I have been trying to lookup some part numbers and have struck out completely. 1 of 8. Got three by using the site search bar, but thought someone might know the method / technique for finding the "Chapter or Section" you need. Any help would be great. Cheers, Mike
Do you know the part? The first digit is the group number as opposed to Chapter. Owning the parts books is essential.
Hello Jim,, Group number sounds perfect. Here are 3 parts I'm trying to identify. 14066235. Clutch Fork 1383166. Elbow, Heat Riser Tube to Air Cleaner 1383166. Filler Neck, Upper Rad. Hose to Intake Manifold I'm also really trying to understand how to use the catalog. Its effective March, 1974 so it should be good for my use. Cheers, Mike
14066235 Clutch fork 73-81 Camaro 73-77 Chevelle + Monte 73-79 Nova 73-84 Chevy + GMC truck maybe more. 1381366 Adapter carb heat pipe 68-69 all Buick V8 You show 2 parts the same number
Ok Frank. What's your secret? Do you have the secret decoder ring? The filler neck should be 1380207. Should I toss the fork? Ok Jim. Do you just have to read through the book to understand how group numbers are established. Cheers, Mike
The more you use the books the more you know the categorization scheme GM used. Just as a example, on the clutch fork search, go to the index and note how anything clutch related is listed in the Group numbers. The studs, linkages etc., are all around group 0.795. Some things are not what you think the name may be. I think clutch yoke = clutch fork, alternator = Delcotron and so forth.
1380207 Water Outlet 1965 300 1966 225-300-340 1967-73 ALL except L6 Mike...there's no decoder ring, I wish there was. For starters, your catalog is too old. GM changed and superseded part #'s constantly. That fork # is a fairly new #, it may be the same as an older part# or 5 other older part #'s. GM printed books that showed what the original number (s) was for dealers. I'm an old guy who has accumulated a lot of those dealer books. I have BOPC, 'vette, parts catalogs and dealer catalogs for many years. I also have old belt, hose, ignition, brake, wiper, etc catalogs...just a LOT of resources on hand. I can also access one GM database. It is a LOT easier if you can give the Group # like Jim said. Also, there are a LOT of people on here who can spot a part just looking at it. Most people on here really don't have the time to run down #'s. It's very time consuming, but I do it sometimes.
Frank, Thank you, I got it. What is the Preservation Award by the way, sounds cool? Thanks again, Mike
I love the old parts catalogs, and the assembly manuals, too. The manufacturers' nomenclature for things does throw a person off, though. Patrick
The Preservation awards are the highest awards given by the Buick (BCA) and Oldsmobile (OCA) Club of America. You need to win first place in the Jr class at a National meet, then you need to win first place in the Senior class at a National meet. The Senior class consists of all first place cars. Then the BCA awards you the Preservation status, meaning they accept that your car is being maintained at a really high level. Preservation cars are typically driven to events like meets, shows, cruises, etc. within reasonable distances. Concours cars are rarely, or never driven. The GSCA gives out the concours awards. They may be better than a National first place car, or not. Any concours first place car would take first place at a BCA meet, because the concours standard is higher. My 442 was a concours car when I finished it about 20 years ago. The OCA is the same deal as the BCA, EXCEPT for one difference. The classes are larger covering 10 years. In the OCA, you need to win first place in the Jr class AND win Best of Class (BOC) out of all the Jr first place winners. Then you need to win first place in the Sr class AND Best of Class against 10 years of all first place Jr cars, of ALL classes. So...at the National meet...my 1969 442 competed against 1960-1970 ALL models of Olds Sr first place winners for BOC for the preservation award. The end result of the National OCA meet is ONE Preservation award in the 1960-70 class each year. I know OCA guys with first place cars who have gone 10 or 15 years to National meets and are still hunting for the preservation award. I went jr and BOC first time out (992 points). I went Sr second time out (998 points) but not BOC. My 3rd time out I got the Preservation (1,000) points, and it was still very tough. My 1967 GS went preservation a lot easier, because there can be multiple awards given each year.
"..there's no decoder ring, I wish there was." Frank, thank you for not giving away the secret........
Frank very cool. My dad does a similar thing with Model T's. The judging is tough and its highly competitive. Do you know of a registry for earlier GS's similar to the GSX registry? Well done, Mike
No, I don't know of a registry for them. It's weird about 68/69's. I was a teen when they came out and there were a LOT of them. Now I rarely see one, but I see a lot of earlier and later ones.
