Radiator Choice

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    I've read through the posts here & there seems to be various opinions on a handful of radiators.

    My question is does anyone have any opinions on US Radiator? Been researching between the AE161(Champion) & AL005529ANDZ(US Radiator) both aluminum, both two row 1" tubes.

    I know Champions are made in China. US Radiator Merica. People seem to like the Champion radiators but I haven't seen much about US Radiator.

    Opinions guys? Good bad with either brand?


  2. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Hey Kyle I have the AE161 champion rad and I like it alot! I bought it brand new from a company in California and had it shipped to me in Ontario, Canada. I inspected it very thoroughly before I put it in the car. I can say even though it's made in China (I thought it was American) it was very well built, clean welds and really nice finish. It has helped cool my car down tremendously. I hope my feedback helps, best of luck!
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  3. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Gold Level Contributor

    I had my old Modine 3-core re-tanked by a local shop here in San Jose. All the radiators now are made in China or Singapore.
  4. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    wizzard cooling. built when you order, great support,
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  5. 56nailhead

    56nailhead Member

    I put the Desert radiator in my 56 buick with a 425+ motor from US RADIATOR MADE IN THE USA!!! COOL COOL COOL!!!
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD"

  7. 70 GMuscle

    70 GMuscle Plan B

    I have champion. Not really impressed.
    Square tanks need to modify rubber insulators.
    3 rows, 3 small rows. And aluminum.
    Rather 2 large rows.
    Pet cock is mini junk.
    I would do it again and get an America made unit.
    Like listed here I also here Dewitt’s is nice.
  8. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    the 65 olds 442 we just did had a champion 3 row in it. they were very tiny 5/8 tubes, and even if the fall with 160 stat car would run over 200 even with high flow pump. we put the wizard unit in and I have trouble getting to 190.

    we ordered it with the shroud from them, fit was very great and impressed with service and quality
  9. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys. Lots of decent choices out there.

  10. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    I like the DeWitts because they look closer to original unit. I do not like the plain rectangle tanks. I have a aluminum Dons radiator but he is no longer in business.
  11. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Just an update if you do decide to go with a champion rad make sure you order the one that has 1" tubes TWO ROW not the 3 row 5/8" tubes, it makes a huge difference. Larry has mentioned/stressed that in a few "cooling" posts on here that 1" tubes 2 row is a MINIMUM.
  12. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    I have seen that. Both of these are two row 1” tube aluminum. With the Wizard you can upgrade to 1-1/4” tubes.

  13. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    the upgrade from wizard to larger tubes is only 100 I think...but if not pusing 550+ hp I dont think it will be needed
  14. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    The AE161 is on sale from champion right now for $194.98 (reg. $224.98) and the Wizard is $499+$100 for the bigger tubes. That's a Big difference in price where other funds can be allocated elsewhere if you're on a budget. I know the common saying on here is "buy once cry once" which I usually agree with but sometimes the wallet says otherwise lol. Best of luck to you and whatever you decide to do, cheers!
  15. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    not sure you really need the bigger tubes from wizard.

    but a 3 row 5/8" core will not cool as much as a 2 row 1" tube
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    You after function or something that looks snazzy?
  17. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    Not particularly too much concerned with looks. I'm going from a 350 to a 455 & pretty sure that the radiator that is in the car is the original. Works well but technology has advanced quite a bit in 47 years.

    I like to buy American when & if I can. I try to look for quality at a reasonable price. Also not looking to spend a crazy amount of money on a radiator.

  18. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that stock 350 rad will keep that 455 cool enough.
  19. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley Super Moderator Staff Member

    I ended up with a Griffin for my 1985 GMC tilt-rollback with a 455 Stage 1. Old radiator was a 4 row brass/copper. Griffin uses 1.25" tubes that actually have more surface area that the old 4 row. An old fashioned 4 row will not allow the air flow, especially at stop/slow speeds as the air has a tougher time going through the radiator that with the 2 core.

    Not installed yet. Will report when installation complete.
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  20. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    The 350 radiator goes with the motor that's currently in the car. When new motor gets installed, I will be putting in the new radiator.

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