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    Default Flynbuicks 70 GSX STG 1 4spd in pictures

    Hi guys,

    My time is a bit limited tonight by other demands, but I do have the pictures available now of Jim's X. I will try and post a few new ones each day here.

    Thx.

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    As we go thru, I will point out a few things..

    We were lucky to have the original grill that this 49K mile car came with, and a few things are important to note:

    1. Molded in Gray Plastic
    2. The top of the grill is actually not painted argent silver. It's just the natural gray plastic.

    We did have to refinish the Argent Silver, but the black paint on the center bar, as well as on the dark gray on the eggshells was painted by the boys in Flint, nearly 37 years ago.

    It was an amazingly well preserved piece.
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    Default Looking forward to the pics!

    Hi Jim, I am sure I speak for many regulars on here when I saw we're all looking forward to seeing the pictures as they get posted. Thanks for taking the time! And nice pics so far!
    Ian Murray
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    Evident here is the original GSX headlight bezel (refinished of course) the T-3 reproduction headlamps, and a look at paint finish, and the front of the stripes.

    Keep in mind this car is painted in Glasurite Basecoat/Clearcoat. With the proper amount of after paint sanding and buffing work, it's difficult to determine that it is not painted in lacquer.

    Nearly as much time was spent finishing the paint, and striping this car, as was spent straightening and prepping, and painting it Saturn Yellow.

    We had the BASF/Glasurite lab in Germany actually formulate the color, based on an original GSX panel, to match the paint as accurately as possible.

    For those of you with a Yellow X who wish to use this paint, I would gladly send you a copy of the forumla. While the Glasurite clear/hardener and basecoat reducers are aproximately 1/3 more expensive than the top line products of other manufacturers, the actual yellow was fairly competative at $450 a gallon. It took 1 gallon of high hiding white as the ground coat, and 2 complete gallons of Saturn Yellow to paint this car. Coverage is excellent with 4 coats, and those of you who have painted a yellow car can attest that since it is translucent, this can be an issue. Glasurite base is only reduced 50%, vs the 100% reduction of most other bases. This certainly helps the coverage issue.

    If your considering using this paint in your restoration, be advised that it is absolutely critical to use the Glasurite clearcoat, as it has a bit of a yellow tint to it, caused by the components that make up the UV protection package of the clear. The base was forumlated with this in mind, so the use of another clear may result in too light a yellow.
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    nice car! the '70 QQ stage1 GSX has always been my dream car.( anyone wanna give one to me?? )
    I have always wondered what it costs to restore one to concours condition??
    and do they also try to reproduce the color code stripes on the vacuum hoses?

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    A few things here:

    Correct PN and date coded Alternator, restored by Ken Bruno who does a fantastic job. Phosphate adjuster bracket. The orginal fan shroud, cowl top and hose hook are in place and in perfect condition.

    The scoop foam seals are another interesting story. Unlike later model GM foams, these are the same vintage as the car.. I call them "old new old stock". While later model foams came packed in a smaller box, these actually came in about a 6x6 box, and still had the center part of the foam in them. They were actually just die cut, and them placed in the box. That center piece held the shape of the foam seal perfectly, and they are just sitting on this air cleaner, not glued down.

    As you all know, finding GM 455 foam seals these days is difficult, finding a set of these with the foam still in the middle, that someone will actually sell you, is virtually impossible. They don't call Jim the "Parts Ferret" for nothing..

    Definately as authentic as you can get.

    That's all for tonight, as I have some other business to attend to. We will pick this up Friday night again..
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    [QUOTE=QUIK82REGALI have always wondered what it costs to restore one to concours condition??
    ?[/QUOTE]


    Depends on what you mean by concours. Not all concours cars are equal or restored to the same level. You may not know, as I did not until I really got into it, that correct part numbers like for carbs and date codes are not judged in the Buick concours class under the current rules. There was talk by Brad and Duane of creating what I thnk they called a platinum class that would. For these two cars we went with what I would anticipate the platinum standard would be like correct hoses, gm original belts, date coded water pumps, voltage regs, alternators, glass, no pits on the frame and axle housing, correct plated, not painted hardware, etc. So if you want that level of resto it takes more time and funds to find the parts and more labor and funds to put such a car together. however. even though you do your best there will always be room for improvements and adjustments no mattter how hard you try.


    Also , any restorer will tell you that the condition of the car you have to start with has tremendous impact on the amount of labor it takes to get it to the end point you wish to attain. I think the most underrated cost driver is the cost and scarcity of quality Buick parts and the time and effort it takes to locate and acquire them. If a restorer has to do the parts search for you, it is going to be a significant cost driver for the project.
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    I didn't know that, thanks Jim,and enjoy your car!!

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    JW typed/wrote: My time is a bit limited tonight by other demands
    Hmmmmmmmmm, I think JW got a new girlfriend or has a super-hot date tonight! Congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GStage1
    Hmmmmmmmmm, I think JW got a new girlfriend or has a super-hot date tonight! Congrats!

    Either that or he has to take BudDog out for another one of his (BudDog's) hour long peeeeeeeeeee's...

    Nice pictures, thanks for posting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GStage1
    Hmmmmmmmmm, I think JW got a new girlfriend or has a super-hot date tonight! Congrats!





    Don't confuse my life with your hula girl chasing antics there Sunshine boy..

    Just sittin' here doing resto estimates..


    And bud-dog is passed out on the sofa.
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    Jim L. Beautiful Car!

    Jim W. Fantastic Work!

    Can't wait to see more Pics! ! ! !


    By the way, great car for a company mascot! ! !
    .


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    Very nice Car can't wait to see it Jim. I'm sure you are going to take it to BG. If every thing goes right maybe I will have mine there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnseenGSX
    If every thing goes right maybe I will have mine there as well.
    If you do so you'll need to change your user name !


    That is going to be a very nice GSX , always interesting to watch . Congrats to both of Jims
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    Default Keep The Pictures Coming....

    Congrats to both of you......What an awesome piece of history that you guys just restored.
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    The foam on original ram air seals should be yellow. Those are repos.
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    Nice job trishield
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    Everyone almost uses repro hood foams. Not many options any more. There are some good ones out there now with nice corners. Just got some just color is not quite right but best available. By NOS and just crush them with the hood anyway. Awesome looking car by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68 Skylark cust
    If you do so you'll need to change your user name !


    That is going to be a very nice GSX , always interesting to watch . Congrats to both of Jims
    I just don't know what I will use but in time it will come to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy
    The foam on original ram air seals should be yellow. Those are repos.
    They are NOS original GM as JW states. The foam changes color as they are exposed to the atmosphere/light over time. They do not start out the yellow color as you think. One side of the pair was already exposed, has the color and the other was not. The foams centers were stored in these so the centers were also protected from the transformation. So the pic you see are the short GS 455 NOS ...13 foam seals turned up to the unexposed side. This side too will turn darker and the color will eventually go to what you are used to seeing. If you will notice in the pics, around the edges during storage all those years where it did get more exposure relatively speaking, the yellow color is already beginning to appear.
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    Default Let's get underneath..

    Note the finish of the fasteners, surface finish and color of the frame and suspension components.

    While it is certain that some of the cars had the gearbox and suspension components painted black, (I have a 50K mile 70 GS 455 car in the shop that does show evidence of this) this particular 49K mile car, showed no evidence of paint in these area's, after very careful inspection, so we recreated it just as it was, on this particular car.
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    RF suspension
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    Copper plated steel cotter pins, installed as per Assembly manual spec.

    Thanks go to Larry DiStefano for custom plating the pins for us..
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    A similar shot, showing upper suspension detail
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