The interior colour confusion

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by gnatsum, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Hey everybody,
    So I have been doing some research on the interior colours of the Rivieras. I am a bit confused and I don't seem to be the only one! I have gone to this webiste:
    https://smsautofabrics.com/collections/1971-buick/model-riviera-sport-coupe+trim-654

    and it lists the colour 654 as being a 1971 colour. When selecting 1972, 654 is not available. On my body plate though, my interior is listed as 654 and the year as '72.

    Further, there seems to be some real confusion around the colours 'Sandalwood' and 'Covert'. So this decoding site:
    http://www.tpocr.com/buickbp12.html
    lists 654 as 'Covert', however the sales literature from '72 lists it as Sandalwood. I read through some very useful information on this site:
    http://boattail-riviera-by-buick.co...oqMjI1NjgyMjRlNjA4MzgwZTMyNDk3MDk3YjU4Mjg5OTE

    But I came away thinking - ok, so what's the correct colour? From what I can tell a '72 Riviera should have the 'Covert' colour which is the greenest of the 3 years, as shown here:
    http://boattail-riviera-by-buick.co...oqZDcyMDk5YjkxYzkxZDQzYTYwN2Y5YTlhZjUwMmRhMTE

    But there is not much information about where to get that material or advice on how to proceed with re-trim work. Has anybody had success with this? I read this thread that Rob posted:
    http://v8buick.com/index.php?threads/1972-buick-exterior-colors-brochure.224449/

    which was extremely useful. Rob does not seem to be active on here anymore though.
     
  2. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    Hi Adam, can you post a picture of your body plate?
    And also a picture of your car and interior
     
  3. Steve Craig

    Steve Craig Gold Level Contributor

    These guys are great! My '71 Sandalwood interior was difficult to match. Purchased a quart from their site & had them put into 6 spray cans + ship. Wrong colour arrived but easy dealings.
    After a couple phone calls I sent them the under column cover to match. Next shipment arrived & was perfect. Let them know what parts of the interior you want to repaint as the gloss levels vary for different components.
    Tried their site but the old listings aren't there anymore, at least I don't see them.
    I posted the mix Number - recipe- here a few years ago. Might still find it with a search.
     
  4. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Thanks Steve! Really useful info.
     
  5. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    No worries Keith, here you go. All pictures are before the interior was cleaned. I haven't taken any post cleaning yet but can do.
     

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  6. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    Code 77 = Burnished Bronze (Riviera only). Trim 654 is the Fisher code for Covert (AKA Sandalwood) Roulet Grain and Madrid Grain vinyl bench seat interior. The sales code was 824.
     
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  7. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that info Keith.

    So, as you say - Fisher used a code of 654 but the sales code was 824. It was referred to as Covert/Sandalwood.

    When you say 'Roulet Grain and Madrid Grain', is that a GM thing or a universal term?
     
  8. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    I do not believe the plate should be attached with screws. Thought it was riveted on.
     
  9. priariecanary

    priariecanary Stacey

  10. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    That is correct.

    The interior names would have been GM names but would have been recognized and used my auto upholstery companies to a high degree or at least have cross referenced those names on their product lines. Today samples probably will not use those names though. If you’re a poster or cannot find exact matches you may need to go with SMS for your needs https://smsautofabrics.com/
     
  11. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley Super Moderator Staff Member

    If I'm not mistaken, big cars data tags were screwed on. All 3 of my '72 big cars are.
     
  12. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    I agree Brad, all 3 of my 72’s had screws and that included the 11k mile Electra, also checked with Bob and his 11k mile Electra & 35k mile Centurion are the same
     
  13. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Thanks very much for the feedback guys.

    Stacey, I actually have a copy of the original sales book but did not realise it had detailed info in, so thanks for the prompt.

    Keith, thanks for the link, that is the company I put in my original message. Are those the guys to go to? Will they provide the correct fabric?

    The reason I am asking is because if I end up having to do some reupholstery work to fix the interior, I would rather go with a fabric supplier or facts about the colour.
     
  14. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    They are the standard of the industry, I have used them many times over the years. Keep in mind, if you use new correct color materials they are probably not going to match what is currently in your car. If you’re doing an entire interior that’s not an issue, If you’re replacing the panel here or they are sometimes you’re better off Trying various samples from Regular suppliers. Blending in new material into an old interior can be tricky, a good a poster art will also know to use turn off color thread to match the old thread.
     
  15. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Thanks Keith. I'm sorry though, I don't understand what you mean by 'a good a poster art will also know to use turn off color thread to match the old thread.'
     
  16. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    A good upholsterer will know how to color match the thread they used to match existing off color thread (gotta love text to speech)
     
  17. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Ah got it, ok mate thanks.

    So how about the other elements such as the carpet and dashboard. Were there only certain combinations? So for example if you had the Sandalwood vinyl then the dashboard, carpet and headliner were always a certain colour?
     
  18. My3Buicks

    My3Buicks Buick Guru

    The sandalwood interior would have the darker dash & carpet, you could not choose anything else
     
  19. gnatsum

    gnatsum Well-Known Member

    Ah super Keith, thanks for the confirmation. So that was referred to as Dark Sandalwood for both dash and carpet?
     
  20. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Steve, where have you Been for the last decade???
     

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