New member w/'71 GS Stage 1 4spd...my first Buick...

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Barsteel, Mar 28, 2020.

  1. jaystoy

    jaystoy Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the site from Shelton! Sweet 4 speed! Hope to see it in person one day
     
  2. Barsteel

    Barsteel Well-Known Member

    You ever come to cruise nights in Monroe? Also, New England Dry Stripping in Trumbull, right over the Monroe line, has a get together every Friday...
     
  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I had what was left of a 71 Burnished with saddle bucket seat stage one 4speed.
     
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  4. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    Welcome aboard!

    Bob H.
     
  5. 8587GN

    8587GN Well-Known Member

    how many 71 Stage1, 4 speeds were Burnished Cinnamon ? Mine is originally, with a brown top, saddle int. I couldn't do it,I bought the paint when it was ready to shoot, but............ its now blue, with a black int
     
  6. tubecatgs

    tubecatgs Finally a 4 speed......

    Welcome and nice ride. You'll have fun with it.
     
  7. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Greetings from Florida
     
  8. copperheadgs1

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    Your car came with the carb with the Stage 1 part number and not the 4 speed part number. Don’t let anyone tell you different. The only differences is they had different jets and rods. One can be made into the other. I have a perfect example but it is a later date ordered as NOS in 74. It is used. Not sure if I’m ready to part with it. I do have a couple of thermostatic chokes I will sell. They are automatic part numbers. They open at different rates for emissions. I doubt there is much difference. You would need to part with your first born if you even find a manual choke.

    Not being picky on your car but unless someone brings it up to you then you won’t know. The alternator pulley is wrong. Stage 1 used all air conditioning parts even without AC which included the double alternator pulley and other pulleys with extra groove which was not used. Alternator pulley and fan should be silver cad not black. Please trash that blue distributor cap ASAP. It hurts my eyes.
     
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  9. copperheadgs1

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    Choke on far right is nice smooth metal. Really nice shape. Originals were gold zinc with red overspray. $150. Middle unit is more pitted but solid $75. Unit on far left us NOS and not for sale.

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  10. copperheadgs1

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    Most interior parts are listed as dark saddle.
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  11. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    NOS might look familiar? Anyhoot, take a glance at your intake, there maybe the remains of one of the two bolts left in there.
     
  12. copperheadgs1

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    7DABE200-143D-4EB2-8DBD-B60B3AC83098.jpeg This chart shows different jets and metering rods used on correct stage 1 carb and the 4 speed carb. Stage 1 carb in 71 had incredibly rich jets. 2 higher than a 4 speed. You would have a Stage 1 starving fir fuel if you used the manual transmission car meant for smaller valves.
     

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  13. copperheadgs1

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    Correct 71 Stage 1 carb. The MD code is important too. Anyone re stamping carbs may not know that.
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  14. copperheadgs1

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    If you get into the car even deeper here is the emissions decal I went to great expense to have reproduced. Mine is on top. Compare it to your original then to the piece of fiction on the bottom. Mine is high quality polyester too where the other incorrect one is cheap vinyl. I still have a bunch left. I forgot to mention I had a Burnished Cinnamon Stage 1 as well but it was auto.
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  15. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections


    Probably a carry over description from 1970, since we learned there was a saddle and a dark saddle, until the saddle was done away with somewhere around half model year leaving only dark saddle from late 1970 and into 1971.
     
  16. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Brian, 100 percent Dark Saddle description is correct. I gave all kinds of info. I researched this well when I had my 71. 70 is totally different. 70 was totally different shade of Saddle called burnished saddle. I also have yards and yards of the 71 dark saddle material. Both regular and perforated. It’s an exact match to what is in that sample. If anyone is interested in it I will sell it cheap. I was going to have 71 seat covers made by Legendary with it. It’s heavier duty than the stuff they use now. It even has date codes on the back.
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  17. Barsteel

    Barsteel Well-Known Member

    What does the "MD" designate?
     
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  20. Barsteel

    Barsteel Well-Known Member

    No offense taken, that's the kind of thing I'm here to learn. The car isn't perfect by any means, but it's almost all original, and I'd like to get it as close to original as possible.

    If you think the blue distributor cap is bad, you should see the color the engine was painted.
     

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