TA Aluminum Intake OR ALuminum Heads(this is for real)

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Nothingface5384, Dec 11, 2013.

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Which would you like to see made first for Purchase

  1. AL Heads

    123 vote(s)
    85.4%
  2. AL Single-plane Intake

    21 vote(s)
    14.6%
  1. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    TA is looking into moving forward with one Project, He needs to know which one will have the most deman to actualy buy upon completion
    please vote and post below
     
  2. Drillbit

    Drillbit Gold Level Contributor

    Heads!
     
  3. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Mike,

    Looks like we cross posted. I'll delete my poll.

    Devon

    ---------- Post added at 10:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ----------

    See http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.p...p-Alum-Head-for-the-350&p=2277225#post2277225

    I assume this applies to the 350 Small Block Buick. I haven't built one in a long time, but when I saw the post I was surprised that nobody pounced on this, so here you go!

    I think this is great news.

    In my opinion, be careful what you wish for. A single plane intake on a naturally aspirated engine (no forced induction) may be limited by the original iron cylinder heads, though porting the heads will help.

    Likewise, full potential of aftermarket aluminum heads may be hampered by using a stock iron intake. The TA Dual plane intake is already available and in my experience responds well to porting, but will not give the higher gains that a single plane intake manifold can.

    Realize this is preliminary, so don't expect answers yet about valve sizes, spread bore vs square bore, intake height, etc. I'm thinking this is only a test of the potential market.

    Enough from me.

    Devon
     
  4. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    This is why I Voted Heads
    s/p intake will obviously help, but there will still be limited by the heads..cheaper so they break production cost point and yeild quicker profits.
    AL heads with stock intake or TA/poston Intake is win win...just make sure AL heads flow the same or more then a max port iron head..and have more room for port work out the box
    we could possibly have option for different cylinder combustion design too
    You can find someone to Fab up An s/p intake if you really desired, forum members already have had it done
     
  5. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    I vote for Aluminum heads,that way I won't have to have them made.:TU:



    Derek
     
  6. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I agree. In my opinion, the cylinder heads are the logical choice knowing what TA has done in regards to V6 and V8 development in the last 20+ years.

    That's my input, but I won't vote in the poll because I am not a potential customer at this time.

    My advice is that anyone else who is not a potential customer for SBB aftermarket intake or heads should not vote either. In other words, don't pollute the poll.

    Devon
     
  7. gsla72

    gsla72 Well-Known Member

    Heads, heads, heads. Any ideas on price point or is this too soon to know?
     
  8. ceas350

    ceas350 "THE BURNER"

    Heads
     
  9. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    too soon but we can speculate from price range of current offerings rover heads were the most recently made
     
  10. Drillbit

    Drillbit Gold Level Contributor

    Heads please.
     
  11. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    My 2 cent input is, you can fab an intake a lot easier than a set of heads!
     
  13. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    from somebody who has single plane intakes and more; the BIGGEST improvement right out of the box is a single plane intake.
    the stock manifold SUCKS, period!! if the intake doesn't flow, the heads are useless.

    does anybody out there understand this priniciple?
     
  14. TA Perf

    TA Perf Member

    Thanks for starting this poll. I would like to hear from more than 18 people if possible. Numbers like that really don't build a great case for such an expensive project. My feeling was to do the single plane intake first which would be inline with the SP1 & SP2 intakes. To build the intake with an air gap will increase the price of the product. Also I really feel the intake should have an exhaust cross over. Folks that will street drive it in cooler climates will benefit from that being present. You can block it off to keep things cooler if you chose. I felt that there are more folks that could spend the money an intake verse heads. Some of the sales folks at TA have expressed from feed back from you folks over time that we should do the cylinder head. I wanted to see for my self so this is why this post is in place. If the head is found to have the larger demand I will lean that direction. The single plane will come in time because I want one to for my sons car as well. I will check back in a few days to see how this poll is progressing.
     
  15. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    If an air gap is going to add cost,wouldn't an ex. crossover?

    Besides I would guess that very few people would drive their old Buick up here in the salt belt in the winter. If someone did,they would probably have a stock or TA D/P intake on it. So if you're trying to keep the cost down,then leave out the ex. crossover. Unless it saves $$ because the D/P tooling is being used to make the S/P,then no big deal,go ahead and leave it in if it makes it less expensive.

    Derek
     
  16. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    s/p intake with airgap should be the only way to go if you decide intake
    block off kit you can install and easily remove would be sweet if you plan to drive in different seasons(Fall to NOV) or just install for track
     
  17. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    I think ultimately, we would need both products to achieve the results so many people want out of the 350. Since it's a situation of 'one or the other' at this point in time, I would vote heads.
     
  18. Taulbee2277

    Taulbee2277 Silver Level contributor

    I didn't cast my vote because I don't have the disposable income at the moment. But if there were aluminum heads on the horizon, I would begin saving now.
     
  19. wolfmanizer

    wolfmanizer With a Buick powered Ford

    I vote for heads! I have the TA aluminum intake, the Burton twin turbo kit, and nothing to bolt them to.
    Here's my dream; quench type chambers, 1 point or so higher compression, stock (large) style valves, and
    maybe even Chevy stlye rocker posts. If these features were all in one, I wouldn't hesitate to throw cash down.
     
  20. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    Like Taulbee, I'm not going to vote as Im not a perspective buyer (at least right now), but just a comment as to some perspective I had. If aluminum heads (and lets be honest, a s/p manifold would follow suit Im sure) were available for the sbb when I started turning up the heat on my project, I probably wouldnt have even built my bbb in the first place. My car was a 350 car originally, and honestly I love sbb's. But the lack of goodies like that almost caused me to move to the "dark side" (LS) but in the end I defected to the land of the big block. I wouldnt have done that had these been available. One of my best friends (fellow member here) has stuck with the 350 in his car and I LOVE what he is doing with his drive train, you never see tricked out sbb's at shows. That said, unfortunately Im not really in the market now as my project is too far along to change directions, but if these perspective products do become available, I may just have to find a clean home for that 350 that is on the stand in my shop right now....

    I hope it all works out for the guys that want the parts, and TA to make some profit in the process. It'd be a huge win for us Buick guys all around. We've all heard the drum beating forever that sbb's need some more love, I hope that everybody who thinks so can pay up and make it happen
     

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