quarter skin replacement

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by Jim Moritz, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    O.K. I'm almost ready to put the new skin on, but when using adhesive on the bottom is the area over the rocker glued or welded? None of the articles on replacement mention this area.
     
  2. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    Does the application of the adhesive call for clamping it down for a certain period of time? If so, that should answer your question for using it in that area...it seems like a spot on the car that isn't amenable to clamping.

    I know Ewood now has a clamping plier that "spreads" instead of "clamps". Or maybe people are using it above the rocker and running some screws in there to hold everything together while the glue dries? Those are ideas off the top of my head, not recommendations as I have never used it.
     
  3. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    I reread the article on George N's site and the rocker area was glued on his. It doesn't say how he clamped it down though.
     
  4. 1967 Big Buick

    1967 Big Buick One day at a time.

    You shouldn't have a problem with glue in this area.
    I would use a piece of box channel long enough to spread across the working area and clamp in the wheelhouse area and in the door jamb area.

    Good luck!
     
  5. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    your not patching to the old panel?
    i have the same question but im still working on floor/trunk
    if you have any pics please post
    i thought they where seam sealed on outside and spot welded inside
     
  6. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    I spot welded them, i did not glue them though, hope there is no big of a problem later on.:spank: they were spot welded and had seam sealer when removed...
     
  7. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    The factory spot welded them on...you shouldn't have any problems.
     
  8. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    Andy, I'm cutting the old quarter about an inch behind the door jam all the way down to the rocker, trying to leave all the original corners as they are a little sharper than the replacements. If you go on George N.'s sight they have a good step by step write up. I've got the new trunk extension on, did some rust patches, still have to install the outer wheelhouse (I think there were about a million spot welds to drill before the old one came out!) I'll try to get some pics up.
     
  9. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    I was checking fit of outer wheelhouse and quarterpanel tonight, the quarter doesn't seem to have enough material on it to go al the way to the trunk extension. I guess I'll have to weld a little on it.Has anyone had this problem?
     
  10. RoadDawg

    RoadDawg Well-Known Member

    I am having this problem on the driver side. This one is a Tabco. The passenger side is from The Parts Place and has plenty of metal to get to the extension.
     
  11. corkgs

    corkgs Well-Known Member

    I am following this thread I am replacing skins also, I need the outer wheelhouse patched or a new one. Can they be glued? and who has them.
     
  12. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    i dont see why they cant be glued, thepartsplace has outer housings 199 ea
    there are some used 4 door ones on ebay ,they are the same
     
  13. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    I didn't even think of gluing the wheelhouse, but I guess you could, you might have to fill some holes from drilling spot welds out though.I was going to post some pics but I couldn't log on to my photobucket account . I'll try again later.
     
  14. 197064buickspec

    197064buickspec 1964 Special Post-455

    I will give food for thought on this topic. Up until 2.5 years ago I worked in a body shop and seen plenty of rusty cars from bad repairs. Old and new cars. I wouldn't glue the entire panel or use glue in a vertical area. But I would only weld the area that you can get to with a self etching primer. If you use 3M panel adhesive them you will be sealing out any moisture in those areas. Welding leaves bare metal area if the area isn't covered it will rust. Why have to do the job twice. I would glue the area by the rocker without a doubt. :beers2:
     
  15. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    that does make sense
    eastwoods rust encapsulator isnt that great either, i used on my bumper brackets and one already has what looks like rust starting and it was in the passenger compartment of my car not even on the car yet
     
  16. 1967 Big Buick

    1967 Big Buick One day at a time.

    197064buickspec is right, Weld only what you can get to after to prevent rust from reoccurring.

    Here is what I would do:

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  17. Dayvd

    Dayvd Well-Known Member

    Would ya'll mind posting some links to read about this? Pictures are always good.

    We've got to replace both rear quarters on our '67 Special and gluing sounds a whoooooooooole lot easier than welding. :pray:
     
  18. Jim Moritz

    Jim Moritz Well-Known Member

    Try this sight good info on quarter replacement htt://www.buickperformance.com/qtr.htm
     
  19. Dayvd

    Dayvd Well-Known Member

    Thanks Jim.

    Thanks to Tom also for posting such a nice page on the net!
     
  20. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    http://www.buickperformance.com/qtr.htm

    You forgot the "P" after htt....lol

    I installed many Tabco qtrs and with the rocker panel seam......I actually formed the metal for a very tight fit and then use my air punch to make about 6-8 holes. You can weld the holes/metal of the new qtr to the rocker panel base by going inside the car and welding from inside. I use 3M Weld-Thru Primer before welding the seam. This way, you duplicate the spot weld "effect" like the factory.

    Since Tom wrote the article, we now have lower rear qtr patch panels, outer wheelhouse and trunk drops....all available from www.shermanparts.com
     

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