place of the rubber section underneath the driver's door but, it may not fit in place of the rubber section. (The billet filter I'm using is about 5 inches long including the hose barbs) So, I'm asking if anyone has tapped a filter in back by the gas tank or, maybe up on the frame next to the fuel pump? If so, pics would be nice.
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yea I actually have put a few of the WIX metal canister there right out of the tank
     
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  3. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Has it worked in a high performance 455, like 450+ HP? Got a WIX part number?
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  5. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    That would do it. I've got the RobbMC short billet filter coming in along with the 1/2 in. sender so, I'll see if it will fit under the driver's door. If not, I'll either use it or the WIX in back near the tank. Thanks, guys.
     
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  6. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

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    1 is supply line from pump
    2 is from regulator to filter
    3 is filter to 3/8 stainless to EFI
    4 is regulator bypass back to tank.
    (high bypass to facilitate deadhead to EFI)

    I run this exact setup for both my 1964 Skylark with 2x4 EFI on nailhead and single EFI on my 1968 Skylark 430.
     
  7. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Nice set-up. A bit overkill for my 455 Quadrajet carb application.
     
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  8. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    LOL.

    "Overkill" was one of my callsigns. :D
     
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  9. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    I run a regular filter off the gas tank in the 67. All stock 340/4.
     
  10. Rocketscientis

    Rocketscientis Well-Known Member

    Or...dont know what genius first said
    "I think we should cut this pressurized line with flared fittings at both ends right in between carburetor and fuel pump overtop the exhaust then let's only use two teeny tiny little hose clamps"
    no no no keep that fire extinguisher away from me I will never need one
     
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  11. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Well, perhaps your sarcasm refers to my post where I cut 5 inches out of the fuel line to install a tap for a fuel pressure gauge. I suggest that your concern is less than valid and here's why..................First of all that section doesn't even come close to going "overtop of the exhaust". It's actually further away from my stock exhaust manifold than the two rubber fuel lines that go into the fuel pump from the factory. In addition those two stock fuel lines are in "direct line of sight" to the manifold whereas the fuel line I cut that runs next to the timing cover is not even in sight of the manifold. As for the hardware I used, the rubber line is a high quality emission/fuel hose and the two hose barbs are secured with fuel injection quality clamps. (Not tiny little hose clamps). Also, the pressurized fuel line will never see pressure past about 8 psi.

    So I suggest that, although you certainly have the right to your opinion, your concern is without merit.
     
  12. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Me, too.

    How far does fuel spray when pressurized to 8 psi? And then the hot fuel vapor is blown around by the rad fan.

    He's completely correct. The rubber hoses at the pump have essentially no pressure in them--one is actually a suction hose. Air leaks in, fuel doesn't spray out. The other is a vapor return, restricted by an orifice in the pump, and simply draining back to the tank.

    Hose on the pressure side of the fuel pump needs to be considered very carefully, eliminated if possible, otherwise minimized and inspected regularly.
     
  13. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Of course.
     
  14. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I use one of RobbMc's billet fuel filters under the driver's door on my 350 GS, it was recommended along with their 1/2" pick-up, fuel line and their pump for the 350
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  15. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    My RobbMC billet filter is also installed under the driver's door in a similar way.
     
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  16. Rocketscientis

    Rocketscientis Well-Known Member

    Allow me to reittreate
    Im not sure who th FIRST GENIUS WAS....
    However any following ones are redily recognize
    I believe you have this as well in hand as I do my ABC extinguisher & ask th sensative types to stand back & hold your skirt down & parinoid type should be reashured that its not all about you day & wish to thank all for illuminatin th fire hazzard & lack of extinguishers in perportion to premium....topic...
     
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  17. 70 GMuscle

    70 GMuscle Plan B

    Same system on my 464.
     
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