Oil pressure sending unit

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Chatarina, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    1 Kilogram force per square cm = 14.22 psi, so yes, 64 psi. What happens though, due to wear and internal oil pump clearances, is that when the oil and engine get hot, idle pressure can drop below 7 psi, and that is when the light turns on. I suggest you take the car for a long ride at highway speeds for 15-20 minutes, then stop and check the idle oil pressure.
     
  2. Chatarina

    Chatarina Well-Known Member

    So we can`t relax yet? The mech gauge was borrowed and he needs it back tomorrow. Oil pressure isn`t Buicks bright side?
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No, you can't relax, I wouldn't. Get the engine good and hot and measure the oil pressure at different RPM. The light turns on at around 7 psi. That is not good, but at idle, nothing will be hurt. The pressure should rise as you raise the RPM. The 400-430-455 engines need a minimum of 10-11 psi for every 1000 RPM. The chassis manual says normal hot oil pressure should be 40 psi (2.8 kgf/cm2) at 2400 RPM. If you have 20-25 (1.4-1.75) at 2000 RPM, and 30-35 (2.1-2.46) at 3000, that is OK, but still low. If you want to rev the engine to 5000 RPM, you better have 55-60 psi. (3.8-4.2)
     
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  4. Chatarina

    Chatarina Well-Known Member

    Most common? Change the oil pump?
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The oil pump consists of 2 gears rotating in a pocket that is part of the timing chain cover. One gear is driven by the bottom of the distributor shaft, and that gear drives the other. The clearance between the gear teeth and the sides of the pocket, and the gear faces and the oil pump cover is critical. As the engine heats up, the pocket expands and clearances increase. As oil gets hotter, it's viscosity decreases. It is normal for oil pressure to be high when the engine and oil are cold. It is normal for oil pressure to drop off as the engine and oil get hot. If clearances in the pump get too large, oil bypasses the gears and pressure gets too low. The clearance between the oil pump gear faces and the pump cover is called end clearance. The gear faces actually extend above the timing chain cover gasket surface. The oil pump cover gasket can be used to adjust the end clearance. TA Performance sells a gasket assortment meant for adjusting end clearance.

    http://www.taperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TA_1704

    As the bottom of the pocket wears, the gears sit lower in the pocket. That increases end clearance. If the pocket is excessively worn, then the timing cover must be replaced. The chassis manual shows how to measure for end clearance,

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    Looking at the above picture, the gears should extend between .002 and .006" above the gasket surface. Preferred end clearance is .002" If the above measurement was .004, then using a .006" gasket would give the preferred end clearance.

    TA Performance also sells a booster plate to boost oil pressure. That may also be an option.

    http://www.taperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TA_1510
     
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  6. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

  7. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    CBF44624-0799-42CD-8F34-2DBF195BDC57.jpeg Here’s my el cheapo plastic tube setup.

    The best part of taking this picture is finding my old carburetor spring that I lost last year....
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2017
  8. steve covington

    steve covington Well-Known Member

    Matt, You are BRAVE to use plastic, even inside the split loom. I would change that immediately to copper tubing or braided line.
    CORRECTION: Actually, I would have NEVER installed the plastic tubing...
     
  9. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    Came with the car. Changing seems like a good idea.
     
  10. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    That plastic tube might last forever... MAYBE !!! ws
     
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  11. Chatarina

    Chatarina Well-Known Member

    Today we took out the GS and drove for a couple of hours.Also changed the oil and filter. Seems it was the sender that was broken,no red light on the dash now.Want to thank everybody involved in this case. Chatarina and Christian
     
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