Introduction: Grandma's Apollo

Discussion in 'The "X" bodies' started by ElainesApollo, Feb 6, 2018.

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Keep vinyl top or delete?

  1. Keep it, it's factory!

    61.9%
  2. Shave it, too retro for today!

    38.1%
  1. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Proud Liberal

    Family cars are great to have, looks like it would have been a flashy one in it’s day. Have you found any vintage photo’s of it?
     
  2. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Unfortunately no photos. Most of the photo albums were too far gone when we went through the estate. It definitely was sharp though. Still has the drag bars and true duel exhaust with glass packs from the early 80's. I also cleaned out the interior, (years of colonizing mice), and checked the wiring harnesses and fuse panel, all seem ok.
     
  3. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Considering I have 1-2 volts with the key in start position, I'm leaning towards ignition. Anyone have thoughts, or suggestions, or pointers? Am I on the right track?
     
  4. partsrparts

    partsrparts Silver Level contributor

    It might be your neutral safety switch, try starting it in the neutral position and also you may have to jiggle the shifter a bit. Make sure you set the E brake and block the wheels because it may start in gear. where do you have 1-2 volts in the start position?
     
  5. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    A 70's car that a time capsule from the 80's cool. Keep the vinyl if it's good its a part of the effect. If your going to do a rear see if you can find one from a 76-79 caddy seville. Same 8.5" 10 bolt with a factory disc setup. - Bill
     
  6. Smokey15

    Smokey15 So old that I use AARP bolts.

    See if you are getting 12volts to the starter.
     
  7. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Damn it, I forgot about the neutral safety! I've been wrenching on a 3 on the tree Ford so long, it never occurred to me. Come to think of it, you can shift gears with the key in the lock position. Definitely could be the issue. And 1-2 @ starter.
     
  8. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Well-Known Member

    I voted to lose the vinyl top, but only because it is red. No contrast.

    I would keep it but dye it or replace it with black.
     
  9. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Top is currently gone, deteriorated from years of cats using it as a scratching post. Top was black. I'm leaning on going back with the vinyl, (looks cool, less body work). Wife wants me to shave the top and go with a color change, a metallic copper.
     
  10. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Well-Known Member

    Dude, red w black top is a nice look. Plus no hassling with filling in old holes from vinyl top trim.

    There's also a reason they call it resale red.
     
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  11. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    Black interior black top with a red body it is the early 70's. Looks like you have some rust issues around the back window. It doesn't have to be done pretty just correctly if your covering it with vinyl. - Bill
     
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  12. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    If you look at the two big leads going to the starter, they will both have a piece about 1-2" from the starter lug that looks like a splice - this is a fusable link .. a "safety device" that burns up if the starter locks up and you keep the key cranked.

    They are available at auto parts stores on the HELP rack. This may be your problem
     
  13. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Thanks for all the input. It is a red,black, black car, and I've decided to keep it that way. I may spice up the red a bit with some pearl/metallic, but keep it OG. I'll check the fuseable links and neutral switch and keep y'all informed once I get a chance to dive into it.
     
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  14. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Yes, she has a small amount of rust around the bottom window frame, another reason for replacing the top. Great thing about x bodies. Nova panels will work.
     
  15. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    Keep in mind that vinyl top was an extra cost option not often seen on this model. Most Apollo buyers kept that $35-$50 in their pockets. Then again maybe 1 in 5 of them had an 8 most came with the 6 cylinder. Elaine must be or had been a really cool lady. My wife's best friend inherited a green on green 74 Apollo in 1985 in mint garaged condition with 4200 miles. 6 cyl with a/c, am and a blower rear defogger and that's it. I put an HEI in it for her in 1989. That car was a reliable trouble free driver until it was stolen in 2002.
     
  16. PGSS

    PGSS Well-Known Member

    Loving the story of this car.:) Who added the duels and glass packs? The uncle who might of put the cam in. For him or Grandma to drive:D
    I'm seeing drums up front but thought by 73 all cars or at least GM used disc's?
     
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  17. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Well-Known Member

    I had not noted that it has duals and glass packs. That's pretty funny.
     
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  18. Electra man

    Electra man Older and Slower

    74 was the last year of drums on the older GM designs. The new design full size cars had discs standard since 71, mid sizes since the revamp in 73 and the lower priced cars since 75 as that was when they were redesigned and the federal law took effect.
    BTW there are some killer options for disc conversion on the X bodies as they can use F body kits. - Bill
     
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  19. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    Yeah, the exhaust surprised me as well. I didn't know it until I jacked the car up to replace the cables. I'm guessing my uncle was responsible for it and the traction bars, as well as the C.B.
     
  20. ElainesApollo

    ElainesApollo Member

    So, just reached out to my baby brother, he confirmed that our uncle did say he put a hotter cam in it back in the 80's, but neither of us speak to him, so no idea of the specs on it.
     

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