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    Here is a big block shift fork (left) and small block Buick shift fork (right)
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    This is the plate that is where the steering column goes through the firewall. The manual trans A bodies (Chevelle, GTO, Cutlass/ 442) use the same piece.
    The shiney piece on the right is the reproduced boot retainer. You would have to cut your own hole into that steering column baseplate
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    This is how that repro'ed piece matches up
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    Speedometer cable clips
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350 4-speed
    Speedometer cable clips
    Are these repoped?
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    restored 70 4 speed trans.
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    ID'ing a Muncie/ making sense of date codes. In this pic, I am pointing to the location of the build date code and VIN stamping location. Note it is the passenger side of the trans close to where the tailshaft bolts to the main case.

    2010 update: Pulled the M-21 out of a 69 4 speed and found the VIN stamp on the top pad of the trans. I have attached a pic of the location. Also, I have seen several threads where there was NO VIN STAMP AT ALL!!!!
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    Here is a sample of the date code stamp. This trans is stamped P9S29B
    let's break this down (from http://www.gearzone.net/muncie2.htm)

    P= Muncie Plant
    9= model year = 1969 (found on Muncies from 1967 and up)
    S= month (November) (A= January, T- December)
    29= day of the month
    B= Transmission letter code (found on 1969-1974 Muncies)
    A=M-20 B= M-21 C= M-22

    So, if we had a trans w/ P0A27C= M-22 trans built January 27, 1970
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    Here's one from eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...spagenameZWDVW

    The ad states it is an 'M-21'.... Date # P9D02A
    P= Muncie
    9= 1969
    D= April
    02= second day
    A= M-20......

    BTW- If the #1 is the first number in that VIN stamp, would that mean this trans is from a CHEVY??? Buyer BEWARE!!
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    'So, what if these numbers are filed off?'- You can also use the number stamped on the passenger side of the main housing to get an idea of the year of your trans.
    ***Please note: the ideal way is to pop the side cover off to look at the gears, angle of the gears, etc. This was meant to be a QUICK point of reference ***
    In this pic, the # 3925660 can be seen. This trans would be from a 1968-1970 Muncie (http://www.gearzone.net/muncie2.htm), but it could be any of the three M-20, 21 or 22...
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    Default New Hump Picture - 1969 GS 400

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    Default Pic of Munci code 1970/455 4spd tranny



    This is in the car "P0T09B"------ Pete
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    Is anyone reproing the tach for the consolette or the buick emblem for the tach delete consolette?
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    Eddie- no. You can try and find a 1965 Rivi full length console (?) with the tach.. I think it'll work. I am not sure if that is the correct year/ model...
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    Default Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gd2227 View Post
    Eddie- no. You can try and find a 1965 Rivi full length console (?) with the tach.. I think it'll work. I am not sure if that is the correct year/ model...
    The older style tach guts will fit in a 68-72 four speed consolette, but not without modifcations. There is a couple of indents in the tach cup that do not line up and will have to be drilled. Drilling into the edge of the unreplaceable plastic tach face, I did not have the guts, sold the tach.

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    Default Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    I used a tach that came in the free-standing "pod" used in a Riv or earlier Skylark? You're right, it didn't go right into the consolette, but with a dremel (not a drill) I was able to grind notches into the edge of the lens and tach housing so it would fit. Came out great and you'd never know.

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    SkylarkRoost- Here is the bezel. It is difficult to photograph, but I think it's in very good condition.
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    Default Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    There is no Tach in a 1965 Riviera console
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    Default Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    does anyone know if a 64 skylark that has a 455 in it will accept the cluth linkage setup from a 70 gs 455?

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    Thumbs up Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    I won a assortment on rods on ebay for 56 bucks... and ....and it had a set of 69 rods in it

    so now I have a 69 set and a 70 to 72 set..... I still don't know if the 70 -72 back drive is correct I'll find out when I install it

    or if someone has a pic of a 69 backdrive :brow:

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    69 GS 400 stage1,4 speed,3.64 posi
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    68 Olds Ramrod 350 4 speed, 3.91 antispin
    73 Cutlass S W-31 350,TH 400, 3.73 antispin

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    Question Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    also I have the 70 -72 back drive

    and now this comes up on ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...4665066&rd=1,1

    so which is it





    I know the triangle shaped piece won't work it hits the 1-2 rod

    the swing arm and stud are different from what I have...

    the link rod look similar to the one that came with my 69

    it says repo so someone made it....

    is the seller anyone on the board.......

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    69 GS 400 stage1,4 speed,3.64 posi
    72 Skylark w/70 455 stg.1,BB trans,3.64 posi
    72 Riviera w/factory sunroof, 3.42 posi
    68 Olds Ramrod 350 4 speed, 3.91 antispin
    73 Cutlass S W-31 350,TH 400, 3.73 antispin

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    Photo 1968 4 speed shifter linkage
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    Photo 1969 4 speed shifter linkage.
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    Photo 1970-72 4 speed shifter linkage.
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    Unhappy Re: Frequently asked questions about 4 speed parts..PLEASE ADD TO THIS!!

    well that's just wonderful the 69 GS backdrive is the same set that is used for a 69 Cutlass /442 and....the Olds guys can even find them

    thanks a bunch JDB for the PIX.....
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    69 GS 400 stage1,4 speed,3.64 posi
    72 Skylark w/70 455 stg.1,BB trans,3.64 posi
    72 Riviera w/factory sunroof, 3.42 posi
    68 Olds Ramrod 350 4 speed, 3.91 antispin
    73 Cutlass S W-31 350,TH 400, 3.73 antispin

 

 
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