timing gear

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by pete g, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The originals had nylon tips that like to break off. I'm sure yours has been replaced. If the gears have no visible wear and you can just change the chain and have it tight, that's all good.
     
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  2. pete g

    pete g Active Member

    hi guys, thanks for the info. I might just go the whole nine yards and change the gears too. I'am sort of a masochist.
     
  3. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    Change the gears also, especially if the cam gear is plastic .
     
  4. pete g

    pete g Active Member

    hi Gerry, yes I think i'll change the gears too. should I coat both sides of the gaskets with sealer, or just one?what should I time the engine at. 6 btdc?
     
  5. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    I think i spread a thin layer of ultra black onone sides of the crank/cam cover gasket to hold it in place on installation of the cover.
    My '72 GS (350) has the idle timing set at 7 btdc. Anything less and it idles like crap.
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  7. pete g

    pete g Active Member

  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Is that the big cap GM HEI? Did you read the linked thread? Adjusting ignition timing is not as simple as setting initial timing. The only time the engine runs at the initial timing is at idle. Step on the gas and the mechanical advance and vacuum advance add timing. You can't rely on the engine sticker or published specs because you changed the distributor.

    I was actually asking Gerry about the 1112109 distributor. It came in the 1972 Buick 350.
     
  9. pete g

    pete g Active Member

    I really don't know. the switch to hei was along time ago. I didn't do the installation of it.
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Doesn't matter. My point is that we can't know what you should set the initial timing at because we don't know the specifications of the distributor you are using. They are all different depending on what year engine they were originally installed in. Distributors are different inside. To do it right, you need to set the total advance.
     
  11. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    Larry - I have the correct distributor installed. If I remember correctly the total timing is 33 or 34*. Works for me. Car does fly but one has to always be aware of police & old motor.
     
  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The reason I asked is because the maximum amount of mechanical advance in that distributor is 16*. If you have your initial at 7*, you could only have 23* of total advance. You aren't counting vacuum advance are you?
     
  13. 70skylark350

    70skylark350 Jesus loves you unconditionally

    I like to check TDC compression stroke by just pulling the driver side valve cover and seeing that both rocker arms on #1 are loose, if one of the rockers is pushing a valve down then you are 180 out. just another way to be sure you are on correct TDC.
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You can also watch the #1 intake valve (2nd from the front). The intake valve CLOSES as the piston is on it's way up the cylinder on the compression stroke. So bumping the starter with the valve cover off, watch the intake valve open, then close, and watch for the balancer mark coming around.
     

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