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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by 71skylark3504v View Post
    The 300-340 port arrangement might be a little more difficult to build a good performing sheet metal intake, but if anyone can do it, Mark can!
    About those sheet metal intake manifolds. Price range? Quote per drawing? What's the romance with the four barrel? With 215-340 port layouts ,it will be much easier to get equal runner lengths and fuel distribution with TWO carbs. Just pick :2 bbls/4bbls/Webbers based on flow required and build application. I suspect less sensitive to overlap? I suspect more equal runner velocities? This used to be pretty popular with Edelbrock, Offy, etc. until the 4 bbl. took over. How say ye? roverman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverman View Post
    About those sheet metal intake manifolds. Price range? Quote per drawing? What's the romance with the four barrel? With 215-340 port layouts ,it will be much easier to get equal runner lengths and fuel distribution with TWO carbs. Just pick :2 bbls/4bbls/Webbers based on flow required and build application. I suspect less sensitive to overlap? I suspect more equal runner velocities? This used to be pretty popular with Edelbrock, Offy, etc. until the 4 bbl. took over. How say ye? roverman.
    Call Mark up, and see what he thinks.... I may be able to bring him a 215 block and heads for mockup.
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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Well not to belabor the obvious, the quickest and easiest solution, though certainly not the least expensive is an IR intake. Those that have been built for the 215 and such are independent one side from the other and so will bolt right up to the 300 or 340. They would also typically be of a larger bore size, having been developed for racing applications. You'd need a cover for the lifter valley of course.

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    any updates mike?

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by 87GN@Tahoe View Post
    any updates mike?
    Havent talked to dad about it in a while, I know its still rolling along though.
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

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    Looks like your patternmaker is a real artist... what is is name and contact info, if I may ask?

    Thanks,

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Hey Mike, if it is not too late, could I suggest adding a SBC valve cover pattern to the new heads. Many Rover guys are using SBC valve covers with an adapter plate bolted to the heads. The aftermarket supply of Buick 215 aluminum valve covers sucks and the Chevy covers are SO close.

    This will help guys running roller rockers too, as tall SBC covers already exist (and are cheap). Otherwise we will have to custom fab covers or use the adapter plates (only availble overseas).

    Just a thought........

    Brian

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbound View Post
    Hey Mike, if it is not too late, could I suggest adding a SBC valve cover pattern to the new heads. Many Rover guys are using SBC valve covers with an adapter plate bolted to the heads. The aftermarket supply of Buick 215 aluminum valve covers sucks and the Chevy covers are SO close.

    This will help guys running roller rockers too, as tall SBC covers already exist (and are cheap). Otherwise we will have to custom fab covers or use the adapter plates (only availble overseas).

    Just a thought........

    Brian
    But then they could not sell you expensive TA valvecovers.....
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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbound View Post
    Hey Mike, if it is not too late, could I suggest adding a SBC valve cover pattern to the new heads. Many Rover guys are using SBC valve covers with an adapter plate bolted to the heads. The aftermarket supply of Buick 215 aluminum valve covers sucks and the Chevy covers are SO close.

    This will help guys running roller rockers too, as tall SBC covers already exist (and are cheap). Otherwise we will have to custom fab covers or use the adapter plates (only availble overseas).

    Just a thought........

    Brian
    What keeps you from drilling new bolt holes in SBC covers? Personally I don't like them. I had to get my boat SBC valve covers ridiculously tight before they would stop leaking, and I'm talking about, drip, drip, drip, not a seeping problem.
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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Rover aluminum covers work fine.
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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by sean Buick 76 View Post
    But then they could not sell you expensive TA valvecovers.....
    Im not sure what your talking about, Im having a hard time finding Cast Aluminum, not stamped steel, Chevy valve covers for much less than ours, not to mention that they have 12x as many made as we do so their cost surely is much less than ours. In some cases they're even more than ours.
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    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    There are only 2 known sources for 215 valve covers. Offy's and O'brien Truckers. Offy's have the weird "canted" style that I personally do not care for, and O'brien's covers are $$$ and have no provisions for breathers or filler caps (more $$$ for machining)

    The Rover covers are not the most attractive choice IMO, but can be had cheap off Ebay.

    Now sbc valve covers can be had at any speed shop in North America, in whatever style you could ever dream of. Finned, billet, chromed steel, powder coated, etc........

    I'm sensing some attitude from the 350 crowd for getting the Rover stuff produced before your 350 parts. It's just a smart marketing decision from T/A....Rover/215 = worldwide demand, 350 = North Amercan demand only. Do the math....


    So, Mike....is it too late?

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbound View Post
    So, Mike....is it too late?

    Brian
    Talked to him and he said he'll think about/look into it, that it sounds like a good idea.

    Another update: The water jacket is pretty much done, dad has pictures somewhere that I'll put up when I get.
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbound View Post
    There are only 2 known sources for 215 valve covers. Offy's and O'brien Truckers. Offy's have the weird "canted" style that I personally do not care for, and O'brien's covers are $$$ and have no provisions for breathers or filler caps (more $$$ for machining)

    The Rover covers are not the most attractive choice IMO, but can be had cheap off Ebay.

    Now sbc valve covers can be had at any speed shop in North America, in whatever style you could ever dream of. Finned, billet, chromed steel, powder coated, etc........

    I'm sensing some attitude from the 350 crowd for getting the Rover stuff produced before your 350 parts. It's just a smart marketing decision from T/A....Rover/215 = worldwide demand, 350 = North Amercan demand only. Do the math....


    So, Mike....is it too late?

    Brian
    There are others:



    Also:

    http://www.drysump.com/valvcvr6.htm

    http://www.popbrowns.co.uk/products2.html



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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Alrighty everyone, everything is moving along nicely. We stopped by and had a quick discussion and are having a few little changes made before the pattern goes to the foundry in about 2 weeks if all goes well











    Here's the water jacket















    Now with the Intake and exhaust runners in place

















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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    all so pretty
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    mike / TA : any rough guesstimate on 350 s/p intake $$ ? thanks . del
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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Saw this link on another board:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-V8-RACIN...3A1%7C294%3A50

    Cool huh....

    Greg

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    ANY UPDATES?

    ALSO, what is the feasibility of making these heads work on a Buick 350, IF I made a custom intake, and had a custom cam made?


    If not so feasible, WHY? What are the factors that would cause this freight train in it's tracks?

    I am just asking because I called the other day, and the receptionist just gave me a "NO they wont", without any explination... Please, elaborate

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87GN@Tahoe View Post
    ANY UPDATES?

    ALSO, what is the feasibility of making these heads work on a Buick 350, IF I made a custom intake, and had a custom cam made?


    If not so feasible, WHY? What are the factors that would cause this freight train in it's tracks?

    I am just asking because I called the other day, and the receptionist just gave me a "NO they wont", without any explination... Please, elaborate
    The pattern is at the foundry, waiting to hear back when the first prototype is done.

    Honestly I dont know enough to give you an answer, and from the sounds of it the lady you talked to was Lana so of course neither would she (sorry if she was rude when telling you).
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TABuickMike View Post
    The pattern is at the foundry, waiting to hear back when the first prototype is done.

    Honestly I dont know enough to give you an answer, and from the sounds of it the lady you talked to was Lana so of course neither would she (sorry if she was rude when telling you).
    she wasn't really rude.. it was the end of the day on *i think* a Friday.. So I think it was more of not having anyone with more knowledge to ask.


    That's great to hear about the progress... I imaging you guys are going to cut a few heads up to check for core shift, etc.... When that is all said and done, and they appear consistant, is there any possibility of posting pictures of the intake and exhaust port crosssections? That way the home porters out there will have an Idea of what they'll have to work with, rather than finding out the hard way.

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    There's a thread on here somewhere with an in-depth analysis of the differences between the 340 and 350 blocks. The gist of it is that the cam lobe centers aren't quite the same and the biggest variation is at the engine center, something like 3/8" as best I recall but it was enough that the lifters wouldn't be happy with the blank out of the other engine. The reason this was done was to get the pushrods around the intake passages. Now it's just possible that you could cut the pushrod holes enough to get clearance and run the rod at a slight angle, but it might put you really close to breaking through. Still if it was only a couple places on each head it might be worth a little build up.

    Personally I think one of you 350 guys should give it a go, and Mike Jr would be the prime candidate. But hey, that's just my opinion.

    Jim B

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    Check out the last few posts.

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    Default Re: What's the Deal with the buick/Rover head for TA Performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Blackwood View Post
    There's a thread on here somewhere with an in-depth analysis of the differences between the 340 and 350 blocks. The gist of it is that the cam lobe centers aren't quite the same and the biggest variation is at the engine center, something like 3/8" as best I recall but it was enough that the lifters wouldn't be happy with the blank out of the other engine. The reason this was done was to get the pushrods around the intake passages. Now it's just possible that you could cut the pushrod holes enough to get clearance and run the rod at a slight angle, but it might put you really close to breaking through. Still if it was only a couple places on each head it might be worth a little build up.

    Personally I think one of you 350 guys should give it a go, and Mike Jr would be the prime candidate. But hey, that's just my opinion.

    Jim B

    http://www.v8buick.com/newreply.php?...te=1&p=1249434

    Check out the last few posts.
    Im sure we'll play around with it, it just appears now that we're going to put my 350 into a '68 Skylark that we have and give it to my brother and then build a short block 455 that we have sitting next door for me instead lol. But id like to try the Rover head on a 350 thing.
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

    Michael Tomaszewski Jr.
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    My Car: 1970 Skylark 350-4


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    Quote Originally Posted by 87GN@Tahoe View Post
    When that is all said and done, and they appear consistant, is there any possibility of posting pictures of the intake and exhaust port crosssections? That way the home porters out there will have an Idea of what they'll have to work with, rather than finding out the hard way.
    That I don't know, its up to dad if he wants to eat a set of heads to cut them in half just to see everything when we have the patters and water jackets etc. to look at and we know how thick everything is. Maybe, but I cant tell ya haha.
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

    Michael Tomaszewski Jr.
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    My Car: 1970 Skylark 350-4


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    T-Minus 3-4 days and counting...
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    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

    Michael Tomaszewski Jr.
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