Locktite on head bolts,yes or No ?

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  1. britt'sStage 1

    britt'sStage 1 A Lone Wolf In D.C.

    A friend of mine (Chevy guy) were discussing whether or not use the "blue" Locktite on cylinder head bolts,as a practice should one(ME) use the Blue Locktite thread locker on new head bolts? Thanks,Jay B.Britt,Jr.
     
  2. RG67BEAST

    RG67BEAST Platinum Level Contributor

    I've had good results using Loctite pst thread sealant on head bolts for both chev and Buick engines. I use the (242) red bottle (it comes out blue) for oil pan bolts so they dont' back off. I don't think you will have a problem with the bolts leaking using the 242. They for sure won't back out but chasing the threads won't be fun.
    Ray
     
  3. RAMKAT2

    RAMKAT2 Randy

    NO! You can use blue locktite in alot of places, but your headbolts are not one of them. Headbolts need to be brought up to torque specs in stages, and in a specific order (see a motor manual), and then re-torqued after the engine has been run for awhile to make sure they are all at the proper torque value. Threadlocker dries around the bolts and will keep you from getting an accurate torque reading on the head bolts.
    Guys from the other side (chevy, ford, mopar, etc) that have head bolts that go into the water jackets have to use thread sealer on the headbolts to keep the water from seeping past the threads into the rest of the engine, but Buicks have blind holes at the headbolts, so thread sealer isn't necessary.
    Later, Randy
     
  4. RG67BEAST

    RG67BEAST Platinum Level Contributor

    Good point Randy if you are going to retorque the bolts after the engines ran. I used the pst in place of moly lube on the buick. Moly lube would be best.
    Ray
     
  5. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    The engine manufacturer is going to specify "some" lube on the threads--generally engine oil but not always.

    If you use a different lube or sealer than what is specified--you will need to adjust the torque applied to the bolts because the thread friction has been altered by the change in schlubba.

    Just be aware of the need to alter the torque values with different goop on the threads.
     
  6. britt'sStage 1

    britt'sStage 1 A Lone Wolf In D.C.

    Thanks to all that commented,yes you are right that I may have to re-torque the head bolts.:TU: Jay B.Britt,Jr.
     
  7. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    I know of no Buick engine builder that uses loctite on head bolts. Buick never did.
     
  8. K0K0

    K0K0 Jamie

    I re-torque them 3 x before i start it up as these are the TA instructions.
    Jamie
     
  9. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Think of how many people have not used locktite and had no issues. Sounds completely unnecessary. :beers2:
     
  10. britt'sStage 1

    britt'sStage 1 A Lone Wolf In D.C.

    Wisdom prevails...:Smarty: Thanks,everyone.Jay B.Britt,Jr.
     

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