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    Default how do you remove a locking gas cap without the key?

    My neighbor just bought a really nice 69 SS 396 El Camino. The guy he bought it from lost the key to the locking gas cap. The seller took a 100 bucks off the price, but the problem remains on how exactly to remove it without the key. I dont think drilling it out is safe. I wouldnt want to create a spark. Anyone deal with something like this before? It looks like an old "Stant" cap if it helps any
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    The best thing to do is use that extra 100 bucks and call a locksmith. Like you said, any other option involves the chance of a spark or getting shavings in the gas tank. A locksmith can make a key or pick it pretty quickly for you.
    Another option is to add an extra 50 to the 100 bucks and buy a new reproduction gas tank!
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    Just use a big screwdriver, They come right off. I have had to do that for my dad a couple of times now. I told him to quit buying them if he can't keep the key with his other keys. He always blames it on his wife.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by carcrazy455
    Just use a big screwdriver, They come right off. I have had to do that for my dad a couple of times now. I told him to quit buying them if he can't keep the key with his other keys. He always blames it on his wife.

    Mike
    Yep - nice big screw driver will do the trick. Dont get caught using a Snap-Off screw driver though
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    I'm thinking your whole story is BS, Jason, and you're just looking to run around the neighborhood at midnight with a gas can and easy access tips to offset the high fuel prices!
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    Tell your neighbor to open the hood, remove the fuel filter and blow into the fuel line just as hard as he can.
    I've always wondered just how many lock/key combos Stant really had. Probably just 1. Who would know?
    I'd go the locksmith route.
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    Another for the big screwdriver theory.

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    We always use a screwdriver at the auction, it never fails. So much for securing your fuel.
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    What technic are you using with the big screwdriver prying the cap off the neck or jambing it into the key slot and busting the lock?

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    Put the screwdriver in the slot and turn it like a key!

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    What he said.
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    I'll let him know what the consensus was- a big MF screwdriver! He can pocket the C note and buy some stuff for his new ride

    Ken- Im too busy scamming old ladies out of their Buicks to be stealing gas!

    So Ive successfully currupted another neighbor. About three years ago, the guy across the street bought a 69 SS396 Chevelle. And yesterday, the guy next door to him just bought this Elky. I guess all those burouts in front of my house worked! Nice car- originally Daytona yellow. From what I understand, an exclusive SS color. Its currently an electric blue color. Has a 70 454 LS-5 with a T-400 and a Currie 9" Ford rear with 3.55s. Its an original California car with zero rust. The floor pans still have yellow overspray. Car is solid as a rock. Its a tough looking truck with that SS hood. Needs a few things. I cant believe all the parts that are available for these cars. Virtually everything you need is a phone call away . I think he stole it at $7500. He's excited as hell. Its his first muscle car/truck. I foresee many a night in his garage drinking beer and tinkering on his Elky
    Jason Cook
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    1969 Riviera GS- my first car
    1970 Stage 1 4 speed Aquamist
    1971 GS 455 11.93@113.36
    1971 Skylark Custom convertible
    1972 GS-350 project car
    1970 Stellar Industries vintage go kart

    When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty

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    That's definitely the kind of neighbors you DON'T want a fence between!!!
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    They always say you cant pick your neighbors. I could'nt of asked for better. The guy across the street is a licensed master electrician who grew up in the same town I did. We even went to the same high school but never met before. John, next door to me is a master carpenter and a welder for the LIRR. John did all the siding, roofing and windows in my house last year. Next to him is Frank who been a plumber since cast iron first came out . and Im the local mechanic. We've got all the bases covered and we all help each other out.
    Jason Cook
    BPG #1675
    "Expert in obsolete technology"

    1968 Riviera GS- some assembly required
    1969 Riviera GS- my first car
    1970 Stage 1 4 speed Aquamist
    1971 GS 455 11.93@113.36
    1971 Skylark Custom convertible
    1972 GS-350 project car
    1970 Stellar Industries vintage go kart

    When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty

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    We got the cap off . I figured it would of put up more of a fight! I never dealt with those caps before. We screwed a dent puller in it and gave it a tap...the tumbler came right out. We then stuck a screwdriver in the hole and twisted. Came right off. Took a total of 36 seconds! Well worth the 100 bucks off on the price.

    Here's a pic of the El Camino when we got it home on Thursday...

    Jason Cook
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    1968 Riviera GS- some assembly required
    1969 Riviera GS- my first car
    1970 Stage 1 4 speed Aquamist
    1971 GS 455 11.93@113.36
    1971 Skylark Custom convertible
    1972 GS-350 project car
    1970 Stellar Industries vintage go kart

    When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty

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    That's a nice looking car (truck?), Jason. Have you shown your neighbor any pics of Duane's X-Camino???
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    Jason,
    Throw a BBB in it, and piss off the Chebbie guys.
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