As I was putting my tranny in the other day I remembered that it didn't have any fluid in it. It's a 1970 Muncie M20 What is the best stuff to put in it? Do I have to drop it or can I use the drain plug to fill it? How much do I put in?
As I was putting my tranny in the other day I remembered that it didn't have any fluid in it. It's a 1970 Muncie M20 What is the best stuff to put in it? Do I have to drop it or can I use the drain plug to fill it? How much do I put in?
Robert Lewis
1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan
1959 Pontiac Starchief 4 Door Hard top
1976 W200 Dodge Power Wagon 383/727 4x4
http://www.pontiac-59.com/
This is an "it depends" situation. Early Muncies only have a fill plug, so you have to find a way to evacuate the old fluid if you want to replace it. You ten fill from the same plug until the fluid is level with the bottom of the plug hole. If you're lucky and have a later trans, it will have both a fill and drain plug making life easier.
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80W-90 lube is popular, you'll need around 1.5 quarts.
Devon
Fuel & Brake Systems Engineer
1967 Wildcat, 4575 lbs. 10.8:1 462 on pump gas, Gessler Level 3 TA SE aluminum heads
0.602"/0.622" lift, 260°/273° @ 0.050", 108° LS solid cam. TA SP1 intake, 1000 cfm BG Silver Claw
Custom stainless equal length headers & exhaust w/Borlas. Variable Pitch TH400 full manual, 3200/1200 stall
You need a GL-4 lubricant.
I use Amsoil Severe Gear 75w-90 sythetic in my M21/
It shifts like butter......![]()
There is no fluid in it right now. It was drained out when the guy shipped it to me. I'll fill her up then. I'll look into Amsoil.
Robert Lewis
1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan
1959 Pontiac Starchief 4 Door Hard top
1976 W200 Dodge Power Wagon 383/727 4x4
http://www.pontiac-59.com/
Fuel & Brake Systems Engineer
1967 Wildcat, 4575 lbs. 10.8:1 462 on pump gas, Gessler Level 3 TA SE aluminum heads
0.602"/0.622" lift, 260°/273° @ 0.050", 108° LS solid cam. TA SP1 intake, 1000 cfm BG Silver Claw
Custom stainless equal length headers & exhaust w/Borlas. Variable Pitch TH400 full manual, 3200/1200 stall
I suggest staying away from synthetics. I tried it twice and broke the trannys within a very short time. Went back to standard grade oils and have had no problems since.
If you are going to use the trans in a high RPM motor I would use a gear oil as close to 75 wt as possible , but as an every day driver the 90wt would be fine .
Mike Williamson
71 GSX Stage1
67 GS 400
BPG #1996
I don't plan on reving this thing over 6000. It's not a daily driver either. Just a cruiser street car. It'll have some balls though.
Robert Lewis
1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan
1959 Pontiac Starchief 4 Door Hard top
1976 W200 Dodge Power Wagon 383/727 4x4
http://www.pontiac-59.com/
Robert if you can find the 75-90 gear oil you should be fine . good Luck .
Mike Williamson
71 GSX Stage1
67 GS 400
BPG #1996
The GL-4 requirement is important. It protects the brass parts in the tranny.
The GL-5 has the additives that are hard on the brass parts.
Devon
Fuel & Brake Systems Engineer
1967 Wildcat, 4575 lbs. 10.8:1 462 on pump gas, Gessler Level 3 TA SE aluminum heads
0.602"/0.622" lift, 260°/273° @ 0.050", 108° LS solid cam. TA SP1 intake, 1000 cfm BG Silver Claw
Custom stainless equal length headers & exhaust w/Borlas. Variable Pitch TH400 full manual, 3200/1200 stall
I put valvoline 80-90 in it. I got maybe 1.25 quarts in it. It's right below the fill plug. I guess that's as much as it takes? I guess there could have been a little left in it when it was previously drained.
Robert Lewis
1959 Buick Electra 4 Door Sedan
1959 Pontiac Starchief 4 Door Hard top
1976 W200 Dodge Power Wagon 383/727 4x4
http://www.pontiac-59.com/
Sounds like you're good to go.
Devon
Fuel & Brake Systems Engineer
1967 Wildcat, 4575 lbs. 10.8:1 462 on pump gas, Gessler Level 3 TA SE aluminum heads
0.602"/0.622" lift, 260°/273° @ 0.050", 108° LS solid cam. TA SP1 intake, 1000 cfm BG Silver Claw
Custom stainless equal length headers & exhaust w/Borlas. Variable Pitch TH400 full manual, 3200/1200 stall