RPM limit

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Swagon, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Swagon

    Swagon Well-Known Member

    What would be the RPM limit or a good shift point a fully balanced(stock crank, rods, and speed pro pistons)? did do the oil mods and running a hyd roller cam.
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Depends on the cam specs, and where it made peak HP.
     
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  3. Swagon

    Swagon Well-Known Member

    never have dyno'd the car. Cam is 231/237 520/525 110lsa, also using the sp3 intake
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I think you could easily go 5700 or so.
     
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  5. Swagon

    Swagon Well-Known Member

    ive been shifting at 6000/6200. wasnt sure if 6500 would be to much or if it would blow up.
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    It all depends on how good the rods are.
     
  7. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    Anything past 6000 and you're starting to spin those rods pretty hard. I wouldn't go much more than 6000 with stock rods assuming they were correctly rebuilt with ARP hardware. Otherwise upgrade to forged rods and swing em till it stops making power.
     
  8. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    With my forged rods and pistons I took mine to 7 grand twice, pulled hard:D
     
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  9. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    rpm limits......hahahahahahaha.
    I just had to.
     
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  10. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Yer funny Johnny. But hey, aintcha runnin a forged crank? Sorta makes a difference.

    Jim
     
  11. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    stock crank. first time out with s/p had .030 hypers and stock rods. but balanced good. 7500 and the 10k b4 I hit the wall.
    still stock crank with 283 forged piston and roush nascar rods w/1.88 bearing. turning 65-7500 with a blower on it.
    engine wise there are no issues other than 'Kentucky windage' tuneing….because I don't care to do it to the nth degree. :D:eek:
     
  12. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Could of swore that you posted the 10K RPM after you installed the nascar rods with the forged sbc 283 pistons.

    The harmonics alone at 10K should of shattered the factory cast iron rods like glass at the opera when the fat lady hits the high note!:eek:
     
  13. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Well how about that? Johnny, what's your rod length? Those 283 pistons could be interesting.

    Jim
     
  14. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    7500 and 10k were with the s/p I made in the Skyhawk chassis car. didn't go to nascar rods until the dragster. 10k scared me. thought that was the end of the 1st 350 build. still have rods and pistons laying around somewhere. the 762 mile(said on box) lentz rods are 6.380. try to find any now. if you went to the piston guys for 283 forged, they say they are special order($1200) and they made how many, buzzmillions, in the day.
    probably just lucky with this engines racing life. if it broke, that would be it for the continuous 350 project and I would fade away into the sunset.:D:D
     
  15. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I don't get that. Why are forged pistons ALWAYS special order? You know they made bunches of them, so why? Sounds like a scam to me.

    Jim
     
  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Its for a Buick V8:rolleyes:
    If you use the pistons in a Chevy V8, they're "in stock" Use the same ones in a Buick V8, "special order":rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Those forged 283 piston are probably 10 bucks a piece for a Chevy V8;)
    "Oh, your using these in a Buick V8? They're 150 bucks each!"o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
     
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  17. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    You probably don't want to go to a 3.875" bore diameter with a sbb 300 that has a factory bore of 3.750" unless the block is thoroughly sonic tested to go +.125" larger!:eek: Not saying it can't, just saying to make sure.:)
     
  18. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    The question is where should you shift ?
    With the port area of stock heads and or Intake Manifolds being the choke point and not so much the Cam I can't see a need for shifting at more then 6000!

    Remember any car regardless of if it makes 220 hp or 2200 hp will accelerate that fastest when the revs are kept in a rpm spread where the most amount of average power is made, and in terms of a motor like in this post that's well less then 5500 rpm!
     
  19. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    He has already been shifting up to 6200 he has enough cam to do it and has the SP3. Mine was dynode to 6400 and made power from 5900 to 6200 with a TA 510 cam. With this SP3 and the 510 cam 6200 would be a piece of cake.

    I would shift his car at 5900, engine is all balanced so it should be able to do it plus he has a roller cam and SP3.
    I don't shift past 6 grand either just to keep the rods safe 6200 max, might be why it has lasted this long (25 years)
     
  20. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Both cams I have used now The TA 510 cam with 565 lift and 255-265 at.050 dur at 110 lsa

    The other cam currently in is a Lunati 502-507 lift and 230-245 dur. at 116 lsa

    Both these cams did not make TQ until the engine got past 4500 both made their numbers at 4900 rpm and both made their HP past 5500 rpm.

    1st one TA 510 cam, 2nd one Lunati cam put out by the GS Extra mag.

    dyno sheet 390 hp copy.jpg Dyno Sht Lunati cam.jpg

    So see these engines with a cam in it does not get going till after 3500 rpm This engine did the same thing when I had the 268 Comp Cam in the engine with ALL stock internals and with that I used to shift at 5500 rpm
     

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