Wonder Waht This Would Get At Barett Jackson??

Discussion in 'The "Pure" Stockers' started by Paul Vitale, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. Paul Vitale

    Paul Vitale Owner of a XXL SS

  2. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    Just about every Pontiac Parisienne 2+2 would have come with either a 283 or 327 Chev motor. They could also be had with the 396 and I believe a 427 as well. The 6 with that option combo I'm certain is quite rare and unusual.

    Keep in mind that back in those days, lots of Candian full size cars were built with the 6 cyl engine. Maybe we Canucks weren't quite as prosperous as our southern neighbors in those days. :laugh: :laugh:

    A very nice car nevertheless.
     
  3. StriperSS

    StriperSS Well-Known Member

    I have seen 2+2 Pontiacs with 427's in them. Not very common, but would be nice to find one now. I know where there is a 70 2+2 Convertible that was a factory 454 car. The engine is no longer in it, but it's still driving around. It's been 'restored' once, but shows rust and needs a complete.
    Canadian Pontiacs had Chev drivetrains in them until 1969, and in 1970 you could buy both Canadian and US Pontiacs at the dealer. So some cars would have 400's and 455's, and some would have 350's and 454's.
    The Firebirds were all Pontiac powered, and in 69 we finally got the Grand Prix, also Pontiac powered.
    I believe that 69 was the first year the GTO was widely available in Canada too, but I'm not sure exactly. Going on memory, and that ain't the best.
    I started collecting car brochures in 1963 and the US spec. Pontiacs were always in a different brochure, and I never saw them new at a dealership. That goes for GTO's too.
    As a kid growing up, I was always on my bike going to different dealerships to see what they had, and I was drawn to the exciting cars. New car introduction was a time to look forward to. They would paper over the windows and the new models would be hidden in the back until intro day. Lots of hype, but always crowds of people to see the new models.
    I wish I had been into photography back then. It would be neat to see some of those cars as they appeared new.

    Ah well :beer

    John C
     
  4. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you said unusual......because it certainly is not desirable. :laugh:

    This is s perfect example of the difference between rare and desirable.

    I don't think it would bring diddly poo (technical term) at Barret Jackson. :)
     
  5. Canuck

    Canuck Muscle Cars Forever

    Canadian Vs US Pontiacs

    I grew up in Nfld and we had several US Military bases there and as such we saw plenty of cars owned by base personel when they were in St John's on leave or had their cars in for service. The nearest base was Argentia where there were 5000 personel at the peak in the mid 60's. Saw a GTO for the first time in 1965. I believe our dealer sold its first new GTO in 1969,but could have been a 68.
    The military boys left a few cars behind on occasion (as long as the buyer was willing to pay the import duties and taxes). A local DJ had a 63 Bonneville with the 8 lug wheels. That was a rare sight. The Pontiac's stood out as they were the only cars different from any other Canadian car. Although we didn't see Dodge Darts until 1967,prior to that it was just Valiants.
    In the 50's the Chrysler plant in Windsor built Plymonths with Dodge front ends. we "tonge in cheek" called them Plodges.
     
  6. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    It is very easy to verify the orignal options on ANY GM car sold in Canada regardless of where it was made :TU: Just call GM Historical Services ( George Zapora I think ) and for $45.00 Canadian they will give you the info on the car for $5.00 Canadian more they will fax it with in 24 hours and send a hard copy later. :pp For any one looking at a canadian sold car it is the best way to verify what you are buying. It will prove or disprove any claims by the seller and maybe save you a lot of money or make you very happy I have done this to 8 of my 9 Buicks all but 3 were sold in canada and the info is priceless

    Ken

    PS George will usually answer the phone as well!!! A very nice man
     
  7. JR Wills

    JR Wills Well-Known Member

    Must Agree. Saw a NICE Base Camaro go at B-J last year, couldn't believe how cheap compared to other cars, that weren't as Nice. 6 Cyl W/a Glide.
    Car was Beautiful, and completely Correct.
    Played with a Canadian Catalina 2+2, MANY YEARS AGO. 421,4spd, Dark Blue on Dark Blue Convt. W/white top.
    Had a GP style Grill with the Turnsignals that looked like Fog Lamps. NICE RIDE.
    JR
     
  8. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    Played with a Canadian Catalina 2+2, MANY YEARS AGO. 421,4spd, Dark Blue on Dark Blue Convt. W/white top.
    Had a GP style Grill with the Turnsignals that looked like Fog Lamps. NICE RIDE.
    JR[/QUOTE]

    I do not belive they ever made a "Canadian Catlina" the 2+2 was only on the Parisiene and had Chev drive train only you could not order a canadian pontiac with anything but a chev drive train up until 70 or so :TU: Same and the Grand Parisiene unique to canada I may be wrong .... but probaly not :grin:

    Ken
     
  9. JR Wills

    JR Wills Well-Known Member

    Hey Ken.
    I Knew about Canadian "Pontiacs" getting Chevy Running gear, No problems there.
    This car had the Grand Prix Grille, and was a Catalina 2+2 For Sure.
    Car was bought @ Auction in Detroit "so We could Get Home".
    Car came from a Dealer in that area. Those things I remember Clearly, as the Grille.
    I THINK I remember something about the Data Tag, or a sticker on the car stating "Built in Canada" but I can't be sure.
    I Know Catalina had "Basic Grille', and Turnsignals in the Bumper, This was different.
    Car was Auctioned Next Sale Locally.
    JR
     
  10. Canuck

    Canuck Muscle Cars Forever

    Canadian built cars

    The data tag on GM cars built at the Oshawa plant displayed "Built in Canada" Firewalls were painted body color and not semi gloss black as their US counterparts. You will notice this on the featured car. GM Oshawa also built Chevelles Beaumonts and Olds Cutlass. Onother unique feature you will find on a lot of Canadian built A body cars is the Chev rear end regardless of the car line. I had a 69 442,built in Oshawa and it had a Chev 12 bolt. Had to be carefull buying replacement u joints.

    The other standard features on Can built cars are the four studded snow tires factory installed on all cars built between Nov 1 and Mar 15 and the stainless steel loop attached to the drivers door for the 15ft extention cord required for the block heater (Manitoba and Sask cars only) :laugh: :laugh:
     
  11. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    couple of things. i have a friend who owns a 68 pontiac 2+2 convertible with the original 283 engine. he has a 327 vette engine in it & has the 283 on a stand.
    also, pontiac beaumonts were last built for the 1969 model year. a friend of mine, in london ontario, had a 68 gto brand new. i remember it because of the hidden headlights. i would guess he bought it from the local pontiac dealer in london.
    by the way, there is a canadian pontiac registry.
     

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