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    Default Re: Fastest boats down the track..

    The fastest time in a mag article I see for the SG Electra says 11.7. Search the Board under "Scotty and Electra".
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    Default Re: Fastest boats down the track..

    so went to Sacramento Raceway last wednesday... actually did much better than i thought.. temperature in the mid 80's at about 200ft elevation

    at about 5,000 lbs including; spare and some other crap in the trunk, FULL tank of gas, 160lbs of ME (so lets say 5,200 lbs.. i've never weighed it, i need to )

    3.07 open diff, Telesco Roller Rockers, a TERRIBLE tune (tuned for 6,500ft elevation ) and nothing to tune with, i.e. jets, metering rods, etc... stock RESTRICTIVE exhaust, muffler's removed

    I only got to run about 4 times.... some good tire spin on street tires my best run was 15.70 @ 86.197mph with a .289 reaction time and terrible 2.316 60ft

    not bad, I wasn't expecting any faster than mid 16's.. now I have a baseline to work from

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    Default Re: Fastest boats down the track..

    Was this with the Riv?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EEE View Post
    I can't really fit the 1/8 times in there, but it sure looks like a very nice improvement!!! We're eager beavers to see what happens once it's tuned and taken down the quarter.. For the porting, did you use an air or electrical die grinder?
    Thanks, it's a blast to drive (not that the 350 wasn't fun). I used an air-powered die grinder and a carbide burr for most of the head work, then the "Standard Abrasives Kit" to polish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87GN@Tahoe View Post
    ... and terrible 2.316 60ft...
    Hey, looking at the chart above, it looks like any 60' time under 2.0 is going to take deep rear gears and a posi, so I wouldn't feel bad at all about 2.3 - in the world of Buick-sized cars, that ain't bad at all!
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    '62 Ranchero w/ '68 200 Six and Column-shift 3-speed. Cruuuuuise-mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EEE View Post
    Was this with the Riv?
    yep that was the '64 rivi

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    Thanks for the update EEE. Grandville455, your car runs fine. Just curious about gearing, engine, converter, and driveability. I do some tinkering with Pontiac motors, and really like them. I just did a '70 Pontiac 455 with S/P 400 ito a 79 Trans Am for someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quicksabre View Post
    Thanks for the update EEE. Grandville455, your car runs fine. Just curious about gearing, engine, converter, and driveability. I do some tinkering with Pontiac motors, and really like them. I just did a '70 Pontiac 455 with S/P 400 ito a 79 Trans Am for someone.
    Quicksabre, I noticed that lots of your cars have Switch-Pitch tranny's...where are you getting them from, and who (if anybody) is converting or rebuilding them?

    You see, I've got this TH-400 in my garage, and know where a couple of '67 Electra's are sitting with S-P tranny's in them...
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    '62 Ranchero w/ '68 200 Six and Column-shift 3-speed. Cruuuuuise-mobile.

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    EEE,
    Thank you for putting together this chart. I would like to add my 60' time of 2.10. Also, that was with regular street radials, not drag radials. My 73 Riv weighs 5060lbs with driver, (200lbs). I would like to see the weight of the other cars in the chart. Thanks!
    Clark Lumsden
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    James,
    Switch pitch is unbeatable in these big cars. I think it is a waste for anything with a decent gear that weighs under 3500, but most of us running the heavy fullsizes don't have enough gear, and carry alot of weight. There is a certain horsepower level that it becomes unreliable at though. I'm not at that point, even though I've fried quite a few of these converters until I got rid of all the thrust washers altogether. All of my switch pitch trannys started out as the easy to come by 71-76 big car trans. Except for not being switch pitch, I like most of the internals in those better. Plus, the case is stronger. Then I go to the local junkyard and pull the switch pitch parts from a 65-67 trans to convert over the later trans. You get the stronger intermediate one way clutch by changing over the direct drum also. Sometimes I'll steal the intermediate clutch piston too. One 76 case that I used one time actually did not have the switch pitch passage drilled, so I just grabbed a hand drill with 1/4" bit and drilled it myself.
    As for the Pontiac just finished, that had to be done on a tight schedule. So I bought a ready to go S/P 400 from PAE.

    As for the weight of my cars, with me in it(negligible), and 1/3 tank of fuel, the 76 2dr weighs 4803. The 4dr with all of it's electric windows and seats, A/C, and most of a tank of fuel weighed like 5150. I have no idea on the 67 Riv.
    David Powell
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    Default Re: Fastest boats down the track..

    Good info, thanks! One question though...
    Quote Originally Posted by quicksabre View Post
    ... I've fried quite a few of these converters until I got rid of all the thrust washers altogether....
    Which thrust washers did you get rid of?
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    '62 Ranchero w/ '68 200 Six and Column-shift 3-speed. Cruuuuuise-mobile.

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    No more big Buicks that have been down the track We're still waiting for some figure from Nick White, anyone else who knows of someone?
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    He he he...........dig these timeslips! Rare is the time when my cars do better than I think possible. This is my 69 Wildcat with the stock 430. I added an HEI with my recurve (all mechanical), a 71 800 Qjet with #73 primaries as the only real non stock mods. Stock available mods include a 307 posi and dual exhaust.

    The car was laying down real consistent 15.05-15.06s. I lit the red light twice barely at 498 and 496, but after cutting a 512 and 520, I was getting greedy!
    I spun twice for some 15.20s, but those things happen. I was 2.2 on the 60 all night.
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    Then, I got the tailwind I was praying for!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by quicksabre View Post
    Thanks for the update EEE. Grandville455, your car runs fine. Just curious about gearing, engine, converter, and driveability. I do some tinkering with Pontiac motors, and really like them. I just did a '70 Pontiac 455 with S/P 400 ito a 79 Trans Am for someone.
    Hi...My current gearing is 3.42 from a 71 riv, engine is a 455 .040 over with stock rods beams polished, and good arp bolts with big ends resized bottom end is 2 bolt studded, camshaft is a bullet hyd flat 231 231 on a 108 lsa installed at 104 with .556 lifts using my h.s 1.72 roller rockers lifters are rhoads, giving me awesome streetabilty and idles at 650 in drive! stock 69 cast iron intake with a 840 q -jet.. trans is a turbo 400 with a couple of the holes drilled a little for a firm shift.. convertor is a continental tight 10" 3200 stall.. it drives like a stock one till you nail it! very tight!! car gets around 14 mpg .. anything else just ask, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floydsbuick View Post
    Then, I got the tailwind I was praying for!!!!!!!
    Good Lord!! That's haulin', dude! Way to go!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floydsbuick View Post
    Then, I got the tailwind I was praying for!!!!!!!
    Most impressive!!! Sounds like you have a very healthy engine in there. Are you running stock exhaust manifolds too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EEE View Post
    Most impressive!!! Sounds like you have a very healthy engine in there. Are you running stock exhaust manifolds too?
    Yep. Gotta love them BBBs!
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    Nice work Dan! I really dig the dual antennas...that was a mod in consideration for my custom 'cat There are no antennas on it now, the NOS front fender had none...hate to put holes in nice painted metal
    Deceptively Proficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floydsbuick View Post
    Yep. Gotta love them BBBs!
    Well, I love your BBB more than mine .. I've got to figure out where the missing link in making power is for my car. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GranSportSedan View Post
    There is a fellow here in Billings named Bob Reynolds who races a 71 Boat tail Riv. I have personally witnessed this car run a 10.50 but dont recall the mph. it's a stage 2 headed 455. Bob

    If you could dig up some more info on a 10.5 second Riv, that would be real cool. I guess I should add it with the info provided so far.
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    Ted,

    Glad you like it. The twin Antennas have been well received. Its easy to cut a hole in my primered sheetmetal...but I can see were you might hesitate. O well...Wildcats or cool either way.

    Kimson,

    Your list is half the reason I raced that car. I really wasn't gonna. Good work on the list, I'm happy to be on it.
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    I put this up at the buickcenturion.com website, but I thought it might be fun for someone to see here too. It's lists and graphs of all of my runs.

    http://lucidroom.com/racetimes.html

    and here are some videos from last Saturday when I took the boat to California Speedway.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UB_KhxuWkA0
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VZfiiCufxxE
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=00DPv_3TuTs
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    Forgot to add, "MY DESIGN ADJUSTABLE ROLLER TIP ROCKER ARMS". Please add to my times post.

    A BIG THANKS!!!!!!!!
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    I was hoping Dan would run that flaming Wildcat. That's a pretty cool car. I'm thinking they are a bit lighter than the early 70s boats, though, right? Still a boat, of course, but these early 70s cars are BIG. 14s with the mostly stock Wildcat is pretty impressive, though, and you don't see flames on big Buicks nearly enough.

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