Spark plugs on 455 compressed

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Atbb, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    After you get the engine running good, dribble a "urine stream" of water down the primary venturies, going back and forth between them fairly rapidly.

    I use about a gallon of water, and have the engine at fast idle--1200+ rpm.

    This will "steam-clean" the combustion chambers. All the carbon will be gone when you're finished. This works as well as--or better than--petroleum-based "top engine cleaners" and you won't have the neighbors calling the Fire Department because of all the smoke.

    Change oil afterwards, there will be moisture in the oil pan.
     
  2. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    Inconclussive, nothing out of the ordinary really. If you had bent a valve there would be definite marking on piston surface, I say the porcelain broke off causing the gap to close and then you had a grounded plug not sparking so it ran like a turn with only 7 cylinders.......re-plug and burn rubber my friend!
     
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  3. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    And be sure to use AC Delco plugs this time and not Ford spark Plugs.
     
  4. 8ad-f85

    8ad-f85 Well-Known Member

    If you had severe enough detonation to knock the material off the piston tops, you very well could have more damage just out of sight.
    I've seen engines run with much of a piston skirt along with most of the rings sitting in the oil pan run fine at plug change, only to oil foul the plug in a week (from the oil getting past the rings into the chamber).
    If your fouling returns, suspect more damage.
    There's always bearing damage potential with detonation problems.
    Keep an eye out for any oil pressure change from normal.
    I've also dealt with Motorcraft plugs listed as covering several heat ranges in a GM and seen too hot of a plug cause detonation/preignition damage.
     
  5. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Ford hasn't owned Autolite since 1973. You really think those plugs are that old?
    Motorcraft = Ford
    I say the gap closed, distorting the ground electrode, which applied force to the center electrode, which distorted and broke the porcelain.
     
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  6. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Whats these two stripes? It looks like the piston crown is cracked or is this just a shadow illusion?
     

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  7. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    It doesn't matter that Ford hasn't owned Autolite since 1973 . And I don't think those plugs are that old . What I'm saying is Autolite and Motorcraft plugs are designed for Ford vehicles . Champion plugs are designed for Mopar vehicles and AC Delco plugs are designed for GM vehicles . I am referring to vehicles of our cars vintage .
     
  8. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Piston marking showing which direction the piston should be installed. The divot goes forward. Some pistons have a dot impressed into the piston crown. These have the larger "slice" taken out of the edge of the dish rim.

    Oooooo Kay.
     
  9. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Had this happen on a 455 many years before bore scopes ect were invented. Never did find out what caused it but the electrode on 2 of the cylinders would get smooched flat. Gave up on trying to figure it out and just put non foul adapters on it. was my only trans to and from work. ran it that way until I sold it a yr later
     
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  10. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    Sorry Schurkey but I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I was just stating facts I have seen through out my career as a Mechanic . Have a nice day . Oooooo Kay ????
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I don't know if it is the focus or what, but those piston tops look pretty nasty to me. I've seen detonation do some pretty drastic damage to spark plugs. I would look at the ignition timing. One of the most common mistakes made is believing all your advance is in when it isn't.
     
  12. Atbb

    Atbb Well-Known Member

    Larry, what do you mean by "nasty", would you say it`s too rich in gas and that`s why "crusty" because it`s not burnig up correctly? I`ll check on the ignition soon, will let you guys know.

    Thanks for all your input so far, really helpful.

    Jens
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    When an engine operates with detonation, the piston crown can get a sand blasted appearance. I really can't tell from those pictures, maybe someone else can, but with that kind of plug damage, I would be looking at my ignition timing.
     
  14. here is a pic I just took of a stock piston with the Notches

    notched piston.jpg
     
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