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  • Pistons for a decent price

    34 17.80%
  • performance cams/valvetrain

    46 24.08%
  • good intake

    64 33.51%
  • Headers

    32 16.75%
  • rings/bearings/gaskets

    15 7.85%
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Thread: Nailhead Parts

  1. #26
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    t/a said they can make a custom forged set for my 401 for $955 with the wrist pins, rings and everything dunno if thats bad or good of a deal but ive bought most of my parts from them.
    Damian
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  2. #27
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    Where you guys finding these cheap (aka inexpensive) pistons at? I checked with some of the sources listed and they either laughed at me or quoted a price 2-3x what is listed in the post.

    In all seriousness, I'm looking for a set of reasonable 30 over 401 pistons, preferably hypereutectic, as I'd have to sell a kidney for the forged ones. If I could find a set for $200 like some of you have, I'd be all over it.

  3. #28
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    Heres a complete set of pistons with rings and rod bearings on ebay for a very cheap buy it now price of 239.00

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...922868801&rd=1

  4. #29
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    Zollner/Hastings piston sets were available on e-bay from Maddog Racing. Zollner recently changed ownership, much of their stock had been sold off at blow-out prices.
    Maddog does presently have alot available....Forged Ross pistons are made to order.....somewhere around $600 a set. Master rebuild kits for a 401 with Sealed Power cast pistons start at $780. With Ross forged pistons, it's $1250. 425 slightly less.
    For one-stop shopping take a look at their e-bay store:
    http://stores.ebay.com/Maddog-Racing...isplayZ2QQtZkm
    It looks like nailhead parts ARE becoming available! Our nailheads seem to be gaining in popularity. 'Bout time, huh?
    BTW, NAPA carries Sealed Power..... Autozone carries Fel-Pro, and I'll bet TA or Carmen Faso will also get you those same parts. They're out there! so just shop around.....and pick your favorite vendor.
    Walt K
    (1)'66 GS Astro Blue, 13.41 et (2)'66 GS Saddle Mist, L76 Q-jet option, 1 of 132 (3)'66 GS Flame Red, Calif car (4)'66 GS Silver Mist, 4 speed (5)'66 Special, Flame Red, 300 (6)'79 Turbo Regal, 14.1 et (7)'65 GS 4 speed 'vert

  5. #30
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    Default Nailhead parts

    Don't leave us out of the mix on nailhead speed parts. Our 6x2 manifold and gasket kits are done as well as finned valley pans. Bellhousings for T5 T6 and the other GM trans. 2x4 and 3x2 manifolds. As well as all the linkage for your other brand multi carb manifolds. Header flanges too!

    www.eelco-usa.com
    Last edited by 4toe; 03-22-2007 at 09:28 PM.

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by nailheadracer
    Don't leave us out of the mix on nailhead speed parts. Our 6x2 manifold and gasket kits are done as well as finned valley pans. Bellhousings for T5 T6 and the other GM trans. is just weeks away.

    www.nwspeedequipment.com
    Hey, is this you Marty? I need to give you a call about my order. I have a question for the group. One of the sites(might be this one) was trying to see the fesablilaty(sp) of getting the Edelbrock manifold remade for a group buy. Does anybody know anything about this. Also, I have the Offy dual quad manifold(have been running it on my 425), but what are your opinions about the Offy vs. Edelbrock?

    Mike

  7. #32
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    All NailHeaders. The production run of Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms is about to begin. I expect to be shipping these by the middle of Nov. sometime. For all those who have not mailed in a deposit for whatever reason, you can still get in on the 1st. run price if you will mail in full payment of $753.00 before production starts, Postal Money Order ONLY. For those who have mailed in deposits of $475.00 the balance is $278.00. This includes shipping & insurance in the US 48 States. After production starts, of course, the price will increase. This has been a LONG time coming & I for one am very excited. I am finally satisfied with all the goals I have set & feel I have acheived the results & performance increase we all have been looking for. These Rockers will not solve all of our beloved Nails ailments, of which there is only one, but is a definete improvement over what has been available in the past. They will bolt on in place of the stock Rockers, using all the same components. They will give an improvement in HP no matter what they are used in even a 264.
    Nows the time to step up to the plate so to say. Get your payments in now. The more that can be made this 1st. run the better it will be to have another run.
    Make PMO out to myself & mail to:

    Tom Telesco
    C/O Classic & MUscle Automotive
    465 Glenbrook Rd.
    Stamford, Ct. 06906-1820

    Any questions my phone at work is:

    203-324-6045

    Thanks to all those that have trusted me with their hard earned $$$$$, some for more than 3 years now. It is finally coming to fruition.


    Tom Telesco
    Tom Telesco
    Classic and Muscle Automotive
    465 Glenbrook Rd
    Stamford, CT 06906-1820
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    Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms - All NailHeads

    "If I can't get it, you don't need it!"

  8. #33
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    Great news Tom!
    I know you worked very hard on the rockers to get the design perfect, with no compromises! Nice work! I suspect (and hope) they will sell well once word gets out....

    A few questions...
    Will these require specific pushrods?
    And does camshaft selection criteria change when using these rockers? ie, would a slightly milder cam be used to compensate for the rockers' higher lift and longer ('under the curve') duration? Which cams do you recommend? ....or will you also be introducing your own line of cams?

    And most importantly, did you get my deposit? ! ( I did clean out my PM box!)

    I can't wait!....
    Walt K
    (1)'66 GS Astro Blue, 13.41 et (2)'66 GS Saddle Mist, L76 Q-jet option, 1 of 132 (3)'66 GS Flame Red, Calif car (4)'66 GS Silver Mist, 4 speed (5)'66 Special, Flame Red, 300 (6)'79 Turbo Regal, 14.1 et (7)'65 GS 4 speed 'vert

  9. #34
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    Walt, My Rocker Arms will bolt-in place of the stockers with no other mods. Valves, pushrods, springs, shafts, stands, etc. etc. etc. all remain the same stock parts. One thing I am checking on getting pricing for is new Rocker Shafts. There are no more available in the U.S. as of about 2 months ago. A rebuilt shaft that has been hard chromed is too hard for stock rockers & seems to wear out the rockers in short order. Sealed Power, who was making new shafts, has no plans to make anymore as of this time or in the near future. So to try & prevent using old shafts or hard chromed rebuilt shafts I am hoping to get a reasonable price on new shafts to supply those who may need some for these new Rocker Arms, or old stockers if nec.
    It will no longer be nec. to try & get as tall a lobe lift on a camshaft as was required in the past to get decent lift from the cam with these Rockers. When you try & get as much lift as you can by going to a taller lobe lift cam you are going way beyond the original design of the stock rocker arms. Not only does this cost extra $$$$ for the cam, you don't get the lift you are looking for anyway because of the original design & also causes many other problems not foreseen until you try & go with a taller lobe lift. With these Rockers you shouldn't need to go any higher than a .350" lobe lift cam to get .600"+ lift at the valve. For example on my slightly worn exhaust cam lobe on my Riv. engine at a .276" camshaft lobe lift I should have had a lift at the valve of .441". In reality, measured at the valve, I only had about .408" lift at the valve. With my Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms I now have a lift of .494" at the valve. Another example is the camshaft in my friend Bob's engine. The lobe lift at the cam is .340" for an "Advertised" lift of .544" with the stock 1.6 aluminum rocker arm. In reality there was only .490" lift. With my Rocker there is now over .600" lift. We got the old heads to flow best around .550" lift, so this relates to me a loss of HP & 1/4 mile performance. It showed on the engine dyno. All other things remaining the same, anytime we added My Rockers there was almost in every instance a 20HP improvement. We specd another cam & got 20 more HP. Added My Rockers & added another 20HP. This is a pretty well modified 401/+.030 motor. My Riv. which for the most part was rebuilt stock back in the early 70's seemed to benefit the most with a HP & torque improvement on the chassis dyno of 26.6HP & 15.1 ft. lbs. of torque increase to the rear wheels. In both cases the HP & torque peaks remained at the same RPM's only higher. So a change from the camshaft you are now using is not nec. Unless of course it is the wrong one to begin with. The Nails act differently than most other engines in the way the cam is made. The Nail WANTS MORE AIR!!!!! & this is one of the ways to help increase the air supply.
    And yes, I did get your in full payment for the Rockers on 9/17/05, including shipping & insurance. I thought I had sent you a private e-mail, but if your box was full you didn't receive the notice. I am trying to keep up with all the demands as best as possible along with all the other things life has to offer.
    Any more questions you or others may have, I'm here, just ask.

    Thanks for your support, & the support of many others,

    Tom Telesco
    Tom Telesco
    Classic and Muscle Automotive
    465 Glenbrook Rd
    Stamford, CT 06906-1820
    Day Phone 203-324-6045 ET
    NailHead Mini-Starters '53-'66
    Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms - All NailHeads

    "If I can't get it, you don't need it!"

  10. #35
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    1)-Bob, on my friends modified engine there was almost always a 20HP improvement on the engine dyno. On my stock Riv. engine there was a 26.6Hp & 15.1 ft. lbs. of torque improvement to the rear wheels.
    2)-Yes
    3)-Just the tips. The engine dyno guy feels it would be a waste of time & money because of the application & also feels that the needles will not last because of the crazy angles associated with the valvetrain setup. Also because you will not a 3/4" of valve lift from the ole "Nail" the rollers will get a set & not roll anyway. Why go for the extra cost if an expert tells you it's a waste?????
    And no they DO NOT look like a T/A rocker.
    Tom Telesco
    Classic and Muscle Automotive
    465 Glenbrook Rd
    Stamford, CT 06906-1820
    Day Phone 203-324-6045 ET
    NailHead Mini-Starters '53-'66
    Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms - All NailHeads

    "If I can't get it, you don't need it!"

  11. #36
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    No Bob, they will only have a Roller Tip. No Rollers on the shafts. And no I did not take offense. Just trying to clarify.
    Tom
    Tom Telesco
    Classic and Muscle Automotive
    465 Glenbrook Rd
    Stamford, CT 06906-1820
    Day Phone 203-324-6045 ET
    NailHead Mini-Starters '53-'66
    Adjustable Roller Tip Rocker Arms - All NailHeads

    "If I can't get it, you don't need it!"

  12. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by telriv
    No Bob, they will only have a Roller Tip. No Rollers on the shafts. And no I did not take offense. Just trying to clarify.
    Tom

    I have seen what those needles can do loose inside a race engine. I am glad you didn't use them.

    Cheryl
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  13. #38
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    Not to change the subject to much, but for those of us interested in a less expensive alternative, has anybody had experience with those Maddog complete engine rebuild kits?
    Current Buy it Now on Ebay is at $829. Is there any better deal/quality around for a complete rebuild kit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
    Also, what is the benefit from spending the almost $500 extra for the forged pistons over the cast? If it's a driver or a show car instead of a racer, does it matter?

    Thanks!
    Brian Clark
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  14. #39
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    Hello,
    For a vehicle that will not see heavy duty use there is really no benefit in specing forged pistons. In short forged pistons offer more strength. Go with cast for your use.
    Jim

  15. #40
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    Default rebuild kit?

    would also like to know what expereince people have had with maddog rebouild kits any ideas of others?
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  16. #41
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    Default Re: Nailhead Parts

    I am desparately searching for a good timing cover from a 62-66 401 or 425 Nailhead engine. Also need a set of motor mounts for the same engine in a 66 Skylark.
    I cannot put my car back together without these parts so if you know anyone who can help, please contact me ASAP.
    Thank You,
    Terry Lucas
    twlucas@cox.net

  17. #42
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    Terry, I have seen several timing covers recently on ebay, check out under parts and accessories/ nailhead.

  18. #43
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    Question Re: Nailhead Parts

    can anyone point me in the right direction? I am restoring a 1964 wildcat convertible and need the moldings.

  19. #44
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    Which Moldings Are You Looking For?

    Bill

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    I want to see someone sell a good Towing Cam for a 264/322 and a decent 4 barrel intake. Headers to fit in the 50s cars with those engines would be great too. I feel like the 264/and 322 are forsaken motors no one wants to make things for them. Mean while how many hundred thousand were made come on....

  21. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by my55buick View Post
    I want to see someone sell a good Towing Cam for a 264/322 and a decent 4 barrel intake. Headers to fit in the 50s cars with those engines would be great too. I feel like the 264/and 322 are forsaken motors no one wants to make things for them. Mean while how many hundred thousand were made come on....
    I have long felt that the 264 was the greatest of the Nailheads. having said that, I must confess that my Buchev pickup is 425 (.30 over) 431 cu. in. Nailhead. I would be ecstatic to swap it for a perfect 264 (plus all parts required to do the swap, plus shipping/pickup).
    John Codman
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    '33,'48, '51, '52, '54, '55 (3), '56, '60 LeSabre 3 sp stick.
    264 powered '53 Mercury
    322 then 264 powered 55 Ford
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    Presently - 431 nailhead powered '82 C-10

  22. #47
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    I just bought mine from EGGE only place i could find .020 over

    ---------- Post added at 05:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:38 PM ----------

    I just bought mine from EGGE only place i could find .020 over

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