Shopping for a Compressor.

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  1. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    I'm shopping for a Compressor to Paint cars with. I'm looking in the local advertisements. Maybe 3 paint jobs a year, intended use by me just a d.i.y"er..
    My Grandma is old school and says I'm fine with a small hot dog compressor but all on the internet they say to get a 50/60 gallon/ 5hp. I believe my Grandpa is telling me this because he used to Paint with the old paint guns with the cup on the bottom. Anyway what should I be looking at?
    Cast iron/ or not?
    Oil-less?
    Single cylinder or double?

    I have gotten some guys down to 200$ for their compressors..

    These are my choices with my budget.
    1st is a campbell hausfled pictured in the 1st and 4th pic. It has 2 cylinders unknown cfm 7hp. 60 gallons.

    The 2nd is a Husky (but I think CH makes them) 6.5hp.60gallons 11.7cfm @ 40. and 10.3 cfm @ 90. BUT the guy said he's missing the "power box" (the box that covers the connections). 2nd picture.

    The 3rd is a campbell hausfeld in the 3rd picture. The guy says it's a 6.5hp, 60 gallon,210volt. Unknown cfm rating .


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  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    The biggest you can afford , I have an 80 Gallon iron pump Craftsman professional it's the two Stage but the big piston little piston deal not a V twin style, it struggles to run a DA I wouldn't dare try to actual work with it, you want as much CFM as possible

    Check with your local compressor service company lot of times they take the old ones away when they replace them and repair them to resale

    A true two Stage pump will be a Vtwin, a 60gallon tank under that would be fine but 80gal is better obviously
     
  3. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    Thanks bud. that's a good call, I'll give them a ring. How i tell if it's a true two stage from the exterior?
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    TX2118-CAMPBELL-HAUSFELD-15-HP-TWO-STAGE-AIR-COMPRESSOR-PUMP-REPLACEMENT-PART-272099238928.jpg It will have the motorcycle engine looking pump V shaped

    There is also the big/little piston two Stage vertical pump, but they aren't near as efficient unless they are BIG

    Single stage can have multiple cylinders but simply can't move as much CFM,psi and recover as fast
     
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  5. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    I have two single stage compressors in my garage linked together. A CH 6 horse 60 gallon 220v, and a 3.5 horse 20 gallon 115v, 125psi max. Ok for painting, running a DA , short periods. I sandblast with a 2 bag pot and spend alot of time waiting for them to catch up. The bigger the better. Wish I had a 2 stage that pushed 200+ to the regulator. Jim
     
  6. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    This one's free and "working". Is this too much compressor for me? Will it require a higher power outlet voltage?
     
  7. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

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  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Long as it's single phase ID grab it
     
  9. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    3 phase is cheaper and much cheaper motors but you'll need 3phase run to your shop, which can be stupid $$ and require permits and all that nonsense

    Bel-Aire is a really good brand in the compressor world

    The tag on the motor will tell what phase and what not

    It's much better to run it off a starter box and not just the breaker
     
  10. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    Hard saying....looks to be round 6 horses?oil filled 1 piston? If its free and within easy driving distance, go grab it. Should be good nuff to use an HVLP spraygun.
    Jim
     
  11. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    Let's she what the lady says she has not replied back to me. Whats the difference between phase 1/2/3?
     
  12. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Single phase is what powers your house , 3phase is for heavy circuit loads business, schools, plants etc, there is probably 3phase on a pole close by but getting a line run can suck, Single phase electric motors are more expensive, you can buy converter boxes or just change to a Single phase motor
     
  13. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Regardless of what phase ID snatch it up turn the pump as long as it makes a pumping sound its more than likely fine
     
  14. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    Thanks I'm going for it if she contacts me.. how much you think this thing weights
     
  15. 2001ws6

    2001ws6 last of the v8 interceptors

    Do you have a better pic?
     
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    600lbish
     
  17. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    It's sold. It's ok. Thanks for answering my questions, at least now I know the difference between phase 1,2 and 3
     
  18. STAGE2PAT

    STAGE2PAT Well-Known Member

    I recently went from a (Puma ) 5hp single phase 2 stage aluminum 3450 rpm compressor to a (IR) 5 hp single phase 2 stage iron 1725 rpm compressor . The old one would rattle your teeth , extremely annoying loud high speed motor . It was cheap from a home improvement store years ago and not very good could not support the auto body tools . New one is more commercial and is way quieter and powers tools much better . Have not run out of air yet while using it . I used to think 5 hp is 5 hp ... not even close
     
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  19. 12lives

    12lives Engage! - Jean-Luc Picard

    make sure to get a belt drive one - the direct drive's are way too loud!
     
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  20. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

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